Saskatoon | River Landing Village | 88m-63m-50m-55m | 18-20-17-13 floors | Completed - Page 49

Stormer · #**961** Posted **Dec 1, 2017, 2:16 PM**

This will be far and away Saskatoon's best office tower. First class touches such as glassing in the roof mechanical make a huge difference and make it look taller. I see from the section that the floor of the 13th level is 47m above grade. That puts the overall height at about 55m which is quite tall for a 13 floor building.

Echoes · #**962** Posted **Dec 1, 2017, 3:51 PM**

Really looking forward to this tower, and as I've mentioned before, its placement on the development site is going to create a partially terminated vista at the southern terminus of 3rd Avenue. The view down that street is going to get a lot more urban in the next 2 years.

I'm really hoping that the North Tower proceeds within the next 3 years and at the full proposed height.

alt_center · #**963** Posted **Dec 1, 2017, 4:12 PM**

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Originally Posted by mitchellk12

yes they will. a good buddy of mine has been surveying the whole condo/hotel and now office tower projects. thats what he told me just now after i snapped a photo of the question, said they are supposed to link together.

Here is my take...

The plans in the July 8, 2016 Meewasin document (link below) show the east parkade and the north parkade as joined together. The placement of the ramps and the substantial wall between the east and north parkades indicates to me that they were planned to be built in stages, east first. The north parkade is designed as an extension of the east parkade and could not function stand alone (unlike the east parkade). The north parkade is butted up against the hotel (west) parkade, but not "linked" (i.e., no ability to drive between them). The office parkades are alternating split levels with ramps whereas the hotel parkade is a corkscrew with no ramps. Linking the office parkade to the hotel parkade would be difficult, sacrifice parking spots, and provide no obvious benefit.

The plans show that the office parkade will extend partway into the plaza area, but not under any potential water feature.

Also, if built as shown, the north parkade will be under the entrance to the hotel parkade. It will be interesting to see how (if) they pull that off. Perhaps they will temporarily re-orient the entrance to second ave.

Of course I have no idea if those plans are up to date.

https://meewasin.com/about/development/public-notices/applications-approved/

mitchellk12 · #**964** Posted **Dec 1, 2017, 7:28 PM**

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Originally Posted by Echoes

Really looking forward to this tower, and as I've mentioned before, its placement on the development site is going to create a partially terminated vista at the southern terminus of 3rd Avenue. The view down that street is going to get a lot more urban in the next 2 years.

I'm really hoping that the North Tower proceeds within the next 3 years and at the full proposed height.

im not sure about the timeline but i think the height its proposed at will stick. I do agree with the view driving southbound on 3rd ave and even 2nd ave, sure looks and feels denser now. i know this wont happen, but id like to see the city close off the road on 2nd ave between 22nd-19th ( like stephen ave in calgary ) i like that feel when im there and something like that here would be cool.

has anyone heard anything on the North tower, kiwi? alt?

Crisis · #**965** Posted **Dec 1, 2017, 11:29 PM**

I still wouldn't be holding my breath on the North Tower starting anytime soon. With the East Tower underway and the potential of the "World Trade Centre" at 22nd and 3rd, there will be a lot of Class A office space coming to the market.

It would certainly be nice to see it happen soon, but an investment like that isn't undertaken on a leap of faith. It's not a "build it and they will come" type of deal.

alt_center · #**966** Posted **Dec 2, 2017, 1:08 AM**

I don't have any inside information regarding the north tower, or anything about this project for that matter. Hopefully the fact that it would complete that block increases the odds that it will eventually get built. I've said it before and maintain that River Landing will become a very prime spot, and that's got to help too.

Dec. 1 2017 pictures:

^^^^ Crane segments arriving

^^^^ Condo 11th floor columns up

^^^^ Some exterior components are appearing on the hotel

^^^^ First floor glazing is disappointing

Lots of shoring I-beams already in. I wonder if they will install a shoring wall all around the excavation or use a slope in some places like the hotel/condo.

I've always wondered how this is done. They've concreted the I-beams right up to ground level. I guess they then chip away the concrete on the excavation side of the I-beams and install wooden cross beams and anchors as they dig down. Presumably the wooden cross beams are eventually removed as they build up.

kiwi4life · #**967** Posted **Dec 2, 2017, 2:45 PM**

That’s exactly how we did the I beams at the banks exact same idea. Works well, also crane jacking on Sunday if anyone is out taking pictures

kiwi4life · #**968** Posted **Dec 2, 2017, 10:58 PM**

Now just got a text from the crane operator of the grey and white crane that they are delayed on the jacking of the crane for two weeks at least. Sorry guys

Brutopian · #**969** Posted **Dec 3, 2017, 12:43 AM**

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Originally Posted by Crisis

I still wouldn't be holding my breath on the North Tower starting anytime soon. With the East Tower underway and the potential of the "World Trade Centre" at 22nd and 3rd, there will be a lot of Class A office space coming to the market.

