YVR Airport & Sea Island Developments Discussion

[Marshal]

That's a significant expansion of the main parkade - yes?

[SFUVancouver]

Originally Posted by mezzanine

New blog posts about upcoming construction at YVR.
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Wow, that's a major expansion planned for the structured parking. I'm glad to see it on the books.

[connect2source]

Originally Posted by mezzanine

the short term expansion also notes a new covered walkway that sounds like it will avoid pedestrian interaction with arrivals car traffic. (the red branch-like structure on the lower right)

Also glad to see the parkade expanded, seems so small for an airport the size of YVR, also I hope the expansion allows for access from one level to another for cars, the present design does not. Also what's the long grey rectangular building to the south of the parkade? Is that an Pier A extension? ...looks huge!

[SpongeG]

why would they have a walkway to that pier a? will it have its own check ins, security and baggage pick up etc?

[casper]

Originally Posted by SpongeG

why would they have a walkway to that pier a? will it have its own check ins, security and baggage pick up etc?

Security and Baggage pickup is probably not needed. Security for pier A is at the far south end of the current domestic terminal. If they need to build an expansion on the A pier might as well have some landside space that could be used for check in counters if they become required in the future.

The layout that Air Canada and WestJet has for domestic checkin takes up a lot of space. Mighty as well have some options available if these low-cost airlines start to come to life. If it is not needed, given it is land side it could be used for office space or commercial of some sort.

[LeftCoaster]

Originally Posted by mezzanine

the short term expansion also notes a new covered walkway that sounds like it will avoid pedestrian interaction with arrivals car traffic.[/IMG]

Good, as nice as it is that YVR tried to keep pedestrians and cars in teh same realm it is really getting too busy to keep mixing the two. It's often quite difficult to get cars through the arrivals level (and even the departures) with the at grade crossings.

Originally Posted by SFUVancouver

Wow, that's a major expansion planned for the structured parking. I'm glad to see it on the books.

Indeed it is, looks to be 50% larger than the existing. parkade.

[LeftCoaster]

September stats are out, international staying very strong but domestic weighing things down like an anvil:

http://www.yvr.ca/-/media/yvr/documents/.../traffic-update-september-2017.pdf?la=en

Domestic up 3.0%
International up 10.3%

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Total pax count up 6.6% and over 131,384 compared to September 2016.

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Int'l breakdown by sector:

Transborder up 7.6%
Asia Pacific up 14.5%
Europe up 5.2%
Misc Int'l up 53.3%

As usual there's always something strange with the numbers and this month seems to be charter. According to YVR scheduled traffic is actually down a whopping 9.5% but charter is up 508%. Clearly this can't be the case as I don't think I know of any major moves in the charter game. I'm hoping for some errors in the numbers and the domestic comes up a bit but my guess is the totals are correct and it's just a classification error or anomaly.

This drops YVR's year to date to 8.1%, just staying a bit above that 7.5% I expected the year to end out at. Hope we can hang on!

[Johnny Aussie]

Originally Posted by LeftCoaster

September stats are out, international staying very strong but domestic weighing things down like an anvil:

http://www.yvr.ca/-/media/yvr/documents/.../traffic-update-september-2017.pdf?la=en

Domestic up 3.0%
International up 10.3%

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Total pax count up 6.6% and over 131,384 compared to September 2016.

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Int'l breakdown by sector:

Transborder up 7.6%
Asia Pacific up 14.5%
Europe up 5.2%
Misc Int'l up 53.3%

As usual there's always something strange with the numbers and this month seems to be charter. According to YVR scheduled traffic is actually down a whopping 9.5% but charter is up 508%. Clearly this can't be the case as I don't think I know of any major moves in the charter game. I'm hoping for some errors in the numbers and the domestic comes up a bit but my guess is the totals are correct and it's just a classification error or anomaly.

This drops YVR's year to date to 8.1%, just staying a bit above that 7.5% I expected the year to end out at. Hope we can hang on!

I’d say that’s still excellent growth! Don’t forget too that with the large increases observed over the last two years, the base is that much higher so % increases don’t necessarily paint the whole picture. The fact YVR saw 131,000 more pax in Sept 2017 vs Sept 2016 is amazing. Especially when compared to most other airports in Canada and especially Western Canada.

Another stellar month for cargo too.

Domestic is the blatant error. Probably a simple formula error that wasn’t picked up. I would email them and let them know. Transborder and Misc Int’l too.

[libtard]

I could have sworn that area south of templeton station was planned for a business park and hotel development. I even remember seeing renders

[jollyburger]

Yes it was a thing back in 2012 or so.



Credit: https://www.btnews.co.uk/article/2648

[zahav]

The corrected stats are now posted. I had reported it to YVR and this was the response I got:

Thank you for bringing this to our attention. A few airlines mistakenly defaulted to charter when reporting passenger numbers. It’s all fixed and updated on our website.

[libtard]

Originally Posted by jollyburger

Yes it was a thing back in 2012 or so.



Credit: https://www.btnews.co.uk/article/2648

Very cool idea but it would involve extensive changes to Grand McConachy Way and Templeton Road. On closer inspection this will never happen

[jollyburger]

Originally Posted by libtard

Very cool idea but it would involve extensive changes to Grand McConachy Way and Templeton Road. On closer inspection this will never happen

I think they're still talking about it but not in that form. The other one is between the Dinsmore Bridge and BCIT.

https://www.richmond.ca/__shared/assets/...YVR_2037_Master_Plan_PLN_06061747568.pdf

[zahav]

I mentioned this before on this forum, but I still don't know why they don't build another airport hotel on top of the new parkade. Something like a Hampton Inn, or more affordable option. The Fairmont is a luxury property and will always have a market, but they should have something more mid-range on site too. Above a parkade would be the best place, since it's just un-used air space. The Fairmont is not a viable option for most people, the rates are really high.

[Alpine]

Originally Posted by Alpine

I wonder how long it'll be before we see all of the main Vancouver-China services (AC29/30, CA992/991, AC25/26, MU582/581, MU598/597, CZ330/329) upgauge to 77W.

Well, speak of the devil. AC expanding from 789s to 77Ws for YVR-PVG in S18.

http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airl...s18-vancouver-shanghai-aircraft-changes/

Still holding out for that CZ 388 service to YVR...someday...

[osirisboy]

Does s18 mean summer or spring? This thread with abbreviating everything!

[SpongeG]

this is pretty cool, its weird that you can watch your flight from outside the plane

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[vancouverer]

New Design of Terminal 3?

from Tranhttp://www.westca.com/News/article/sid=6...BF%E8%A6%81%E6%B6%A8_/lang=schinese.htmlslink info

[Orcair]

Originally Posted by vancouverer

New Design of Terminal 3?

I don't think that's part of the short-term plans to expand each pier individually, but I have seen that design before as part of YVR's long-term plans. Since they promote the single terminal so much, I would imagine it will still be connected post-security too and called DTB (same as now). IIRC, the new pier will mostly be transborder flights.

[trofirhen]

Originally Posted by Orcair

I don't think that's part of the short-term plans to expand each pier individually, but I have seen that design before as part of YVR's long-term plans. Since they promote the single terminal so much, I would imagine it will still be connected post-security too and called DTB (same as now). IIRC, the new pier will mostly be transborder flights.

As I understand, having looked at terminal plan variations in past years, the design here is the "east" option, with a large portion extending out and up eastwards; not the "central" option.
There were several options -as we've all seen - and this would have been one with a large Transborder terminal area, abandoned in favour of extending the existing piers incrementally.