AUSTIN | Project Updates Thread Part II - Page 223

Sigaven · #**4441** Posted **Oct 30, 2017, 3:02 PM**

Can someone fill me in on Nate Paul? What's his deal? (forgive my ignorance)

MichaelB · #**4442** Posted **Oct 30, 2017, 4:56 PM**

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Originally Posted by Sigaven

Can someone fill me in on Nate Paul? What's his deal? (forgive my ignorance)

the Statesman article linked above and a good amount of info!

Sigaven · #**4443** Posted **Oct 30, 2017, 6:25 PM**

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Originally Posted by MichaelB

the Statesman article linked above and a good amount of info!

I read the article but I don't see why everyone's disappointed

Jdawgboy · #**4444** Posted **Oct 31, 2017, 3:26 AM**

Found this article that I hadn't seen before.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.for...estate-empire/

paul78701 · #**4445** Posted **Oct 31, 2017, 1:30 PM**

New report declares Austin No. 1 fastest changing city in U.S.

http://austin.culturemap.com/news/ci...mpaign=website

eskimo33 · #**4446** Posted **Oct 31, 2017, 6:02 PM**

I recently spoke with an acquaintance about what is happening with the old Jack in the Box on South Lamar and Barton Springs (1200 Barton Springs Rd). It seems like it has been sitting there gutted for almost nine months and I was curious when it was going to become more than a graffiti magnet and homeless hangout.

Starbucks has acquired the rights to the property. (Not sure if it was leased or bought, I imagined leased) While they were in the midst of the remodel, they found unknown fire damage from a previously unreported fire. The amount of money it would take to fix the fire damage, plus the price of the original remodel ran afoul of the city's rules for building in the floodplain(they would now have to bring it up to code, and more than likely get a city council variance). So, Starbucks is suing the previous owners. I imagine they are trying to null their lease, recoup some costs and who knows what else.

I figured with it being such a prominent intersection, you guys might be interested.

Sigaven · #**4447** Posted **Oct 31, 2017, 7:27 PM**

Hopefully they'll bulldoze the building and build something a little better suited to such a prominent intersection than a freaking starbucks.

MichaelB · #**4448** Posted **Oct 31, 2017, 8:14 PM**

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Originally Posted by eskimo33

I recently spoke with an acquaintance about what is happening with the old Jack in the Box on South Lamar and Barton Springs (1200 Barton Springs Rd). It seems like it has been sitting there gutted for almost nine months and I was curious when it was going to become more than a graffiti magnet and homeless hangout.

Starbucks has acquired the rights to the property. (Not sure if it was leased or bought, I imagined leased) While they were in the midst of the remodel, they found unknown fire damage from a previously unreported fire. The amount of money it would take to fix the fire damage, plus the price of the original remodel ran afoul of the city's rules for building in the floodplain(they would now have to bring it up to code, and more than likely get a city council variance). So, Starbucks is suing the previous owners. I imagine they are trying to null their lease, recoup some costs and who knows what else.

I figured with it being such a prominent intersection, you guys might be interested.

So hears what I head.... LOL>..... I know this can be a fun game.
This info was from the guy who was to be manager of that location.
He said it had to do with old gas station takes still under the property. It was not disclosed in the deal. Starbucks was not will to do what was now required to remove them..... so they are getting out of it. !!!!
So.... who's gonna do the research to see if that was an old gas station?

And yes.... that property could be put to much better use. !

IluvATX · #**4449** Posted **Nov 1, 2017, 5:12 PM**

It would be awesome to see all the UC and proposed tower renderings in a poster/collage like those project posters we used to see.

Sigaven · #**4450** Posted **Nov 1, 2017, 7:40 PM**

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It would be awesome to see all the UC and proposed tower renderings in a poster/collage like those project posters we used to see.

i agree...anyone with photoshop skills have some free time?

KevinFromTexas · #**4451** Posted **Nov 2, 2017, 5:23 AM**

They posted something today to the AULCC website about a project at 410 West 18th Street called "410 Uptown"

ftp://ftp.ci.austin.tx.us/ATD_AULCC/...town_PLANS.pdf

They also had a permit from last year to demolish the ~6,000 square foot building at that location.
https://abc.austintexas.gov/web/perm...ertyrsn=238208

The ATX · #**4452** Posted **Nov 2, 2017, 5:55 AM**

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Originally Posted by KevinFromTexas

They posted something today to the AULCC website about a project at 410 West 18th Street called "410 Uptown"

ftp://ftp.ci.austin.tx.us/ATD_AULCC/...town_PLANS.pdf

They also had a permit from last year to demolish the ~6,000 square foot building at that location.
https://abc.austintexas.gov/web/perm...ertyrsn=238208

There are no CVCs in that area, so it could probably be rezoned for something tall similar to "Sky Austin". I suspect the current zoning is 120' at best.

