Metro Vancouver Transit Discussion

[Reecemartin]

Originally Posted by Sheba

You just accused me of being anti-LRT when I brought up on-ground rail separate from traffic, and here you are talking about LRT in their own lanes...

The variety of LRT that's been proposed here has been about LRT mixed in with traffic - which is prone to accidents. That's one reason why we're against it.

The King Streetcar is not separate from traffic and the Surrey LRT would be from literally every bit of information we have. And your assertion that it's prone to accidents kind of misses the point because buses are equally prone to accidents, the concern some have is that a crash will block tracks.

[Migrant_Coconut]

Originally Posted by Reecemartin

The King Streetcar is not separate from traffic and the Surrey LRT would be from literally every bit of information we have.

And yet there's still cross-traffic to deal with. Since tunnelling through Whalley continues to be a non-starter, then either Vancouver bans all left turns along KGB and 104, or we get the same kind of accidents as the rest of North America.

Originally Posted by Reecemartin

And your assertion that it's prone to accidents kind of misses the point because buses are equally prone to accidents, the concern some have is that a crash will block tracks.

Blocked tracks are only half the problem. Trains, even streetcars, brake slower than buses - meaning that even with a median, the 510 still gets collisions. Hence the need for grade separation (or at least a fence) along the busy parts of the ROW.

[Sheba]

Originally Posted by Reecemartin

The King Streetcar is not separate from traffic and the Surrey LRT would be from literally every bit of information we have. And your assertion that it's prone to accidents kind of misses the point because buses are equally prone to accidents, the concern some have is that a crash will block tracks.

Most of the images Surrey has of the LRT line look like this:


Surrey LRT

Originally Posted by Migrant_Coconut

And yet there's still cross-traffic to deal with. Since tunnelling through Whalley continues to be a non-starter, then either Vancouver bans all left turns along KGB and 104, or we get the same kind of accidents as the rest of North America.


Blocked tracks are only half the problem. Trains, even streetcars, brake slower than buses - meaning that even with a median, the 510 still gets collisions. Hence the need for grade separation (or at least a fence) along the busy parts of the ROW.

There hasn't been any talking of Surrey banning left turns - I think it's safe to say that drivers would revolt over that.

The largest barrier I've seen in any of the images has been a curb. It might keep cars that aren't determined to make a left off of the tracks but it's not going to do anything to stop pedestrians from cutting across.

[MIPS]

Just a random question unrelated to the current topic, but what is the large four-bolt concrete footing located at the corner by the traffic light and stairs at Nanaimo station?

I'm going from what I can find online but was it like one of those large red and white wayfinding columns that Stadium and Burrard used to have out front or was there something else that used to be there?


http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/ballsandy/SkyTrain/img_30737.jpg
Original photographer unknown

[ilikeredheads]

Originally Posted by Sheba

There hasn't been any talking of Surrey banning left turns - I think it's safe to say that drivers would revolt over that.

The largest barrier I've seen in any of the images has been a curb. It might keep cars that aren't determined to make a left off of the tracks but it's not going to do anything to stop pedestrians from cutting across.

let's reduce it to 1 lane to each direction with no left turn lanes. That's smart!!

[Sheba]

Do we have anything like this set up here?

Los Angeles subway work uncovers array of Ice Age fossils

As part of the crew digging a subway extension under the streets of Los Angeles, Ashley Leger always keeps her safety gear close by.

When her phone buzzes, she quickly dons a neon vest, hard hat and goggles before climbing deep down into a massive construction site beneath a boulevard east of downtown.

Earth-movers are diverted, and Leger gets on her hands and knees and gently brushes the dirt from a spot pointed out by a member of her team. Her heart beats faster because there's a chance she'll uncover what she calls "the big find."

Leger is a paleontologist who digs for fossils in the middle of a city rather than an open plain or desert. She works for a company contracted by Los Angeles transportation officials to keep paleontologists on hand as workers extend a subway line to the city's west side.

