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Old Posted Oct 20, 2017, 12:21 AM
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At this point we don't even know how much, if any, tax breaks Amazon will end up getting. I'd be surprised if they went with a proposal that had none, but you never know. Maybe some city will have such a strong bid even without any tax breaks that Amazon goes for them even without the financial incentives.

Granted, I'm not expecting that, but as I said, you never know.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 20, 2017, 12:41 AM
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I highly doubt this will happen, but I found this lightly amusing. I actually laughed, it's such an exercise in futility.

From the LA Times:


Huntington Beach and Long Beach team up on a bid for Amazon’s HQ2


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Old Posted Oct 20, 2017, 12:49 AM
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Old Posted Oct 20, 2017, 1:07 AM
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Chris Christie on Monday announced the state and the city of Newark will offer a potential $7 billion in tax incentives over 10 years
Maybe this will finally push Newark to world-class status?

The poll for the Newark thread is disappointing.

1) 2 yes
2) 45 No
3) 11 think NYC is its only reason



This is lower than congresses approval rating, and thats really hard to do!
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 20, 2017, 2:14 AM
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I don't think Bezos will choose Boston. Who can live somewhere that has such crappy pizza?
Bad pizza=low productivity
Then that settles it, HQ2 should go to Whitesboro, NY because no one does better pizza than Tony’s.
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Old Posted Oct 20, 2017, 2:17 AM
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Based on the Cubs' performance against the Dodgers tonight, Bezos should bring Amazon to Chicago out of pity
     
     
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At this point we don't even know how much, if any, tax breaks Amazon will end up getting. I'd be surprised if they went with a proposal that had none, but you never know. Maybe some city will have such a strong bid even without any tax breaks that Amazon goes for them even without the financial incentives.

Granted, I'm not expecting that, but as I said, you never know.
Well, then maybe there'll be a winner from left field coast who will NOT be offering any perks:

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. . . do locals want Bay Area cities to court Amazon? As a former Amazon executive warned the San Francisco Chronicle, “Every city [...] should be careful what they ask for. If Amazon shows up with that many people, what is that going to do to the cost of real estate?”

Does San Francisco want yet another huge jobs project in the city? Do we need it? Should we demand housing concessions with it? Should we back another Bay Area city’s bid, or try to discourage it for fear that Amazon employees might come shopping for San Francisco homes in an already crowded market?
https://sf.curbed.com/2017/9/8/16276280/amazon-headquarters-san-francisco-sf

You guys offer them millions. We'll play hard to get and demand they build many millions worth of housing if they insist on coming here (which I will faint if they do).
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 20, 2017, 6:22 AM
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One variable is that Amazon wouldn't have to pay for their employee's health insurance if they moved to a Canadian city. Over the course of a decade or two that would amount to a huge "subsidy".
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 20, 2017, 6:48 AM
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No, the sanest thng to do is to importune your elected leaders NOT to give Bezos and/or Amazon a dime of taxpayer money for this project. But even if you avoid that debacle, it's quite likely your town (or neighborhod if it's already one of America's largest cities) will suffer growing pains:


https://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/news/2017/10/11/the-amazon-effect.html


https://www.wsj.com/articles/amazon-has-...-expertise-with-in-house-team-1508405401

But the winner will have to spend megabucks on infrastructure for all that Amazon imagines as well as handing over the keys to the treasury to Jeff.
I think people who live in places that have suffered from an unprecedented amount of shrinking pains would take growing pains any day.
     
     
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Boston style pizza?

Never heard of it?

My point exactly...
There's a lot of great pizza in Boston's North End.
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We all know who is getting it




Don't believe me ???

FIGHT ME
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Atlanta is getting it.

Hang it up, flat screen.
     
     
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Y'know I think I might feel sorry for the people at Amazon who have to sift through all these bids, score them and figure out which ones are the best. What a pain in the ass task! And you've got to read all kinds of chamber-of-commerce-y boosterism b.s. on all the proposals.
Haha yeah where does one start in this bid? Does page one read "____City, ____ State is a city in the ______ region of the United States..." or does the cover page establish this?
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 20, 2017, 1:16 PM
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No, the sanest thng to do is to importune your elected leaders NOT to give Bezos and/or Amazon a dime of taxpayer money for this project. But even if you avoid that debacle, it's quite likely your town (or neighborhod if it's already one of America's largest cities) will suffer growing pains:


https://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/news/2017/10/11/the-amazon-effect.html


https://www.wsj.com/articles/amazon-has-...-expertise-with-in-house-team-1508405401

But the winner will have to spend megabucks on infrastructure for all that Amazon imagines as well as handing over the keys to the treasury to Jeff.
That's great about not giving them more subsidies, but $1.24 billion is a half trillion dollars company, that is a tiny amount of subsidies compared to the overall size of it's business. I'm sure if you looked at any other similarly sized company you could identify a billion or more in tax breaks.
     
     
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An multi-billion dollar new terminal is under construction at LGA.

The best spot in NY is the HY or 2 WTC with an ancillary campus in Brooklyn and/or JC.
Long Island City is one of 4-5 proposed sites in NYC. In fact if they cover the rail yard like they did at Hudson Yard it could easily accommodate Amazon and a few others. Queens also checks all the box in term of transportation and accessibility with numerous subway lines and plethora of residential construction. Why people think NYC automatically means Manhattan is beyond me.
     
     
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I think the idea that Amazon would locate in NYC is pretty delusional...the geographical constraints and inability to build more rail/road links from Manhattan to Jersey are extremely important. Newark would be a perfect location (specifically Harrison, NJ), if it's going to be NY. Plus the cost of living, cost of doing business, etc.
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Boston style pizza?

Never heard of it?

My point exactly...


     
     
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I'm going to vote Tampa...

I just want something for the record to bump if I was right. 10/20/2017


...and if my wrong, I'll pretend as if this post never happened.
     
     
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