The ATX · #**4453** Posted **Nov 2, 2017, 1:27 PM**

The description of 410 Uptown in the AULCC meeting notes sounds positive:

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The 410 Uptown project proposes the demolition of existing surface parking and building, construction of a new high-rise office building with ground floor retail and utilities. The project is located at the northeast corner of W 18th Street and San Antonio Street...

ftp://ftp.ci.austin.tx.us/ATD_AULCC/AULCC_2017/171116/

AustinGoesVertical · #**4454** Posted **Nov 2, 2017, 1:29 PM**

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Originally Posted by The ATX

There are no CVCs in that area, so it could probably be rezoned for something tall similar to "Sky Austin". I suspect the current zoning is 120' at best.

This could be a game changer to making that area more mixed-use. ~ 16 stories, 197,756 SQ FT of Class A office space.

http://www.410uptown.com/home.php

The ATX · #**4455** Posted **Nov 2, 2017, 1:32 PM**

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Originally Posted by AustinGoesVertical

This could be a game changer to making that area more mixed-use. ~ 16 stories, 197,756 SQ FT of Class A office space.

http://www.410uptown.com/home.php

Here's the rendering from your link. There's plenty of room in this corner of downtown for development with no CVCs. It just needs to be rezoned as CBD.

The ATX · #**4456** Posted **Nov 2, 2017, 1:50 PM**

Here's another rendering from the marketing brochure at AustinGoesVertical's link:

And here's a rendering on what looks like a foggy day. It won't be too far from the Marriott AC & Autograph Hotel.

Brochure:
http://www.410uptown.com/images/prop...Brochure_1.pdf

MichaelB · #**4457** Posted **Nov 2, 2017, 2:31 PM**

its really a a shame the current building could not be repurposed. It's a really cool warehouse and offices that use to be a plumbing business. Its has a great back courtyard.
Would have been a cool "AGBG" or something like that.
Missed opportunity for a great spot to replace Dog and Duck in this area.

Full disclosure : Yes....it also kills some of my remaining view of the green of the hills.
I'll make sure to document as it happens.
IT IS A RISK YOU TAKE DOWNTOWN.... I fully understand that.
I know so many of you on here have little to no empathy for views going away.
It's a shame really. Maybe one day that will be you and your "view" will change. ( see what I did there?!)

So for those of us who where downtown pioneers and not just observers....I continue to hope for a unique urban combination of high and low development that defies the need of tall for tall's sake. It's why I fight for the warehouse district. It's why I fight for Rainey to not be all high-rise.

Back to the neighborhood: We know that the block bounded by 17/18/SA and Guadalupe will be a very tall full block..( a Dallas developer owns it and is waiting for right move) It would have been a better balance to the houses to the west ( zoning changes at SA st.) To have kept the cool 40s warehouse as a restaurant / bar. A far more interesting use, reuse, texture...vibe.

Things I'm happy about: it wasn't cheap ass Student housing like at 18t and Grad. That's better for property value.
It will have ground level retail... that's good for the hood. It's not totally ugly. Part of the new generic.... but not ugly.
Office space in this area ( along with the new Marriott) pushes back against the University and student intrusion across the CBD line.
Those are all positives.

But hey, what do I know.... I only live in the neighborhood and invested here.

chinchaaa · #**4458** Posted **Nov 2, 2017, 6:10 PM**

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Originally Posted by MichaelB

its really a a shame the current building could not be repurposed. It's a really cool warehouse and offices that use to be a plumbing business. Its has a great back courtyard.
Would have been a cool "AGBG" or something like that.
Missed opportunity for a great spot to replace Dog and Duck in this area.

I fully agree! I live the block over and I've always envisioned it being a really cool bar. You could enter through the garage door and enter a huge outdoor area with tables and games. Shame it's just going to get torn down.

MichaelB · #**4459** Posted **Nov 2, 2017, 6:16 PM**

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Originally Posted by chinchaaa

I fully agree! I live the block over and I've always envisioned it being a really cool bar. You could enter through the garage door and enter a huge outdoor area with tables and games. Shame it's just going to get torn down.

YES!!! Exactly. Bar In back...... ! Restaurant up front!
I truly thought about writing ABGB folks several times and telling them to get there ass up here!

KevinFromTexas · #**4460** Posted **Nov 2, 2017, 6:24 PM**

Hmm, that design is very so-so. It just looks generic to me. Not that it looks bad really, but I can think of a handful of buildings that resemble it. 5th & Colorado, IBC Bank Plaza. It just looks suburban. That "foggy" rendering makes it look like it would be more at home in the Domain than in downtown. I'm not even into the idea of much more height in that area of downtown - I think ~200 to 250 feet is fine, but I would hope the designs step it up a little since it tends to be kind of a meh area architecturally. There are a few standouts there (notably the Cambridge Tower, but most are just big brown boxes. I just think that area of downtown could use some help in creating a style of its own distinct from the rest of downtown.