YVR Airport & Sea Island Developments Discussion

[SFUVancouver]

Originally Posted by Lancaster

It may seem surprising, but that has actually been there for about or over ten years now. Someone can correct me, but I think it was done in 2006-2007ish?

But yes, it's easily the nicest of the ground load gates at YVR. Wish they would do the same in the US departures area.

I'm genuinely surprised by that. Thanks for the info!

[Johnny Aussie]

Today is the first of the Qantas seasonal flights. QF75 from SYD due in in about 1h20m

Along with the new AC MEL nonstops started a week ago YVR-South Pacific has grown to 28 flights per week for the next couple of months.

[excel]

Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

Today is the first of the Qantas seasonal flights. QF75 from SYD due in in about 1h20m

Along with the new AC MEL nonstops started a week ago YVR-South Pacific has grown to 28 flights per week for the next couple of months.

Is the QF SYD flight still a 747-4?

[Johnny Aussie]

Originally Posted by excel

Is the QF SYD flight still a 747-4?

Yessiree Bob

As more carriers phase them out QF, LH and BA are the only pax airlines left flying 744s into YVR.

South Pacific breakdown:

AC SYD Daily 77L
AC BNE Daily 788
AC MEL 4/wk 789
NZ AKL Daily 772
QF SYD 3/wk 744

[trofirhen]

Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

Yessiree Bob

As more carriers phase them out QF, LH and BA are the only pax airlines left flying 744s into YVR.

South Pacific breakdown:

AC SYD Daily 77L
AC BNE Daily 788
AC MEL 4/wk 789
NZ AKL Daily 772
QF SYD 3/wk 744

Do you think Qantas might ever come back full time?

[CareerShow]

Originally Posted by zahav

Air Canada looks like it's removed 767 domestic flights from this summer's bookings. Up until a couple weeks ago, the 767 was scheduled on quite a few domestic legs (YVR-YYZ mainly), but has since been removed entirely and replaced by 321 aircraft. I know scheds aren't final yet, but seems like a notable thing, considering all the flights are the same, just the equipment is now 321 for each previous 767. But OAG and flight schedules still have the 767 listed (ex. AC182, 102, 184, and 166 are on OAG as 767, but on AC's booking site, each of these four flights is now 321.

I wondering if they are planning to move a bunch to Rouge?

This is really unfortunate. Now in the summertime widebody aircrafts on the route are down to 5 per day, from around 8 or 9 last year i believe. Even this winter (Dec 22 I looked) 8 of 14 flights are operated by widebodies. The 763 was also the most comfortable economy seat out there! Thats the last of the AC 763 flying thru YVR now.

[Johnny Aussie]

Originally Posted by CareerShow

This is really unfortunate. Now in the summertime widebody aircrafts on the route are down to 5 per day, from around 8 or 9 last year i believe. Even this winter (Dec 22 I looked) 8 of 14 flights are operated by widebodies. The 763 was also the most comfortable economy seat out there! Thats the last of the AC 763 flying thru YVR now.

Can't do much about it when the fleet type is being slowly phased out.
The 788s 789s 77Ws etc are better suited to international flying.

[Johnny Aussie]

Busy weekend for route launches....

Nanaimo and Comox both start tomorrow on WS Encore.

Friday has AC Express launching a new seasonal YVR-Yellowknife route.

Also on Friday, Flair Airlines, a new scheduled carrier for YVR, commences flights to YLW and YEG.

[trofirhen]

Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

Not at all. Just to show how big YVR international is becoming. More seats being pushed out in one hour on just one carrier.

Another reason to get those expansions built tout de suite!

Can the fact of an airport growing very quickly, as is YVR, and becoming a real connector hub, (which it still seems to have a little way to go to complete) .....
Attract other airlines to want to use the airport becuase of all these connections?
I think not only of E. Asia, but of Oceania, Mexico (still to grow) and Europe, (better than before, couyld use one more perhaps) ....
or not? Thank you.

[Lancaster]

Originally Posted by trofirhen

Can the fact of an airport growing very quickly, as is YVR, and becoming a real connector hub, (which it still seems to have a little way to go to complete) .....
Attract other airlines to want to use the airport becuase of all these connections?
I think not only of E. Asia, but of Oceania, Mexico (still to grow) and Europe, (better than before, couyld use one more perhaps) ....
or not? Thank you.

I could see Star Alliance carriers offering additional flights to connect with AC's domestic/US network. I would think however that other carriers mostly care about the Vancouver to (insert destination here) market only?

[Johnny Aussie]

Duplicate post whoops

[Johnny Aussie]

According to airlineroute.net KL continues to flip flop the equipment on YVR-AMS.

Now the route will be served with a 772 from 25 Mar - 28 Aug. Then it reverts back to the planned 789.

Slow news day with the 5 new route launches so thought I’d throw this tid bit in.

[spaceprobe]

Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

Busy weekend for route launches....

Nanaimo and Comox both start tomorrow on WS Encore.

