[Halifax] Nova Centre | 65-58-58 m | 16-15-14 fl | Completed

[Jonovision]

Originally Posted by hoser111

If I'm not mistaken, Jono's 2nd pic reveals some anchoring hardware for signage on the upper floors on the Prince street side, just wrapped around from that BMO sign.

The BMO sign went up on both the East and North faces of the tower.

[Jonovision]

Pedestrian level lighting is turned on. The BMO branch is now open and part of the sidewalk on Sackville is now open as well.

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[Jonovision]

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[Keith P.]

The building still seems largely inaccessible. I wonder how BMO clients get in?

[ILoveHalifax]

Originally Posted by Keith P.

I wonder how BMO clients get in?

DUH!! Thru a door?

[Keith P.]

Originally Posted by ILoveHalifax

DUH!! Thru a door?

Thank you for that incisive comment.

Let me rephrase the question: I wonder WHERE BMO clients get in?

[OldDartmouthMark]

Originally Posted by Keith P.

Thank you for that incisive comment.

Let me rephrase the question: I wonder WHERE BMO clients get in?

My guess:

[Keith P.]

Originally Posted by OldDartmouthMark

My guess:

Is that Argyle St.? Is that also the entrance to the office tower?

[OldDartmouthMark]

Originally Posted by Keith P.

Is that Argyle St.? Is that also the entrance to the office tower?

I think that's 'Rogers Square' (the street formerly known as Grafton).

[hoser111]

Originally Posted by OldDartmouthMark

I think that's 'Rogers Square' (the street formerly known as Grafton).

It is... That shot basically looking from the PG/Grafton corner. No doubt quite a scramble going on in the week prior to opening!

[Nouvellecosse]

Originally Posted by OldDartmouthMark

Look, enough of the bullcrap.

Terrynorthend is right - this "discussion" has diluted the Nova Centre thread enough, and I'm going to end my part in it right now. It all started as a discussion over the Argyle/Grafton street makeover (which doesn't have a thread of its own) and went out in left field somewhere after that.

You're being way too complicated over trying to guess my intent. I'll end it where I started with my quote about how I feel about the streetscaping:



It is what it is. If you consider my views too mainstream for your liking, I'm OK with that. They are my views and I don't depend on your judgment to decide how I feel about things.

Have a nice day.

Whoa... what I was discussing had nothing to do with disliking ideas because they're mainstream and everything to do with being willing to embrace good ideas regardless of whether or not they're at odds with the mainstream. This whole thing started with you attacking other people's opinions because they weren't mainstream enough for your liking, not with me criticizing your opinions. I'm sorry if you find that way too complicated because, it really isn't.

[OldDartmouthMark]

Originally Posted by Nouvellecosse

Whoa... what I was discussing had nothing to do with disliking ideas because they're mainstream and everything to do with being willing to embrace good ideas regardless of whether or not they're at odds with the mainstream. This whole thing started with you attacking other people's opinions because they weren't mainstream enough for your liking, not with me criticizing your opinions. I'm sorry if you find that way too complicated because, it really isn't.

Why are you digging up an off-topic discussion from a few weeks ago? I've long been finished with it.

And, FWIW, I wasn't attacking anybody's opinions (nice attempt at adding drama!), I was just expressing my own.

Now, let it rest... please!

[Keith P.]

Originally Posted by OldDartmouthMark

Why are you digging up an off-topic discussion from a few weeks ago?

A really slooooooooow internet connection perhaps?

[Nouvellecosse]

Originally Posted by OldDartmouthMark

Why are you digging up an off-topic discussion from a few weeks ago? I've long been finished with it.

And, FWIW, I wasn't attacking anybody's opinions (nice attempt at adding drama!), I was just expressing my own.

Now, let it rest... please!

I don't often search through the subforums, and instead I simply click on things that come to the top when I have time. I was busier several weeks ago and didn't have time to keep up with the forum and now I'm less busy. Not that this is in any way relevant? Fact is, I will respond to any topic any time that I have something I want to say, and you're welcome to do the same. But I'm not forcing anyone else to take part, but conversely, I won't have another member force me not to.

