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[Roger Strong]

Spherical Image: True North Center
Camera: Ricoh Theta V
Taken by me today from the parkade to the north.

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[Andy6]

Interesting!

[esquire]

I was probably the one who launched speculation on the whole Chipman/Archdiocese connection and yes, it was total speculation on my part. But further to lilwayne's point, I don't think it's all that farfetched... you would think that Longboat (or whichever company is developing TNS) would want to prevent any neighbouring developments from having an adverse effect on TNS, and given the family's involvement with the church at a fairly high level, it's not hard to imagine that they'd also be broadly supportive of the Archdiocese's goals.

One way of doing that is to support the Archdiocese's project in a way that lends itself to a win-win outcome. Perhaps Longboat gets involved in such a way that leads to construction of church-owned buildings, as the odds of the project's success go up drastically with such an experienced developer in their corner. And as buzzg suggested, if those buildings end up being, say, only 6 storeys high and don't block any TNS views in the process, then all the better.

Obviously I defer to those who are in a place to categorically know one way or another whether or not the Chipmans are involved, but on the face of it, I'd say it's not entirely unlikely that they might be. There is a certain convergence of interests here.

[The Jabroni]

I got you, fam!

[Roger Strong]

Spherical Image: True North Center, taken yesterday.

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[trueviking]

Originally Posted by esquire

I was probably the one who launched speculation on the whole Chipman/Archdiocese connection and yes, it was total speculation on my part. But further to lilwayne's point, I don't think it's all that farfetched... you would think that Longboat (or whichever company is developing TNS) would want to prevent any neighbouring developments from having an adverse effect on TNS, and given the family's involvement with the church at a fairly high level, it's not hard to imagine that they'd also be broadly supportive of the Archdiocese's goals.

One way of doing that is to support the Archdiocese's project in a way that lends itself to a win-win outcome. Perhaps Longboat gets involved in such a way that leads to construction of church-owned buildings, as the odds of the project's success go up drastically with such an experienced developer in their corner. And as buzzg suggested, if those buildings end up being, say, only 6 storeys high and don't block any TNS views in the process, then all the better.

Obviously I defer to those who are in a place to categorically know one way or another whether or not the Chipmans are involved, but on the face of it, I'd say it's not entirely unlikely that they might be. There is a certain convergence of interests here.

Speculation is fine, but it has become accepted on this forum that just because it is next door Chipman is involved. Why would they not say they are involved? It may not be far fetched that they become involved, but it's also not far fetched to say they aren't...they were not when the renderings were released. Why would they be secretly part of it? Why wouldn't they use their name to build excitement and attract interest? They are not shy on publicity. If they were starting a third major block of development why not say they are?

Again. I have worked with this church in the past. I know who is driving this. They are the kind to throw a rendering in the air just to hope it sticks on something. Their process is not how real projects get done. You don't start with renderings. You start with who the money is.

Maybe the scheme attracts an investor but we can't treat it as real until someone does. Maybe Longboat decides to partner with the church but is crazy to assume they will just because we think they want control of the entire area. They didn't bother buying buildings on the same block as CentrePoint. They have a lot on their plate just trying to complete and fill TNS.

We can talk about the church thing, but until there is an announcement of a developer, let's not make our own conclusions.

[Urban recluse]

I'm not paying the church proposal heed until, as TV asserts, we hear from a developer.

[cheswick]

Originally Posted by esquire

I was probably the one who launched speculation on the whole Chipman/Archdiocese connection and yes, it was total speculation on my part. But further to lilwayne's point, I don't think it's all that farfetched... you would think that Longboat (or whichever company is developing TNS) would want to prevent any neighbouring developments from having an adverse effect on TNS, and given the family's involvement with the church at a fairly high level, it's not hard to imagine that they'd also be broadly supportive of the Archdiocese's goals.

No, most recently it was from buzzg on Oct 2. And the way it was stated, it was more than speculation:

Originally Posted by buzzg

I got word from someone quite close to the operation that TNS will include a 5th tower, likely to be announced by spring, if not sooner. He said he had every indication that this will be the rumoured new Catholic church building, and that it will be an official part of TNS, with TN fully involved in development.

This could help explain why Tower 1 ended up being built right up to the church property, and also why the raised "patio" area at the SW corner of plaza is open to the church property... Could easily be integrated/connected to the new Tower FIVE.

So excited to see what this could become.

[bomberjet]

Sorry for spreading rumours folks. I must've misunderstood.

[bomberjet]

Thanks for the photos Roger! You'll need to get in the square and take another 360 once complete!!

[Roger Strong]

Originally Posted by bomberjet

Thanks for the photos Roger! You'll need to get in the square and take another 360 once complete!!

You're welcome!

That was my first experiment with spherical images. Looking at the results I learned a lot for my next outing.

Taking a spherical image is like taking an x-ray, in that after setting up the shot you look for something to step behind before taking the picture. I took pictures of the site from a bunch of other directions, but I wasn't able to remove myself from those. Perhaps with an image editor.

The "before" shots for SkyCity haven't been updated in years. I might wander by and take a spherical "before" shot. And in a few years an 8K resolution spherical "before" shot. And a holographic "before" shot a few years after that.

[CoryB]

Originally Posted by Roger Strong

And a holographic "before" shot a few years after that.

Any chance you create a holographic model of the SkyCity Centre and have it projected life size onto the site?

[Roger Strong]

Originally Posted by CoryB

Any chance you create a holographic model of the SkyCity Centre and have it projected life size onto the site?

To keep it realistic I'd have to project an image of a big hole in the ground for eight years.

This also simulates the investor experience.

[Wpg_Guy]

[Stryfe]

Lots of glass!

[bomberjet]

I like the fins the put on the glass within the square. I assume this is a sun shade. Or just looks cool haha

[bomberjet]

A couple photos as the tower is now out of cam's view. Forming columns on the 17th floor to support the roof. Not sure what type of mechanicals levels are above. The top floor is noticeably taller than the previous floors.

[Roger Strong]

Originally Posted by bomberjet

A couple photos as the tower is now out of cam's view.

Thanks!

I wonder of the glass installed on the south side implies an upper limit to the height of whatever gets added to the church property.

[Wpg_Guy]

Originally Posted by trueviking

That chipman involvement in the church site was a fabrication of this web site...I believe the connection was chipman goes to church.

i'm not reading into this much but In the initial video presentation they had a the cathedral site highlighted as part of the development. Seems as though a sliver of TNS was supposed to spill over onto that site.

[buzzg]

Originally Posted by bomberjet

I like the fins the put on the glass within the square. I assume this is a sun shade. Or just looks cool haha

I've been wondering if these "fins" actually serve a purpose or if it's a style trend because they seem to be popping up on every new build/renovation. IMO the ones on the new PSB kind of look bad because from a distance you don't even see the glass.

Would have been cool if they went with the ones in the original render that gradually transitioned from red to yellow.

Originally Posted by WpG_GuY

i'm not reading into this much but In the initial video presentation they had a the cathedral site highlighted as part of the development. Seems as though a sliver of TNS was supposed to spill over onto that site.

To be fair, those are the initial renders and the current ones on the website don't show that. Appears to just be another entrance to the skywalk level, likely not worth it for the church to give up their parking lot for that lol. Probably just there in this case to make the render look better.