Confederation Line (Stage 1) | In Service 1.0

[MarkR]

Let's all be glad this never got built:

[lrt's friend]

Agreed! It is this kind of thing that wrecked many American cities.

[kmcamp]

Originally Posted by MarkR

Let's all be glad this never got built:

Wow.... Given how cities like Rochester are trying to undo stuff like this now we definitely dodged a bullet

[Uhuniau]

Originally Posted by lrt's friend

5 km makes it very easy to cover wide parts of the city.

More importantly, 5km makes it very easy to put a pretty-sounding but meangingless soundbite in the mouth of Watson and Manconi.

[Catenary]

Originally Posted by Uhuniau

No, there is not lots of standing room downstairs. And you are not supposed to use the stairs while the bus is in motion.

It should be noted that the ban on using the stairs while the bus is moving was removed shortly after the double deckers were significantly introduced in 2013.

I'm pleased to see OC continuing to run DDs on weekends, which was discontinued in the fall 2016 booking. They're a great sightseeing/tourist attraction at no cost, a marketing tool, and they familiarize a wider portion of the population with the etiquette required. The large doors also load/unload quickly.

[kevinbottawa]

The sidewalk where the LRT hole used to be is now open but now they've started digging on the other side of the street. Anyone know what the new dig is about?

[Kitchissippi]

Probably just redoing some of the utilities, especially the ones they quickly patched up after the sinkhole incident.

[swimmer_spe]

Originally Posted by MarkR

Let's all be glad this never got built:

Originally Posted by lrt's friend

Agreed! It is this kind of thing that wrecked many American cities.

Originally Posted by kmcamp

Wow.... Given how cities like Rochester are trying to undo stuff like this now we definitely dodged a bullet

To be honest, maybe a massive 12+ lane highway was and is a bad idea, but a 6 lane highway connecting 417 to A5 is something that should exist.

[kmcamp]

Originally Posted by swimmer_spe

To be honest, maybe a massive 12+ lane highway was and is a bad idea, but a 6 lane highway connecting 417 to A5 is something that should exist.

The "truck tunnel" is actually a good idea in this case, funnelling all the traffic between the 417 and A5 away from downtown.

[swimmer_spe]

Originally Posted by kmcamp

The "truck tunnel" is actually a good idea in this case, funnelling all the traffic between the 417 and A5 away from downtown.

It is less than 3 km

[roger1818]

Construction Update
Week of OCTOBER 19, 2017

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At Parliament Station, current work focuses on waterproofing for the roof slab and the next phase of forming for the tunnel adit, while over at the East Portal, crews continue to install rebar and pour concrete for the starter walls of the cut and cover tunnel. At Tremblay Station, crews finalize the waterproofing of the concourse area and complete the windscreen posts.

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Progress of construction at Pimisi Station 2017-10-02

West Stations

Tunney’s Pasture Station
Structural steel installation is set to be completed over the next week, for the overhead canopy. Mechanical and electrical works are ongoing. Other activities focus on the curbs, the escalator pit, and the sprinkler and heat tracing systems.

Bayview Station
Platform steel will be completed soon. Painting of steel continues and plaza concrete work continues. Other work focuses on completion of the electrical room and electrical work in the concourse area. Crews are also mobilizing to complete elevator installations.

Pimisi Station
Precast-concrete installation at stairways in the station continues. Porcelain panels are going up at the platform and intumescent painting is progressing. Escalators are being readied for service. A high voltage switch is set to be delivered in two weeks in anticipation of permanent power being established in early November.

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Construction is ongoing at Lyon Station concourse

Central Stations

Lyon Station cavern
Crews continue to form curbs at the stairway openings following the installation of glazing posts. Concrete patching begins at the west entrance of the cavern and fire protection, HVAC, plumping, and electrical utility work all progress. The elevator takes shape with glazing post installation and painting.

Lyon Station west entrance
Queen and Bay Street north side civil and road work continues this week. Crews allocate resources to complete work on the TVS with concrete works such reinforcing steel, formwork and concrete pours for the walls.

Lyon Station east entrance
Crews allocate resources to complete the TVS with concrete works such as formwork and concrete pours for the walls.

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Progress of construction at Parliament Station concourse 2017-10-02

Parliament Station cavern
The first stage of elevator rough-ins are delivered this week alongside rough-ins taking place for the upper mezzanine. At the concourse level, the central wall for the concourse takes shape with forming, and stair installation progresses with railing installation at certain stairways.

