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[BVictor1]

Originally Posted by the urban politician

They must be doing some serious negotiating with the Alderman behind the scenes. Or maybe they are just reading this forum

My prediction stands:

They will reduce the size of the second building to throw a bone to the NIMBYs while making the taller tower even taller and thinner without adding units. They will also simply increase the asking costs of some of the tower units.

My hope is that they would reduce the parking count as well.

Thing is, there weren't any nimby complaints. Traffic on Chicago Ave. was brought up, but that's it. People didn't really complain about the density or height.

[KWillChicago]

Anyone have a prediction of when or if this comes into fruition? Or do most of you think this will get juggled back and forth for the next year or two? I just bring it up because it seems like they are powering through this thing for approval compared to some of the past recent towers.

[BVictor1]

Originally Posted by KWillChicago

Anyone have a prediction of when or if this comes into fruition? Or do most of you think this will get juggled back and forth for the next year or two? I just bring it up because it seems like they are powering through this thing for approval compared to some of the past recent towers.

I'm betting on this going to plan commission in December-January. The developer stated that he'd like to begin construction within a year.

And seeing as they don't need to rely on condo sales for financing...

[the urban politician]

^ What do you mean? I thought there were going to be some condos here

[Randomguy34]

^ only about 75 of them. I believe BVictor1 is saying that pre-sales may not be as necessary, since the condos will make up a smaller percentage of the money generated. Most of the profits will come from the high-end rental units and retail sales, along with about 45,000 sqft of office space.

[Neuman]

There must have been another gun battle outside the flower shop then, I believe their is a historical marker on the outside the cathedral that explains a number of bullets are lodged in the doors to the church from a gangland hit of some kind. I thought it had to do with O'Banions death.

[Randomguy34]

From JuanPaulo on SSC, you can see the Holy Name site on the lower right. Amazing to see the transformation N. State St has undergone

Originally Posted by JuanPaulo

http://www.oranga.com/pics2/scan9147.jpg

[donnie]

Nice pic!

[the urban politician]

Wow, that site just south of the current proposal had some nice buildings on it. Much nicer than the piece of shit 4 story garage that is there now

[Randomguy34]

Originally Posted by the urban politician

Wow, that site just south of the current proposal had some nice buildings on it. Much nicer than the piece of shit 4 story garage that is there now

Yeah, this makes me kinda wish that the city kept this area around Chicago/State intact, while letting the area east and west continue to become a skyscraper forest. Similar to what Hell's Kitchen is to Times Square and Hudson Yards.

[Halsted & Villagio]

Originally Posted by Randomguy34

Yeah, this makes me kinda wish that the city kept this area around Chicago/State intact, while letting the area east and west continue to become a skyscraper forest. Similar to what Hell's Kitchen is to Times Square and Hudson Yards.

Yep, we definitely dropped the ball here. A travesty to destroy such historical density. Just all the more reason why One Chicago Square is so important. To me, this is the tower I am most looking forward to because of what it can do for that area of the city. OCS pulls our skyline further west and will inevitably lead to more density in this area of the city.

Fingers crossed this tower goes up fairly soon and hopefully it exceeds 1,000 ft.

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[Jibba]

Originally Posted by the urban politician

Wow, that site just south of the current proposal had some nice buildings on it. Much nicer than the piece of shit 4 story garage that is there now

That site is actually now occupied by One Superior Place. Not a sophisticated piece of architecture by any means, but the Superior, State, and Huron portions of the perimeter are pleasant enough to walk by. All are fronted with active commercial spaces and bordered by generously sized planting areas. The Dearborn side has a never-ending parade of trucks coming in and out (for Whole Foods, Roy's, etc.) and stinks of grease and food waste, but otherwise it's nice enough from street level, especially considering what an unforgiving slab the tower is. The unit count has to be decently high. There're probably at least 12 units per floor, based on the balcony pattern, over 30+ floors.

Prior building looks to be an indistinctive 4-story. A lovely archetype of local vernacular, for sure, but not capacious enough to satisfy the demands of the area, as you mentioned in another thread. Here's hoping the extant one of the same type at NW Chicago & State is long for this world.

[Freefall]

Originally Posted by Jibba

That site is actually now occupied by One Superior Place. Not a sophisticated piece of architecture by any means, but the Superior, State, and Huron portions of the perimeter are pleasant enough to walk by. All are fronted with active commercial spaces and bordered by generously sized planting areas. The Dearborn side has a never-ending parade of trucks coming in and out (for Whole Foods, Roy's, etc.) and stinks of grease and food waste, but otherwise it's nice enough from street level, especially considering what an unforgiving slab the tower is. The unit count has to be decently high. There're probably at least 12 units per floor, based on the balcony pattern, over 30+ floors.

Prior building looks to be an indistinctive 4-story. A lovely archetype of local vernacular, for sure, but not capacious enough to satisfy the demands of the area, as you mentioned in another thread. Here's hoping the extant one of the same type at NW Chicago & State is long for this world.

Yep, OSP is the highest (by unit count) in a single building in downtown with 809 units. And one of the highest (I believe second) in the city.

[maru2501]

Originally Posted by Halsted & Villagio

Yep, we definitely dropped the ball here. A travesty to destroy such historical density. Just all the more reason why One Chicago Square is so important. To me, this is the tower I am most looking forward to because of what it can do for that area of the city. OCS pulls our skyline further west and will inevitably lead to more density in this area of the city.

Fingers crossed this tower goes up fairly soon and hopefully it exceeds 1,000 ft.

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agree. this could be the NW skyline anchor we have all be clamoring for for some time..

more important for city fabric and skyline impact than the Spire site, it could be argued.

[toddguy]

This is such an attractive and classy tower and really fits for Chicago IMO. But would it hurt to add maybe one more piece at the top, about half the size of the existing top, to give it a bit less of a flat top(not that it looks bad really)while pushing the height just a bit more?

Seeing that old pic of this site from the early 60's and all the slim spire prewar towers just made me hanker for one last final 'taper' at the top.

[chicubs111]

Originally Posted by toddguy

This is such an attractive and classy tower and really fits for Chicago IMO. But would it hurt to add maybe one more piece at the top, about half the size of the existing top, to give it a bit less of a flat top(not that it looks bad really)while pushing the height just a bit more?

Seeing that old pic of this site from the early 60's and all the slim spire prewar towers just made me hanker for one last final 'taper' at the top.

Absolutely agree...one more taper to a somewhat pinnacle would make it really look amazing

[KWillChicago]

I love this tower, design, and what its replacing. But "that tower that never got built but should have" mentality cant get me away from remembering Canyon Ranch. How has that design not been re-looked at. That area is craving a round tower, that is tall enough to make a difference.

[left of center]

^ Completely forgot about that proposal. Would love to see it retooled for another project. I'm sure Destefano still has all the design files saved somewhere.

[10023]

That was a different piece of land right? Build ’em both.

[10023]

Originally Posted by Freefall

Yep, OSP is the highest (by unit count) in a single building in downtown with 809 units. And one of the highest (I believe second) in the city.

Hideous piece of crap it is, though.

edit: crappy floorplans, too. Just looked at them.