It would certainly be nice to see it happen soon, but an investment like that isn't undertaken on a leap of faith. It's not a "build it and they will come" type of deal.

If the north tower is built at its proposed height, will it be the tallest building in Saskatchewan?

saskatoonborn · #**970** Posted **Dec 3, 2017, 3:59 AM**

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Originally Posted by Brutopian

If the north tower is built at its proposed height, will it be the tallest building in Saskatchewan?

Wellllll that depends on your definition. Tallest freestanding structure is a smoke stack on the shand power station at 148m and k3 mine at Esterhazy is over 100m tall but. As far as a hotel/condo/office building I believe it will be the tallest in Saskatchewan.

mitchellk12 · #**971** Posted **Dec 3, 2017, 12:22 PM**

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Originally Posted by kiwi4life

Now just got a text from the crane operator of the grey and white crane that they are delayed on the jacking of the crane for two weeks at least. Sorry guys

i wonder what caused the delay?

mitchellk12 · #**972** Posted **Dec 3, 2017, 12:24 PM**

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Originally Posted by saskatoonborn

Wellllll that depends on your definition. Tallest freestanding structure is a smoke stack on the shand power station at 148m and k3 mine at Esterhazy is over 100m tall but. As far as a hotel/condo/office building I believe it will be the tallest in Saskatchewan.

with the track record of Capital Pointe in Regina, the north tower will be the tallest if its built now. Unless something else magically is proposed in the coming years that surpasses 100m.

saskatoonborn · #**973** Posted **Dec 3, 2017, 5:49 PM**

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Originally Posted by mitchellk12

with the track record of Capital Pointe in Regina, the north tower will be the tallest if its built now. Unless something else magically is proposed in the coming years that surpasses 100m.

Wasn't RL north tower always supposed to be taller than CP? 95m vs 90m respectively?

kiwi4life · #**974** Posted **Dec 4, 2017, 12:21 AM**

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Originally Posted by mitchellk12

i wonder what caused the delay?

Yes climbing jack is not working and a few other issues with the tie back arms. There more but I can’t give away those details. So climbing jack is going back to Edmonton for maintenance etc.

alt_center · #**975** Posted **Dec 4, 2017, 12:53 AM**

I went past River Landing on my run today (Sunday) while they were jacking the red crane.

^^^^ Moving an extension piece into position. I did not see the jacking rig on the red crane on Friday so presumably it was quick to install. Office tower shoring in the foreground.

^^^^ Extension in jacking rig. I didn't get a pic but it looks to me like what they did is pick up another load with the crane and then attempted to get the crane as balanced as possible for when they unbolted it from the column and actually jacked it up and slid the extension into place.

There is no tie-back installed on the grey crane. Perhaps they had last minute problems with the jacking rig. Maybe there was a problem with the tie-back, or they want to put it higher. Whatever the issue, I assume that the (two week ?) delay is because they have enough room to pour another floor or two before next attempting to jack the crane. (Update: I only saw kiwis post above after I posted this)

^^^^ They moved the condo showroom to the northwest corner of the block to make room for the east office tower work.

^^^^ Considering the condo is about halfway up, and the north tower (as proposed) is significantly taller than the condo, and the east tower will be almost as tall as the condo, the view coming over the freeway bridge will be fantastic.

mitchellk12 · #**976** Posted **Dec 4, 2017, 11:49 AM**

the jacking rig for the red crane showed up saturday morning. the red crane went a little higher than i thought it would.

Brutopian · #**977** Posted **Dec 5, 2017, 1:36 AM**

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Originally Posted by saskatoonborn

Wasn't RL north tower always supposed to be taller than CP? 95m vs 90m respectively?

I know it's psychological more than anything, but it would be great for Saskatchewan to finally crack the 100m mark for a downtown tower. If you're going to build a tower that's 95 metres, then why not throw in another couple of floors to crack that 100m mark, right?

The Bess · #**978** Posted **Dec 5, 2017, 2:58 AM**

I totally agree, man that would be sweet, it would make the skyline a little bit more interesting from a distance to have one tower higher than the rest

kiwi4life · #**979** Posted **Dec 5, 2017, 3:08 AM**

Who knows maybe they will increase the height on the 4 th tower ya never know... hey what happen to that city Center tower project that they were working on!? Is that dead or still in process!? If you guys know what I’m talking bout. Sorry this post should probably be in the saskatoon one.

saskatoonborn · #**980** Posted **Dec 5, 2017, 4:44 AM**

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Originally Posted by kiwi4life

Who knows maybe they will increase the height on the 4 th tower ya never know... hey what happen to that city Center tower project that they were working on!? Is that dead or still in process!? If you guys know what I’m talking bout. Sorry this post should probably be in the saskatoon one.

Unfortunately that got seriously downsized. It is now the World Trade Center Saskatoon project. Supposedly it is supposed to start in the spring but they said that about the summer... and then the fall so honestly I don't think it is going to happen anytime soon. There is also a 2nd phase to it which may be eventually another, hopefully taller, tower but it is slated to be an at grade paved parking lot for now.