Parliament Station west entrance
The north and south walls progress; forming takes place for the north wall with pours occurring at the end of the week and rebar installation occurs for the south wall with forming occurring at the end of the week.

Parliament Station east entrance
Construction is ongoing at the station and includes waterproofing for the roof slab and the next phase of forming for the tunnel adit. Next week, backfilling and adit wall pours will begin.

Rideau Station cavern
The next phase of rebar and formwork begins for the station’s headwall this week, along with conduit and plumbing installations for the concourse slabs. In the running tunnel, rebar installation continues for the invert slab, arch pours progress and shotcrete continues for the transition.

Rideau Station west entrance
Crews are busy at the west entrance; partial stripping of the arch has taken place, roof slab falsework is to occur at the end of the week, the slab deck reshoring begins to be removed and backfilling concludes.

Rideau Station east entrance
Concrete works ramp up this week with partial stripping of the arch, rebar installs and installation of falsework and concrete pours for the roof slab. Crews continue with insulation for the HVAC and mezzanine rooms and electrical work in the TPSS room.

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Porcelain panel installation at uOttawa Station

East Portal
CThis week at the East Portal, crews continue to install rebar and pour concrete for the starter walls of the cut and cover tunnel.

uOttawa Station
Current work focuses on completion of the station’s porcelain panel installations. At the concourse level, work is proceeding on the duct, plumbing, and fire protection systems. Construction of the pedestrian plaza is also progressing.

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Platform level concrete pours at Lees Station 2017-10-03

East Stations

Lees Station
Crews are working on completing the porcelain panels in the ancillary building. Concrete pours are taking place at the platform level. On the concourse and platform, steel and concrete crews will be finalizing the retaining wall. Mechanical testing is ongoing.

Hurdman Station
Excavating, grading and paving of Hurdman bus loop continues into mid-November. Framing on the south side of the station is progressing. There is also work on the mullions, or vertical partitions, for glass walls in the station. Elevator and escalator installation is ongoing.

Tremblay Station
Crews finalize the waterproofing of the concourse area and complete the windscreen posts. The interlock pavers in the canopy area are nearly complete. The snowmelts continue to progress, and there are two concrete pours scheduled to take place this week. As well, installation of the testing and commissioning equipment is ongoing.

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Ongoing construction at Cyrville Station 2017-10-03

St-Laurent Station
Crews work to complete the station’s tunnel ventilation system, including the fans and two overhead door panels. The coloured concrete around the fare gate is also being installed. The ongoing electrical work at the station includes the connections to the air handling unit and the condensing unit. Other ongoing work includes painting of windscreen posts and mullions.

Cyrville Station
Final grading is concluding. Other scheduled works includes completion of the topping platform. Outside the station, landscaping work will take place soon.

Blair Station
Landscaping is taking place north of the station. Completion of the bus loop and the bus operator building progresses. Other work focuses on the remaining stair posts and completion of glazing works.

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LRV testing east of Cyrville Station 2017-10-02

Guideway and Trackwork

Current trackwork focuses on the diamond crossover between Lyon to Parliament Station; the plinths at Tunney’s Pasture; tamping at Pimisi Station; and the track installation tie-in to the West Portal. In the eastern portion of the alignment, testing continues to move along and since October 3, both mainline eastbound and westbound tracks from TPSS 6 (near Tremblay) to uOttawa have been under testing and commissioning.

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Crews work on crossover track at Tunney's Pasture Station 2017-10-02

Upcoming Construction Activities

In the coming weeks, the following construction activities are scheduled to occur:

• Landscaping at Cyrville Station.
• Construction of the Rideau Station West TVS.
• Installation of lighting inside jersey barrier by uOttawa Station.
• uOttawa guideway sewer repairs.
• Construction to complete the West Portal and East Portal
• Systems installation along the guideway, including OCS poles and wires.
• Station elevators and escalators being readied for service at multiple stations.

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http://www.ligneconfederationline.ca/construction/construction-update-146/

[roger1818]

Originally Posted by lrt's friend

I think people do not want to do two transfers regardless of mode. Unfortunately, this is what we are creating because Ottawa's employment is quite decentralized.

Two transfers can be fine IF the wait time is small (either by having frequent, reliable service or by timing the transfers between routes appropriately).