"They're making sure that they're recovering every single fossil that could possibly show up," Leger says of her team of monitors. "They call me anytime things are large and we need to lead an excavation."

...

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by Sheba

Do we have anything like this set up here?

I doubt it, although anything is possible.

LA still has active tar pits bubbling up, so it's no surprise down there.

[Migrant_Coconut]

Originally Posted by WarrenC12

LA still has active tar pits bubbling up, so it's no surprise down there.

^This. Whereas the Lower Mainland was formed several million years after the dinosaurs died out, and spent most of the remainder under ice. Gotta move to Vancouver Island or the Interior to find fossils.

[cganuelas1995]

They're getting more work done at the Richmond Brighouse busloop site.

[Xrayal]

I saw a Seabus while riding the Skytrian today.
IMG_1728 by mullux

[Sheba]

They're finally splitting the 106 into two routes at Edmonds Station, starting Mon Dec 18th.

[TransitJack]

Lucky Seabus sighting on the Fraser!!!Nice job

[Klazu]

Evergreen Extension in Coquitlam.

[jsbertram]

Originally Posted by Reecemartin

Mined stations aren't very common, yes the line will be bored however the stations will require ground level closures at intersections so they can be dug out, I'd possibly expect some closures at Broadway City Hall too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptRsgw6RisI

how a station was expanded while keeping street traffic (somewhat) flowing

thinking of how to keep broadway / main /kingsway interseactions flowing while the new subway station is built

... and comes off when the expanded oxford circus station is done:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ghWdnYtp2I&t=4s

[ClaytonA]

And to add a modern version in LA this summer;

http://thesource.metro.net/2017/08/31/17...ga-street-decking-what-you-need-to-know/

http://thesource.metro.net/2017/08/31/17...ga-street-decking-what-you-need-to-know/

All possible for Broadway, but it comes with a cost of course and closures that can be managed. For example on weekends.

... Now major construction activities are set to begin and 17 full weekend closures are needed to complete three phases of construction. Under Phase 1, pile installation will require a closure of Wilshire Boulevard between La Cienega Boulevard and San Vicente Boulevard during the weekends of September 8 and September 15. Starting the first weekend of October, the remainder of the weekend closures are required for decking of the street. After decking is completed, traffic can continue to use Wilshire Boulevard while excavation of the station continues below. ...

[Express691]

Originally Posted by Sheba

They're finally splitting the 106 into two routes at Edmonds Station, starting Mon Dec 18th.

...Part of
1) 2015 Transit service review
2) the rest of Winter service changes:

N35, 95 and 96 are taking the spotlight this time:

95/96 to introduce all-door boarding in January 2018.

N35 gets a sunday extension until around 5am (Monumental as far as 24-hr service is concerned).

http://buzzer.translink.ca/2017/12/the-december-2017-issue-of-the-buzzer-is-now-on-the-system/

On the service changes page, the changes from the buzzer are NOT yet posted. My guess is they want to gradually update the lage as their "bus route buzz" gets updated. (Which in My opinion, an act to purposely slow down the announcement of the new changes.) In past years, we usually know all the changes by this time of year.

[dandor31]

If you open the buzzer blog download you can see all the changes. Not many extra compared to what was listed in the post. I expect the Translink website will be updated tomorrow.

http://buzzer.translink.ca/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/2748-The-Buzzer-December-2017_prs.pdf

[Gordon]

There was supposed to be stop consolidations on on the downtown section of the 44 I wonder if Translink is now not doing that.

[Reecemartin]

Big news in Toronto today as the new Subway Extension Opened, I made a playlist of station walkthroughs enjoy: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLwoYcvp1EGSdVxtiEcbscTRkh0PUVpBW-

These stations are truly unlike anything in a Canadian transit system before and I seriously hope the M-Line takes some inspiration from here.

[Express691]

Originally Posted by Gordon

There was supposed to be stop consolidations on on the downtown section of the 44 I wonder if Translink is now not doing that.

As far as I know, the changes on the 44/258 are not going thru.