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Old Posted Nov 21, 2017, 6:07 PM
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They are looking for the van.
LOL. Love it!
     
     
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LOL. Love it!
A watermain broke in this general area last year, after the sink hole. Perhaps they're now exposing and fixing this for good? It blasted a hole in the side of the Bay basement and partially filled the space with water (hence the Bay basement got a little reno).
     
     
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The old pathway ran on the other side of the tunnel (on the inside of the curve, where the east-bound tracks now run). That way the sidewalk could easily go from Tremblay Road, through the tunnel, to the east-bound Transitway bus platform.



I'm not sure how the same, simple, pedestrian connections can be made with the current configuration within the tunnel:



Assuming that a path will be added (although the current grading doesn't look to me as if it supports that theory), it would likely be added on the outside of the curve, outside the (new?) pillars. Such a path would connect a fare gate to the west-bound platform to where? It would emerge from the tunnel between the tracks and the 417.

The old pathway was convenient for people to easily get to the Transitway station. When that path was removed, during the construction for the LRT, there were complaints. The City's response was to say that they would endeavour to make sure that the path would be replaced. I don't see that happening within this tunnel. I think that we can chalk this one up to another loss in the 'Ease of Access' column.

There used to be a paved pathway, near the 417 structure, from the sidewalk along the east side of St. Laurent up to a death-defying crossing of the 417 on-ramp and bus ramp, but that path got messed up during the widening of the 417 structure and has not been rebuilt. I have used that path a few times, but it is decidedly un-friendly. Also, the sidewalk over the bridge from Labelle Street isn't too bad until you get to the shopping centre end; at which time the 'sidewalk' disappears and pedestrians are abandoned to their own courage. The St. Laurent OLRT Station looks as if it will be solely for the use of OC Transpo customers transferring from/to buses and patrons of the shopping mall.

On an unrelated note: Notice that the 'catenary' in the tunnel is a suspended 'rod', and not wire.
Looking at the photos...it suddenly occured to that maybe they didn't get rid of the pathway. I bet they put a wall between it and the tracks. In these days of fear and paranoia it's logical they wouldn't want people to be walking in a tunnel next to trains separated only by a railing. After all they could be terr'rists....

To reinforce my theory pay close attention to the space up at the top left where the old vents used to be and compare to this video around 6:40 when it was a bus tunnel. I think the wall is closer in now https://youtu.be/k_RCuCZemOw
     
     
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Also note the wall that used to be smooth cement now seems to be cinderblock
     
     
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Well spotted! I think that you are right; that they added the cinder block wall.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 22, 2017, 1:41 PM
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This picture shows how much more expensive bus tunnels are than train tunnels. This tunnel is much wider than needed for trains. Regardless of tunnelling method, excavating all that extra material adds to the cost.

Now granted this is a 4 lane busway, but that is needed near stations when you have multiple routes using the tunnel to allow passing. Even for 2 lanes, the tunnel needs to be wider to accommodate human error when steering. Trains just follow the rails, so you only need extra width for sway (something buses have as well).
     
     
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Maybe the work they're doing to the old ventilation shaft on the western edge of the station is an entrance/exit to the new MUP running in the tunnel.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 29, 2017, 3:00 PM
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Interesting shot of the end wall of Rideau Station. Assuming that's the west end? Its a vertical wall instead of the sloping cone shape of the other stations. Also the hole in the waterproofing...to a void space? Is that an access point, vent shaft, or just the remains of a sinkhole? I wonder how they're going to finish that off.

[QUOTE=J.OT13;8000580]Pics from Fleury's Twitter, Rideau Station;



https://twitter.com/MathieuFleury
     
     
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Interesting shot of the end wall of Rideau Station. Assuming that's the west end? Its a vertical wall instead of the sloping cone shape of the other stations. Also the hole in the waterproofing...to a void space? Is that an access point, vent shaft, or just the remains of a sinkhole? I wonder how they're going to finish that off.
That's where they're digging out the van

Come to think of it they should have a van memorial and stick one to the wall right there with a mobile of keys that move every time a train passes
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 29, 2017, 3:19 PM
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Come to think of it they should have a van memorial and stick one to the wall right there
Or spend a couple million dollars to paint one in the station and call it public art.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 29, 2017, 3:40 PM
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Have the van similar to the Blues Brothers themed restaurant that existed in Kingston a while back. Half in the earth, half in the station.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 29, 2017, 6:20 PM
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Thank goodness that Trainy McTrainface is longer than 16 characters.

Name the Trains Contest
http://www.octranspo.com/ready4rail/contest
     
     
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Good Day...

One for the record to take note of.....
Maclean's on one public art(ist) and his work elsewhere

http://www.macleans.ca/culture/the-artis...sco-has-a-200000-piece-coming-to-ottawa/

Like... !WOW! ...this is our money ? going going gone....for ?what?
     
     
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Good Day...

One for the record to take note of.....
Maclean's on one public art(ist) and his work elsewhere

http://www.macleans.ca/culture/the-artis...sco-has-a-200000-piece-coming-to-ottawa/

Like... !WOW! ...this is our money ? going going gone....for ?what?
And we're giving him more money than Calgary?

Even if the artist didn't steal those photos, that public art just 🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵. Black and white pictures with text over it, for $20,000 at that? His Toronto mural is amazing. I'd love to see some of that in Ottawa.
     
     
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Thank goodness that Trainy McTrainface is longer than 16 characters.

Name the Trains Contest
http://www.octranspo.com/ready4rail/contest
The name is already taken by the Swedes

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/j...oatface-legacy-lives-on-in-swedish-train

Also, why are we naming trains? There is no precedent in Canada for that, naming route yes, but individual trains, no.
     
     
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The name is already taken by the Swedes]Also, why are we naming trains? There is no precedent in Canada for that, naming route yes, but individual trains, no.
It's cheap publicity for a transit system that risks being underused in Phase 1.
     
     
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It's cheap publicity for a transit system that risks being underused in Phase 1.
It won't be underused. It will be replacing all of the buses running up and down Albert and Slater streets and currently over 10,000 people per hour take buses along those streets in each direction during peak periods. So unless those people find an alternate mode of transport, it is pretty much guaranteed to be successful (on day 1 the Confederation Line will have a capacity of 10,700 passengers per hour, each way).

I don't think anyone is expecting a big spike in ridership. In fact, if there is, it would cause problems as they don't have the initial capacity for that (though there is lots of room to grow).
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 30, 2017, 5:42 PM
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I doubt the Confederation Line will result in a noticeable increase in ridership right away, rather, I think it will result in higher annual ridership growth (or lower ridership decline, if that keeps happening) than would otherwise exist without it. 10 years in the future, the system will probably have quite a few more riders than it would have, had we not built anything at all.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 30, 2017, 6:11 PM
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(or lower ridership decline, if that keeps happening)
Interesting, yet nationally the number of people taking transit (and cycling) to work has increased over the past two decades and the number of people driving has decreased.

Census 2016: Spike in number of Canadians cycling, taking public transit to work
     
     
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