noirish Los Angeles

[ethereal_reality]

"1915, two young men from the Mendelson family of LA stand in front of the LAFD Engine Co. #3 Hill St, Los Angeles"


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[Pdxrailtransit]

Union Pacific Railroad Photo, image found on https://www.american-rails.com/challenger.html

Back in Streamliner days, and before, the UP offered connecting bus service from their East Los Angeles station to Glendale, Anaheim, and Long Beach/San Pedro. Buses are the GM PD4101.

More information and photos can be found on my TrainWatchersJournal blog:
https://trainwatchersjournal.blogspo...a-getaway.html

[ethereal_reality]

Thanks for sharing the reminiscences of Don Arturo Bandini with us odinthor.

Originally Posted by odinthor

Gaily decorated and festooned
carretas, prancing horses, and splendid horsemen were a common enough
sight for us, but the Pastores--—Ah! that was something that occurred
but once a year during Navidad— Christmas time. Los Pastores— The
Shepherds— is a species of sacred drama, something like the Passion
Play [ . . . ] The last play given by the pastores in Los Angeles
City was on the Christmas eve of 1861. The place selected for the
occasion was the site on which now stands the present Pico House,
then a large courtyard pertaining to the Pico homestead.

From what I understand, Los Pastores was resurrected some years later:

"Just over 100 years ago(?), the Hidalgo Club, a Mexican mutual aid society,
revived La Pastorela for performances in several halls in the Plaza area."

"In 1883, the Los Angeles Herald reported that Los Pastores was so popular
that another performance was given in February at Turnverein Hall on Figueroa St." kcet


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sidenote:

"Boys under 12 years, - 25 cnt" Why just boys and not girls?


and in this recollection by Bandini (on the Los Pastores in 1861)

"Rancheros and townsmen patronized the numerous booths that had been set up for the occasion.
The air was filled with the cries of the vendors of tamales, enchiladas, tortillas, candy, and fruit,
as well as with the twanging of guitars, the shrieking of violins, and the voices of singers."

Only the rancheros and townsmen are mentioned. What about the women and children?

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[CityBoyDoug]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

Thanks for sharing the reminiscences of Don Arturo Bandini with us odinthor.

sidenote:

"Boys under 12 years, - 25 cnt" Why just boys and not girls?
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I get where you're coming from ER but.....

I assume its a long standing Latino cultural thing but in many places only the boys have to pay for entry....the girls are welcome and don't pay anything.
It appears that the older males have to pay 75 cnts.

This also is the norm in certain adult social situations....

[odinthor]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

Thanks for sharing the reminiscences of Don Arturo Bandini with us odinthor.

My pleasure! I have another yuletide one, with as I recall Angelenos coming to the Plaza church, the silver on the horses jingling, everyone's breath evident in the chilly air; but I couldn't lay my hand on it at the moment. Next year? I also have a very unpleasant Christmas event, showing that old L.A. could be very noir itself . . .

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

From what I understand, Los Pastores was resurrected some years later:

"Just over 100 years ago(?), the Hidalgo Club, a Mexican mutual aid society,
revived La Pastorela for performances in several halls in the Plaza area."

"In 1883, the Los Angeles Herald reported that Los Pastores was so popular
that another performance was given in February at Turnverein Hall on Figueroa St." kcet


____________________________________


sidenote:

"Boys under 12 years, - 25 cnt" Why just boys and not girls?

Guessing: Whereas young boys might be attending on their own, and not with the family, hence suitable for their own admission charge, young girls would only be present in a family group (and under this theory--grabbed out of the thin air for your pleasure and delectation--the admission charge is per family group).

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

and in this recollection by Bandini (on the Los Pastores in 1861)

"Rancheros and townsmen patronized the numerous booths that had been set up for the occasion.
The air was filled with the cries of the vendors of tamales, enchiladas, tortillas, candy, and fruit,
as well as with the twanging of guitars, the shrieking of violins, and the voices of singers."

Only the rancheros and townsmen are mentioned. What about the women and children?

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Same theory as above: The womenfolk were subsumed in the rancheros and townsmen: I think we're supposed to understand, with, say, ranchero, that ranchero = "self, family, and attendants of ranchero."

[CityBoyDoug]

Originally Posted by Pdxrailtransit

Union Pacific Railroad Photo, image found on https://www.american-rails.com/challenger.html

Back in Streamliner days, and before, the UP offered connecting bus service from their East Los Angeles station to Glendale, Anaheim, and Long Beach/San Pedro. Buses are the GM PD4101.

More information and photos can be found on my TrainWatchersJournal blog:
https://trainwatchersjournal.blogspo...a-getaway.html

Beautiful and somewhat modified model of the PD 4101


https://i.pinimg.com/564x/fc/6e/ea/f...to-vintage.jpg

[Beaudry]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

"1915, two young men from the Mendelson family of LA stand in front of the LAFD Engine Co. #3 Hill St, Los Angeles"


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KRIT?

Thanks for hipping me to this listing! Bidding for sure.


They're in front of the 1901 station at 217 S Hill St that was replaced by the larger 1924 station. Lots of photos (including the one above) about Station 3 here.

And yes, the KritMCCo was short lived; that's a rare car.

