YVR Airport & Sea Island Developments Discussion - Page 613

Gordon · #**12241** Posted **Nov 28, 2017, 11:01 PM**

That will be lots of capacity to Ord next summer 5 flights \ day

nname · #**12242** Posted **Nov 28, 2017, 11:13 PM**

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Originally Posted by Gordon

That will be lots of capacity to Ord next summer 5 flights \ day

4x daily UA
2x daily AC
1x daily AA

That's 7x daily

CareerShow · #**12243** Posted **Nov 29, 2017, 1:45 PM**

AC launching Sacramento with Express CRA 705 year round daily.

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases...utes-starting-spring-2018-660734743.html

trofirhen · #**12244** Posted **Nov 29, 2017, 8:03 PM**

Four years back, AC chief Calin Rovinescu warned of YVR becoming a "stub" airport with a lot of foreign carriers, but not a strong hub.
He seems to be making good his promise of a true YVR "hub, " with the new AC routes being bestowed upon it.

LeftCoaster · #**12245** Posted **Nov 29, 2017, 10:29 PM**

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Originally Posted by SFUVancouver

A thread on Airliners.net notes that American is increasing its ORD-YVR service with evening service from ORD to YVR and an overnight red-eye in the other direction.

Source

Barely even a month after I was wondering if AA was going to get in on the ORD action:

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Originally Posted by LeftCoaster

I for one appreciate the multitude of options to Chicago, since work seems to be taking me there more and more.

I wonder if AA will ever get in on the action, they like to pretend they are equals with United at ORD.

I better start speculating that LATAM is going to start a YVR-GRU route soon

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Originally Posted by CareerShow

AC launching Sacramento with Express CRA 705 year round daily.

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases...utes-starting-spring-2018-660734743.html

Fantastic news! One of the routes I just couldn't figure out why they weren't flying when I did my route calculator based off the O&D charts provided by Transportation Canada.

In case anyone has forgotten:

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Originally Posted by LeftCoaster

I guess it's time to dust off the ol' route calculator I used a year or so back.

These were my old extrapolated estimates based off 2016 transborder growth rates:

Which really begs the question, when is YVR going to get more than token IAD service? It is such an outlier.

Johnny Aussie · #**12246** Posted **Nov 30, 2017, 7:58 AM**

More excellent news.

AA to ORD.
AA will have 7 daily flights ex YVR next summer (6 of those mainline) to four AA hubs.

AC to SMF
AC will have 16 daily flights to California next summer from YVR (10 mainline) to five cities (six in winter).

As stated before, I can see AC flying to IAD, SMF, MIA/FLL and maybe PHL. So tick SMF off that list. So that leaves IAD and MIA as likely and PHL as a more distant maybe... perhaps on AA.

Johnny Aussie · #**12247** Posted **Nov 30, 2017, 8:11 AM**

YVR's website is now showing the inaugural AC37 to MEL for 1 December departure at 2245.

I plan on heading to MEL airport to catch the arrival here Sunday morning.

Johnny Aussie · #**12248** Posted **Dec 1, 2017, 12:55 AM**

A good summary of upcoming projects to help YVR competitive well into the future.

http://www.yvr.ca/en/blog/2017/craigs-corner-construction-at-yvr

The newly launched construction pages on yvr’s website

http://www.yvr.ca/en/passengers/construction

Specifically regarding terminal construction

http://www.yvr.ca/en/passengers/construction/terminal-expansions

2017 will wrap up as another fantastic year of growth. With everything already announced for 2018 some of these projects won’t be able to come soon enough!

LeftCoaster · #**12249** Posted **Dec 1, 2017, 11:06 PM**

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Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

As stated before, I can see AC flying to IAD, SMF, MIA/FLL and maybe PHL. So tick SMF off that list. So that leaves IAD and MIA as likely and PHL as a more distant maybe... perhaps on AA.

MIA and PHL would be nice adds by AA. Not sure they have the best equipment to do it though.

MIA imo is just a matter of the right plane, the demand seems to be there

PHL agreed is a bit more of a long shot, but with AA shifting a ton of their JFK trans Atlantic flights over to PHL they may be looking for feed. Could help the case for YVR-PHL, even if just summer seasonal.

IAD just baffles that there is no service given the distance, O&D levels and complementary Star Alliance hubs.

LeftCoaster · #**12250** Posted **Dec 1, 2017, 11:12 PM**

Thinking more on the Sacramento flights and I really don't understand them.

