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Old Posted Oct 2, 2017, 8:01 PM
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Underground parking would be a good solution to that problem, but would be too expensive and would sacrifice quality in whatever gets built due to the need for an entrance.
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Old Posted Oct 2, 2017, 10:17 PM
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Underground parking would be a good solution to that problem, but would be too expensive and would sacrifice quality in whatever gets built due to the need for an entrance.
If they just add an area for an entrance, and exit on existing building plans then yes, otherwise they could easily make the entrance, and exit integrated into the building it looks less out of place, and more cohesive.

If that is what you mean when you see they would be sacrificing quality,
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Old Posted Oct 3, 2017, 12:27 AM
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the loss of 12-14 parking spaces will not just be completely negated, it will give the area more permanent residents who will support businesses beyond the 9-5 window.
The fact that local business owners may or may not understand this point boggles my mind.

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Underground parking would be a good solution to that problem, but would be too expensive and would sacrifice quality in whatever gets built due to the need for an entrance.
I imagine lot size and location within the Uptown would shut down the idea of adding underground parking almost immediately. You need big footprints to make underground feasible.
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Old Posted Oct 3, 2017, 1:30 PM
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With this particular building, too, it's worth noting its position on a steep hill. If they "retained" the lower level of parking, I'd expect its entrance would remain on the hill where it is presently, and the Canterbury face of the building would be all-pedestrian.

Even if they closed off the Grannan Street facing, that little driveway alley between it and Churchill's would remain, and they could maybe finnagle an entrance to the parking within there.
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Old Posted Oct 5, 2017, 8:50 PM
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Well, Energy East is officially dead. Not too big of a surprise, since the writing had been on the wall.

I'm not too disappointed. Locally, the permanent benefits of the project (barring any subsequent IOL investments, which were never guaranteed) would have been pretty small overall. Sure, growth in the city has been slower than we might like, but the incremental change in the Uptown has been phenomenal over the past few years, with more residential conversions and increased commercial/cultural vibrancy in the streets. This momentum built without the pipeline, and will continue without the pipeline.

But who cares about any of that - what's our next big economic panacea going to be??!
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Old Posted Oct 6, 2017, 11:14 AM
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Saint John....kicked in the head again.

With the cancelation of the Energy East pipeline, Saint John is kicked in the head again, by every level of Government. I hope the Liberal voters are happy about the loss of potential jobs, because Trudope has no clue.
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Old Posted Oct 6, 2017, 12:14 PM
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I hear the frustration over provincial gov treatment/ignoring of SJ's 30 year-- and continuing-- decline. But Energy East was never going to turn things around. Gov intervention and investments will you'd think. If the feds consolidated some social development offices here or a federal tidal power initiative here, we'd be better off.

Not more Irving control
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Old Posted Oct 6, 2017, 3:12 PM
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T4G is moving from Lancaster to Uptown in order to be closer to the tech and innovation cluster on the peninsula.
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Old Posted Oct 9, 2017, 9:13 PM
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WRT Energy East, I’m not surprised to see it crash; all the steam seemed to centre around western pipelines and the one to the US, Energy East was more of a cute idea by comparison.

The benefits to a project like this are mainly in construction; it creates a boom-bust scenario SJ is all too familiar with.

I used to be in favour of this proposal in the beginning, but since going solar, driving electric, and following the related news and trends, I see that in a relatively short period of time, the world will wean off fossil fuels, and make all of these piplines senseless to build, while the energy economy of the future is in renewables.
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Old Posted Oct 11, 2017, 4:03 PM
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T4G is moving from Lancaster to Uptown in order to be closer to the tech and innovation cluster on the peninsula.
Not until a buyer is found for the Lancaster Ave. building, though.

Source: I work there.
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Has the Irving Tower been topped out yet? From the West Side it looks as tall as Brunswick Square.
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Old Posted Oct 14, 2017, 1:10 AM
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The City is ramping up its lobbying of the provincial government on property tax reform.

There's an interesting report on municipal tax policy from the City Manager in next week's Council agenda (starting on page 84). It recommends the following:

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Resolved that:

1. Common Council requests that the Province vacate the levying of provincial property taxes to provide tax room for municipalities;

2. Common Council requests that the Province change legislation to provide municipalities control over setting tax classes and tax rates;

3. Common Council requests that the Province end the assessment freeze as quickly as possible;
This would be on top of a previous Council resolution pertaining to the taxation of machinery and equipment (currently exempt in NB):

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RESOLVED that Common Council make a request to the Province to remove machinery and equipment exemptions from the Provincial Property tax legislation. Furthermore, if the Province is unwilling to remove machinery and equipment exemptions from the Property Tax legislation, the Province provides a transfer payment to municipalities in lieu of lost municipal property tax revenues due to the exemptions put in place by the Province of New Brunswick.
The report analyzes the impact of two separate scenarios:

1. The elimination of provincial property tax levies (and with it, the unconditional grant), and additional flexibility for municipalities to set differential tax rates for different land uses (commercial, light industrial, heavy industrial).