[3940dxer]

The 3 story building left of center resembles the Clifton's building in shape and size, though the the windows are different. Clifton's opened in 1932. The location seems about right. Could it possibly be???

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire

Morosco didn't take over the Burbank until 1899. I'm going to guess that the grandstand was built for La Fiesta...perhaps for the one coinciding with McKinley's May 1901 visit. Here's an image part of that parade, one with another grandstand. Caption reads: "May 9, 1901: Carriage carrying Pres. William McKinley turns north on Broadway at 6th Street during La Fiesta Parade." Bradford Hulse was at 212 W Sixth....



LAPL

[CityBoyDoug]

https://media.giphy.com/media/3GYeXZdOmRD8Y/giphy.gif

The link says this is Kim Novak. If that's Kim, I'll eat my hat. Anyone know where this was taken?
Hint....think bird.

Mystery photo....maybe.

[ethereal_reality]

I believe Bette is in the Cub Room at the Stork Club CBD.


'All About Eve' [1950]

[ethereal_reality]

Beaudry, there are two negatives for sale on ebay as well.


"Orig 1963 Los Angeles Bunker Hill House Photos and Negatives"


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[ethereal_reality]

two more negs. (same seller)

"Orig 1963 Los Angeles Bunker Hill Angel Flight demolition Photos and Negatives"


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I'm intrigued by this noirish looking watering hole.


detail

and the White Cross wagon.





neg. #2

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negs

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Goodnight all. see ya tomorrow

[HossC]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

"Orig 1963 Los Angeles Bunker Hill Angel Flight demolition Photos and Negatives"

I'm intrigued by this noirish looking watering hole.


detail

and the White Cross wagon.

The 1963 and 1964 CDs list the Hill St Cafe at 326 S Hill Street. By 1965 it's Downtown News, and then Leaders Imports in 1967 (White Cross Discount was at 324 throughout). The discount record store in the 1966 picture below seems to have missed being listed in the CDs.

Originally Posted by HossC

Detail of picture in Huntington Digital Library

[oldstuff]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

Beaudry, there are two negatives for sale on ebay as well.


"Orig 1963 Los Angeles Bunker Hill House Photos and Negatives"


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The house on the right is obviously "The Castle" at 325 S. Bunker Hill Avenue, built around 1888. At first I thought that the one on the left was "The Salt Box" the other iconic structure which was supposed to be moved from Bunker Hill, but was burned before it could be moved, but it is not. The Castle did not have a chimney on the right side and the numbers of windows are wrong. I have not been able to find a photo of which house this is (or was). That they are gone is a tragedy.

[BillinGlendaleCA]

Originally Posted by 3940dxer

The 3 story building left of center resembles the Clifton's building in shape and size, though the the windows are different. Clifton's opened in 1932. The location seems about right. Could it possibly be???

I saw this story about Open Space Preservation last night on the news and considering it's proximity to Lookout Mountain thought of your quest.

[oldstuff]

Originally Posted by oldstuff

The house on the right is obviously "The Castle" at 325 S. Bunker Hill Avenue, built around 1888. At first I thought that the one on the left was "The Salt Box" the other iconic structure which was supposed to be moved from Bunker Hill, but was burned before it could be moved, but it is not. The Castle did not have a chimney on the right side and the numbers of windows are wrong. I have not been able to find a photo of which house this is (or was). That they are gone is a tragedy.

Sorry, my stupid computer ate my login and deleted the next sentence.

I found the building which is on the left. It was painted by Leo Politi, photographed by William Reagh and also by someone else. It was located on the south side of Clay Street, to the right of the Brown Apartments.
There is another picture on Noirish LA on page 1965.

[HossC]

You mean this one, oldstuff?

Originally Posted by HossC

Here's a view from the opposite direction of Clay Street, but we still can't see much of the front. This is another 1955 Leonard Nadel image.


Getty Research Institute

Here's e_r's picture again.

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

"Orig 1963 Los Angeles Bunker Hill House Photos and Negatives"


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[ethereal_reality]

Yep, that's the same place. Thanks oldstuff and HossC. (also note the California Bell sign in both pics)



I just noticed the Metropolitan Water District Building, 3rd and Broadway, peaking over the roof.

(sometimes I miss the obvious)

[ethereal_reality]

"Orig 1960's Los Angeles Roseland Roof Hostess Building CA Street 35mm Five neg Lot"

#1

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as most of you know, the Roseland Roof bldg. still stands.
& if I remember correctly, the garage on the left edge of the photograph used to be a ballroom at one point in time.
I don't recall the name at the moment.



#2

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I haven't figured out this modern plaza/building.

did you notice how the photograph makes the Occidental Center look like it's in the midst of the other large buildings (it's actually farther south) right?




#3


total mystery to me.




#4


ditto (no idea)




#5


mystery.

here's a closer look at that building down the street.


detail #5

at first I thought it was a bank...but now I think it might be a garage.


All from ebay (sold together)

[CityBoyDoug]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

I just noticed the Metropolitan Water District Building, 3rd and Broadway, peaking over the roof.

my brain told me it was a chimney. (sometimes I miss the obvious)

Click below for gsv of building>>>>


https://www.google.com/maps/@34.0509...7i13312!8i6656