As far as the attack, I was referring to this:

Originally Posted by OldDartmouthMark

I've long tired of all the extremist values continually bickered about here. At this point Halifax is completely accessible by car if you wish, so the sky isn't falling in that regard. Halifax is not big enough (like London, UK, for example) where banning cars from the downtown makes any sense whatsoever, so why push for it other than a personal preference. Transit could use improvement, and I think we will get it. If we all stepped off our high horses and conceded that we can all share the downtown and try to get along we'd all be better off, IMHO.

The bolded part is absolutely an attack on other people expressing opinions you don't agree with, for the implied reason that they're too "extremist" aka, not mainstream enough. It wasn't sharing your own opinion of the topic; it was criticising other people for sharing theirs. Denying it doesn't change this.

[OldDartmouthMark]

Originally Posted by Nouvellecosse

I don't often search through the subforums, and instead I simply click on things that come to the top when I have time. I was busier several weeks ago and didn't have time to keep up with the forum and now I'm less busy. Not that this is in any way relevant? Fact is, I will respond to any topic any time that I have something I want to say, and you're welcome to do the same. But I'm not forcing anyone else to take part, but conversely, I won't have another member force me not to.

As far as the attack, I was referring to this:



The bolded part is absolutely an attack on other people expressing opinions you don't agree with, for the implied reason that they're too "extremist" aka, not mainstream enough. It wasn't sharing your own opinion of the topic; it was criticising other people for sharing theirs. Denying it doesn't change this.

Spin it however you like.

OK, it's an attack rather than my opinion that I'm tired of extreme values, i.e. all cars should be taken off the road because they are the reason for all our problems, or, the city should spend $0 on bicycle lanes because they are pandering to special interest groups. My opinions lie in the middle of that, and to be honest with all the world events that seem to be centred around extreme values and not being able or willing to understand anybody else's point of view but their own, I'm quite tired of it all. So, sorry for 'attacking' you.

And yes, we all need to step off our high horses every now and then and try to see things from other perspectives. So, again, sorry for the 'attack'. I hope you can recover from it.

Why do I get the idea that you really enjoy arguing?

Now, can we go back to this thread being about the Nova Centre? Please??

Edit: In the interest of avoiding further derailment of the Nova Centre thread, I started a thread in the General section that can be used to continue this discussion, attack, or whatever it is. I think there are some good points made that do merit further discussion, or at least some axes to grind. So if there are any more points to be made, the thread is: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?p=8015246#post8015246. If not, then it will soon fall, unanswered, to the bottom of the list and we can consider this topic done (for now, anyhow)...

[IanWatson]

Originally Posted by Keith P.

Thank you for that incisive comment.

Let me rephrase the question: I wonder WHERE BMO clients get in?

You can now walk all the way through the Grafton plaza, with access points to the BMO door. Unfortunately it looks like they rushed to get the pavers down... A lot of them are not installed well and are quite uneven.

[eastcoastal]

Originally Posted by IanWatson

You can now walk all the way through the Grafton plaza, with access points to the BMO door. Unfortunately it looks like they rushed to get the pavers down... A lot of them are not installed well and are quite uneven.

Isn't Grafton now "Rogers?"

[Keith P.]

Originally Posted by IanWatson

You can now walk all the way through the Grafton plaza, with access points to the BMO door. Unfortunately it looks like they rushed to get the pavers down... A lot of them are not installed well and are quite uneven.

What a shock. A return of the old 1980s ankle benders. Many predicted this but Mason assured us these would be different. Those who ignore history are condemned to repeat it.

[IanWatson]

Originally Posted by eastcoastal

Isn't Grafton now "Rogers?"

Yes, but I refuse to call it that. Bad enough a public street became privatized. Worse that the name has been changed to the highest bidder.

[IanWatson]

Originally Posted by Keith P.

What a shock. A return of the old 1980s ankle benders. Many predicted this but Mason assured us these would be different. Those who ignore history are condemned to repeat it.

To be clear, this is only on the Nova Centre plaza part. The pavers on the pedestrian streets done by the city are great.