2. In addition to the changes in Scenario 1, the inclusion of machinery and equipment in property tax levies.

In the first scenario, the City projects an additional $8 million in revenue that could be used to reduce the overall property tax rate - indeed, its proposed rate structure would reduce the tax burden on all classes except heavy industry.



Scenario 2 would be even more of a game changer:

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If machinery and equipment was fully assessed and taxed in Saint John, and assuming the value of machinery and equipment was between $1 and 2 Billion Dollars, the Property tax rates would be reduced significantly for all classes of customers. The residential rate could drop to between 0.934 and 1.187; commercial tax rate would range between 1.940 and 2.464; light industry would rates would range between 2.299 and 2.920; and Heavy Industrial rates would range between 2.963 and 3.763.


These are significant rate reductions and would immensely improve our competitiveness vis-a-vis the suburban communities. The catch, of course, is that under this scenario heavy industry carries a much higher tax burden. However, the distribution of tax burden would be comparable to that of Strathcona, AB, home to two oil refineries and where machinery and equipment is taxed.

Lots of other interesting numbers in the report, including comparative stats on tax base growth (ours is sluggish) and property tax burden-to-income ratios (ours is particularly bad considering the propensity of lower incomes along with a higher tax rate), as well as the top assessed properties in the city:



The realist in me is expecting a TJ editorial panning these proposed reforms tomorrow. I'm also expecting the province to probably ignore the City's requests in favour of the easier status quo. But I'm glad some analysis is now out there on these issues - better than having never looked into it at all.
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Old Posted Oct 15, 2017, 10:34 PM
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So then let us get out in the streets and show them the people will not accept the status quo. We can't expect the province to go along willingly
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'Scary' Saint John motel getting multimillion-dollar reno
New owners have high hopes for the future of the former Colonial Inn


http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/colonial-inn-sold-renovations-saint-john-1.4356202

What's old is new again... nice to see this kind of outside investment in the city!
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Old Posted Oct 17, 2017, 3:33 PM
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Also 125 Prince William Street finalized their sale this week to some investors from Halifax. Interesting times.
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Old Posted Oct 17, 2017, 4:12 PM
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The Scotsburn Plant across from Harbour Station was also sold recently.
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Old Posted Oct 17, 2017, 6:48 PM
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Great news about the colonial!!!
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Old Posted Oct 17, 2017, 9:11 PM
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'Scary' Saint John motel getting multimillion-dollar reno
New owners have high hopes for the future of the former Colonial Inn


http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/colonial-inn-sold-renovations-saint-john-1.4356202

What's old is new again... nice to see this kind of outside investment in the city!
Interesting - seems like word is getting out that we're a buyers' market right now.

Also of note in that story - the same new owners have also acquired the former Keddy's/Fort Howe Hotel/Howard Johnson/Canada's Best Value Inn and intend to renovate it into a "higher-end hotel". Nice to see some TLC being given to properties close to the core.

Council passed the recommendations in the taxation report unanimously last night. It remains to be seen how the province is going to respond, but it will be a difficult sell to get them to vacate levying their portion of the property tax. Perhaps it could be made an election issue?

To my surprise, I was wrong about the TJ - they put out an editorial today generally in support of the proposed reforms (though conveniently ignoring anything to do with machinery & equipment). It will be interesting to see how the heavy industrial players do respond if things actually start gaining traction.
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Old Posted Oct 18, 2017, 12:22 PM
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The Scotsburn Plant across from Harbour Station was also sold recently.
There are hotel developers looking at that site, which would be fantastic IMO, as it is on the south side of the freeway for better pedestrian access to the Uptown core and is also adjacent to Harbour Station.
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Old Posted Oct 18, 2017, 2:00 PM
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There are hotel developers looking at that site, which would be fantastic IMO, as it is on the south side of the freeway for better pedestrian access to the Uptown core and is also adjacent to Harbour Station.
I figured it would be something like this. I was hoping for a mix of commercial and retail with perhaps some covered parking to open up options for further surface parking removal around Harbour Station.

Station street can be redesigned quite easily to make it more pedestrian friendly and less of a thruway. City Road would benefit from something similar.
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