PHILADELPHIA | Highrise Development Thread IX

[Nova08]

With new large lease, Spark Therapeutics stays true to West Philly roots
https://www.bizjournals.com/philadelphia...ics-one-drexel-plaza-brandywine-cre.html

Behind a paywall, but essentially...

The company took 107,669 square feet at 3001-3025 Market St., a building that Brandywine Realty Trust is redeveloping as part of its massive Schuylkill Yards development. The lease was signed Nov. 20 and will run for 15 years, according to documents Spark filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission.

So that's 107,000 sq ft. in this building
50,000 sq ft. in FMC
28,000+ sq ft. in 3737 Market

Interesting that they are not going for one continuous location.

[City Wide]

Originally Posted by jjv007

Frankly, I thought 1487 could be quite frustrating with his contrarian perspectives (as did many on the forum I think) but he brought a lot to the forum as a whole. I trust Hammer's judgment but hope it wasn't due to some sort of vendetta. I did notice that over time Hammer started becoming increasingly annoyed at 1487's posts, sometimes even when they didn't appear overly egregious. Must have been a built up. Overall, just unfortunate since it appears to be a permanent ban rather than a temporary suspension. I'm assuming and hoping it was due to something that occurred in some sort of direct message since I saw nothing in the recent forum threads to merit a suspension or ban.

As one who regularly crossed words with 1487 and found much of what he/she said and how it was said to be extremely frustrating, I find my thinking at 50/50 over this action of banning him. In general having a variety of voices in the storm can be helpful, and his voice was usually one that didn't follow the crowd, but damn he could get tiring at times. You could almost count on his opinion causing a stir about every 2 or 3 weeks. I'll miss hearing his viewpoint, but won't miss the attempts at explanation.

Happy trails, 1487!

I'm still looking forward to seeing how the great debate over the equipment parked on the north side of Comcast's first set back will play out. Whatever 1487's view was on whether that's their long term home or not he was going to defend that view until the end. There was no reasoning with him that it would all work out in the end, either they would move or not, and the world would go on.

Uh, the good times----good bye.

[ePlanningPhila]

I know I have seen it on this forum. Can someone repost the RFP that Macy's Inc is looking to open a full line Bloomingdale's in Center City. I never saved the document but was interested to see it again.

Thanks!

[jjv007]

Originally Posted by PHL10

Some people were just jerks but 1487 was something of another sort that was incredibly frustrating but at times, I did find myself agreeing with him. Just a hypothetical type of back and forth I would have with 1487 that would drive me nuts:

Random poster:
Anyone know how thick the slab with be?
Me: I managed to talk to the chief engineer on site and he said the slab will be 8’ thick.
1487: Slabs generally aren’t that think so I think that‘s unlikely, it’s probably around 5’ thick.
Me: OK but in this case, I talked to the guy on site who actually designed it and he said it’s 8’ thick so it’s not really up for debate.
1487: You obviously don’t understand the economics of these things because an 8’ thick slab wouldn’t make any sense.
Me: Forget it.

Haha this sounds like it could have been a past conversation on the forum.

[jjv007]

Originally Posted by iheartphilly

1487 can never be wrong....at least that how things came across to the point of being very irritating to mildly irritating and not open minded to others opinions, etc. But, I really thought things had improved after his first ban or suspension as the communications at times were congenial. I guess the guy above Summersm, who I consider is the 1st line mod, had enough of his style of communication on this forum, and applied the 2nd ban. Maybe he will have a change of heart and lift the ban. And, maybe 1487 will change his style of communicating on this forum. You can be knowledgeable, but not confrontational or stubborn at the same time. Word to the wise.

I too had thought he had reeled it in a bit after the first three-day suspension. Prior to that initial ban, he had been flirting with danger quite precariously, but I hadn't thought he had reached those levels after coming back. I'm guessing maybe Hammer got upset at his quibblings on "The Nest on North Broad" thread and issued him a seven-day suspension, following which 1487 may have sent a comment via DM which resulted in the permanent ban. I hope that's not the case though, because I thought the convo on the aforementioned Nest thread was civil and generally on topic despite the back and forth.