Vancouver – Sacramento eff 17MAY18 1 daily CRJ705. This route was previously served until October 2008
AC8042 YVR0855 – 1106SMF CRA D
AC8043 SMF1145 – 1357YVR CRA D

AC seems to be gunning for purely O&D traffic here as the flights leave YVR at 8:55AM completely missing any inbound traffic outside of the Australia flights and arrive in YVR at 1:57 PM completely missing the outbound Asian block with only Tokyo on ANA at 3:05.

Anyone have any ideas as to why the flights are scheduled this way? Seems like the times should be inverted (I understand that is not possible as how would the plane be in SMF to leave at 8:55AM)

Johnny Aussie · #**12251** Posted **Dec 1, 2017, 11:32 PM**

Good question. Same with PHX.

AC YVR transborder going to be a very busy place mid morning next summer.

PHX 0800
LAS 0810
SFO 0840
SEA 0840
PDX 0840
BOS 0855
SMF 0855
SJC 0855
EWR 0900
LAX 0910

That’s more capacity to the US than all of YEG’s transborder schedule.

LeftCoaster · #**12252** Posted **Dec 1, 2017, 11:35 PM**

So strange. Hopefully the O&D for SMF is strong so the flight can go double daily and have a morning and afternoon slot to better serve the big afternoon Asia and Europe banks.

Also looks like Air China has tweeked their S18 YVR plans. YVR will be served with only 777HD next summer, but 11 PW. The really strange part is that it will be double daily except one per day on Tuesday and none on Saturday! Very odd. Hopefully they supplement those 777s with some 330s to round out the double daily schedule.

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/air...s18-international-changes-as-of-30nov17/

mezzanine · #**12253** Posted **Dec 1, 2017, 11:40 PM**

IAD would be a nice add as I can see a lot of beltway types and non-us nationals wanting to use YVR as a transfer point to get to Washington DC to the rest of the world. I would think this is a strong likelihood of happening. if we get IAD, we can ask for DCA again in the future.

I thought the timing for the SMF flight is entirely due to Australia. I have no inside knowledge but I suspect there is higher demand from better yielding passengers for less stressful travel to Australia versus LAX/SFO. other flights to asia I suspect just don't make as much money as AC's flights to Australia due to more choice and competition.

mezzanine · #**12254** Posted **Dec 1, 2017, 11:47 PM**

Speaking of which, MEL starts today!

source: YVR twitter

Johnny Aussie · #**12255** Posted **Dec 2, 2017, 1:45 AM**

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Originally Posted by LeftCoaster

Also looks like Air China has tweeked their S18 YVR plans. YVR will be served with only 777HD next summer, but 11 PW. The really strange part is that it will be double daily except one per day on Tuesday and none on Saturday! Very odd. Hopefully they supplement those 777s with some 330s to round out the double daily schedule.

Not sure where you see that.

I've got CA992 daily and CA998 operating days 1467 new departure time of 0230.

Remember the cap is on frequencies so they can't increase their flights per week above their cap. Double daily is not possible under the current allotment.

Hourglass · #**12256** Posted **Dec 2, 2017, 4:29 AM**

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Originally Posted by mezzanine

Speaking of which, MEL starts today!

source: YVR twitter

Nice!

And the announcement on MEL (and MCO and YZF) is here: http://www.newswire.ca/news-releases/yvr...ce-to-melbourne-in-canada-661329953.html

s211 · #**12257** Posted **Dec 2, 2017, 4:41 AM**

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Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

Good question. Same with PHX.

AC YVR transborder going to be a very busy place mid morning next summer.

PHX 0800
LAS 0810
SFO 0840
SEA 0840
PDX 0840
BOS 0855
SMF 0855
SJC 0855
EWR 0900
LAX 0910

That’s more capacity to the US than all of YEG’s transborder schedule.

Ouch. No need to pour lemon juice on that paper cut.

Johnny Aussie · #**12258** Posted **Dec 2, 2017, 5:29 AM**

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Originally Posted by s211

Ouch. No need to pour lemon juice on that paper cut.

Not at all. Just to show how big YVR international is becoming. More seats being pushed out in one hour on just one carrier.

Another reason to get those expansions built tout de suite!

Johnny Aussie · #**12259** Posted **Dec 2, 2017, 7:01 AM**

AC37 pushed back 6 minutes early.

Just took off 08R at 2259 local time.

ETA in MEL pretty much on time tomorrow morning.

tayser · #**12260** Posted **Dec 2, 2017, 3:06 PM**

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Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

AC37 pushed back 6 minutes early.

Just took off 08R at 2259 local time.

ETA in MEL pretty much on time tomorrow morning.

And not far from crossing the equator now.

I for one welcome our new Canadian overlords. Just hurry up and make the year-round service from June daily! https://www.flightradar24.com/ACA037/fb583f5