Saturday has AC Express launching a new seasonal YVR-Yellowknife route.

Also on Saturday, Flair Airlines, a new scheduled carrier for YVR, commences flights to YLW and YEG.

Does AC currently run flights to yellowknife?

How many flights are there daily from YVR to whitehorse from all airlines?

[CareerShow]

http://business.financialpost.com/featur...tting-corners-on-safety-to-earn-business

What do people think of this article? Obviously the viewpoint may be a touch skewed, but point is that many flights in Canada and the USA are flown by these subsidiary carriers that apparently have inferior safety and maintenance procedures. Does anyone think this is the same case with Jazz Aviation, the main AC express provider out of YVR?

[trofirhen]

Originally Posted by CareerShow

http://business.financialpost.com/featur...tting-corners-on-safety-to-earn-business

What do people think of this article? Obviously the viewpoint may be a touch skewed, but point is that many flights in Canada and the USA are flown by these subsidiary carriers that apparently have inferior safety and maintenance procedures. Does anyone think this is the same case with Jazz Aviation, the main AC express provider out of YVR?

This is a clear and present danger, and seems to have an empirical cause. IMO there should be a full inquest, then any & all legal & techical steps necessary to conform to the rules ASAP.

[whatnext]

Originally Posted by CareerShow

http://business.financialpost.com/featur...tting-corners-on-safety-to-earn-business

What do people think of this article? Obviously the viewpoint may be a touch skewed, but point is that many flights in Canada and the USA are flown by these subsidiary carriers that apparently have inferior safety and maintenance procedures. Does anyone think this is the same case with Jazz Aviation, the main AC express provider out of YVR?

Blame Air Canada for that.

They had a network of regional carriers that they came to own outright in the 1990s (Air BC, Air Nova, Air Ontario). These were spun off into Jazz when AC went tits up in 2003. A nice way to earn some cash, but not content with that, AC decided to let Tier 3 carriers like Air Georgian and Skyregional compete with Jazz for flying. The classic race to the bottom.

[casper]

Originally Posted by CareerShow

http://business.financialpost.com/featur...tting-corners-on-safety-to-earn-business

What do people think of this article? Obviously the viewpoint may be a touch skewed, but point is that many flights in Canada and the USA are flown by these subsidiary carriers that apparently have inferior safety and maintenance procedures. Does anyone think this is the same case with Jazz Aviation, the main AC express provider out of YVR?

With these types of stories it is always hard to know if this is a single person who was fired by the airline and now its is evil in any which way. Perhaps there is nothing to it.

On the other hand there may be serious problems that this person is bringing to light.

The authorities should be investigating, however I would not pass judgment until after that.

In the case of Jazz it is a much bigger organisation. Generally speaking the bigger the company and more profitable the company the less likely they are to cut corners. Air Georgian operates 30 aircraft mostly owned by Air Canada. That parent company to Jazz also owns Voyageur Airlines, combined they have around 140 aircraft. Basically 5-6 times the size. They are in different leagues.

[LeftCoaster]

According to A.net Turkish and Canadian officials are meeting again to discuss adding slots to the bilateral for Western Canadian service. Apparently 3xPW is being offered up, we'll see if there's any truth to this, but I take it with a grain of salt.

[Johnny Aussie]

Originally Posted by LeftCoaster

According to A.net Turkish and Canadian officials are meeting again to discuss adding slots to the bilateral for Western Canadian service. Apparently 3xPW is being offered up, we'll see if there's any truth to this, but I take it with a grain of salt.

Is this the quote to which you are referring?

"The Canadian and Turkish CAA officials will meet in Canada in two weeks time and the bilateral will be amended to give 3 new slots to Turkish Airlines to serve Western Canada (YVR) so if Turkish will accept this proposal this will go forward and TK can launch IST YVR IST thrice weekly from April 1st, 2018;"


I like his choice words "will be amended...." I'd be curious if it should actually say "may be amended..."

In any event... seems like user ankaraflyjet either actually knows something or is just speculating. Who knows. And as for a 1st April start date, I'd say for an airline like Turkish, that would be a very short lead-in time.

Grain of salt also taken

[Johnny Aussie]

Saw on airliners.net on the weekly OAG update:

AC continues to build YVR trans border next summer.

That's getting pretty close to 40 daily next summer on AC. Total YVR-transborder as it stands now will be ~ 95 flights per day... if you include the scheduled Mexico flights (not including charters) YVR will have over 100 daily international flights just within North America.... how do like THEM apples?!

AC increasing SAN to 3 daily (YVR-California bumps to 17 daily on AC)
AC increasing DEN to 3 daily

Other changes

AS increasing SEA back to 6 daily (restoring one of the lost daily frequencies)
AA increasing DFW to 3 daily (normal summer bump)

DL cutting YVR-LAX (code share remains on the 3 daily Westjet flights) DL will still have 13 daily flights from YVR next summer.

Therefore YVR-LAX will be served by only 4 carriers again with 12 daily flights next summer.