[jsbrook]

Originally Posted by el don

I would just like to add that even though he was unbearably confrontational, I too appreciated 1487's contrarian viewpoints. He always brought up the less popular side of the argument to EVERY single topic. His posts really showed the sharp contrast of the old school Philly attitude "that we can't have nice things because.." vs the other more aspirational posters who dream big without the constraints of any city government/institutional/social barrier. I hate the group think that arises when like minded individuals congregate together, and 1487 definitely made sure that didn't happen in this forum.

Pouring out a Bud Light for 1487. Dilly Dilly.

Yes. Contrarian views are welcome. Contrarian people...not as much. It's a shame he couldn't play better in the sandbox with others.

[jsbrook]

Originally Posted by Nova08

With new large lease, Spark Therapeutics stays true to West Philly roots
https://www.bizjournals.com/philadelphia...ics-one-drexel-plaza-brandywine-cre.html

Behind a paywall, but essentially...



So that's 107,000 sq ft. in this building
50,000 sq ft. in FMC
28,000+ sq ft. in 3737 Market

Interesting that they are not going for one continuous location.

Seems likely to me that they will consolidate in a Schuylkill Yards building once one that suits them is built. Although 15 years is a long time. They are probably locked in at FMC and 3737 Market and can think about moving as existing leases run.

[SEFTA]

I have a feeling that what ever post he was banned for was removed.
I don't think his removal will be better for the forum.
I will miss him.

[Redddog]

Originally Posted by SEFTA

I have a feeling that what ever post he was banned for was removed.
I don't think his removal will be better for the forum.
I will miss him.

If I had to guess, you wont have to miss him that long. Be on the lookout for a new poster under the name "1488"

[SEFTA]

Originally Posted by Redddog

If I had to guess, you wont have to miss him that long. Be on the lookout for a new poster under the name "1488"

[McBane]

1487 can be annoying but also had plenty of positive contributions. Let's not pile on someone who can't defend himself.

Good news about Spark. They're a growing company and had heard when they were looking for space that they were open to locations outside of the city. Although, given their lease terms, it doesn't appear that they're going to be a tenant that sparks construction of a new tower. Now if that's true, then the opposite can be inferred from Comcast's short lease at the big brown building, or whatever they're calling it these days.

[PHL10]

Originally Posted by McBane

Let's not pile on someone who can't defend himself.

Who's piling on? It seems that now that he's gone, people are really considering the positive aspects he did bring to the forum. It seems to be the opposite. He got way more grief when he was here to defend himself.

[El Duderino]

are others playing “it’s so hard to say goodbye to yesterday” while reading this?

his perspective, no matter how grating it was presented at times, added a nice dimension to the discussion. i don’t know what happened behind closed doors, but i appreciate the fair moderation by hammer and summers.

[Londonee]

This 1487 discussion for him is a little like being alive and witnessing your own funeral.

[City Wide]

Originally Posted by PHL10

Who's piling on? It seems that now that he's gone, people are really considering the positive aspects he did bring to the forum. It seems to be the opposite. He got way more grief when he was here to defend himself.

Ya, just about every comment in the last day or so has pretty much said that 1487 was a complete 🞵🞵🞵, but that he brought a unique perspective to the table, one that was mostly appreciated. I think he was regularly challenged on these pages and rarely took the bait, he just kept telling all of us that only he new what was going on. He was consistent against the board.

If anything the choir seems to be asking when will 1487 2.0 appear. Personally, I'll take and enjoy the vacation.

[thisisforreal]

What happened to Cro Burnham? Self-imposed exile?

[Busy Bee]

Isn't all this eulogizing just a little odd considering he could just register with a new handle and email and none of you would know the difference until you started being repulsed by the new guy?

[hammersklavier]

Originally Posted by Busy Bee

Isn't all this eulogizing just a little odd considering he could just register with a new handle and email and none of you would know the difference until you started being repulsed by the new guy?

Fortunately, sockpuppetry is a bannable offense.

[skyscraper]

Oh sorry, I didn't realize this was the 1487 memorial thread, I thought this was the Philly Highrise Thread.

[Urbanthusiat]

Originally Posted by skyscraper

Oh sorry, I didn't realize this was the 1487 memorial thread, I thought this was the Philly Highrise Thread.

It's a skyscraper thread. Go you!!!

But forreal tho let's move on.