For example, after stage 2, commuting to the DND Carling campus will require two transfers for many (bus to LRT and LRT to Bus). From what I have read, the LRT to Moodie will run at a maximum frequency of every 9 minutes (only 1 in 3 trains will go there in peak periods). If in the morning the shuttle bus to DND is scheduled to depart a couple minutes after the train arrives, the transfer will be quite painless. Similarly in the evening, if the shuttle bus from DND is scheduled to arrive a few minutes before the LRT departs, it will once again be a painless transfer.

[MoreTrains]

Originally Posted by roger1818

Two transfers can be fine IF the wait time is small (either by having frequent, reliable service or by timing the transfers between routes appropriately).

For example, after stage 2, commuting to the DND Carling campus will require two transfers for many (bus to LRT and LRT to Bus). From what I have read, the LRT to Moodie will run at a maximum frequency of every 9 minutes (only 1 in 3 trains will go there in peak periods). If in the morning the shuttle bus to DND is scheduled to depart a couple minutes after the train arrives, the transfer will be quite painless. Similarly in the evening, if the shuttle bus from DND is scheduled to arrive a few minutes before the LRT departs, it will once again be a painless transfer.

Being realistic though, the bus will depart Moodie as the LRT is pulling into the station meaning a +15 minute wait for the first year with Transpo wondering why they are getting so many timing complaints.

[roger1818]

Originally Posted by MoreTrains

Being realistic though, the bus will depart Moodie as the LRT is pulling into the station meaning a +15 minute wait for the first year with Transpo wondering why they are getting so many timing complaints.

Ya. The current 15 minute frequency won't work well once the LRT is extended to Moodie. Given that contraflow buses are dirt cheap to run and about 40% of its time is currently spent travelling from Tunnies Pasture to Bayshore, they could likely increase the frequency to every 9 minutes (about a 40% increase in frequency) with minimal additional cost. Alternately they could have half of the buses terminate at Carling Place and thus only have 18 minute service to Kanata on route 66 (the old 182).

[harls]

They've piled these rocks onto the track just past Parkdale, near the slope to Bayview. Anyone want to tell us why?


My Photo.

[kmcamp]

Originally Posted by harls

They've piled these rocks onto the track just past Parkdale, near the slope to Bayview. Anyone want to tell us why?


My Photo.

It's just the ballast. They'll come by with a machine that will settle all the gravel. They did the same ages ago on the eastern tracks

[roger1818]

Originally Posted by harls

They've piled these rocks onto the track just past Parkdale, near the slope to Bayview. Anyone want to tell us why?

It is called ballast and used to prevent the ties from shifting while still providing good drainage and keep down vegetation. It obviously hasn't been packed down yet.

Edit: Ninjaed.

[harls]

Originally Posted by roger1818

It is called ballast and used to prevent the ties from shifting while still providing good drainage and keep down vegetation. It obviously hasn't been packed down yet.

Ok, so why did they stop at the slope, are they going to continue adding the rocks all the way to Parkdale? Or is it just for the slope?

Not being an asshole, I have no idea how this works.. just curious.



(also my photo..)

[OCCheetos]

Originally Posted by harls

Ok, so why did they stop at the slope, are they going to continue adding the rocks all the way to Parkdale? Or is it just for the slope?

Not being an asshole, I have no idea how this works.. just curious.

(also my photo..)

Those tracks down in the ditch are attached to the ground differently. The ones further up the slope use the conventional method of using ballast to keep the ties from moving around (and therefore also the rails)

The tracks further down use a completely different attachment system where the rails are directly attached to the ground using those black things.

Someone should probably correct me, but I believe the reason they do that is to minimize vibrations caused by the trains (I know they use those in the tunnels, but these ones may be different).

[lrt's friend]

Originally Posted by roger1818

Two transfers can be fine IF the wait time is small (either by having frequent, reliable service or by timing the transfers between routes appropriately).

For example, after stage 2, commuting to the DND Carling campus will require two transfers for many (bus to LRT and LRT to Bus). From what I have read, the LRT to Moodie will run at a maximum frequency of every 9 minutes (only 1 in 3 trains will go there in peak periods). If in the morning the shuttle bus to DND is scheduled to depart a couple minutes after the train arrives, the transfer will be quite painless. Similarly in the evening, if the shuttle bus from DND is scheduled to arrive a few minutes before the LRT departs, it will once again be a painless transfer.

And on your return home, when your local bus in Orleans has a 15 or 20 or 30 minute frequency?