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Old Posted Oct 16, 2017, 4:27 PM
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Also, here is some ouija board and tea-leaf reading saying that Philly and Austin are the 2 top contenders for Amazon:
https://www.bisnow.com/national/news/off...usiness-and-phillys-great-location-80273
Obviously glad for the press. But what's interesting about this particular analysis is that it doesn't define how the data points are calculated. I mean, it says Portland scores the highest in Transportation (above NYC even) and NYC has the highest score for quality of life.

Seriously?

Point being, these things always reflect the biases of the authors more than anything else.

In short. The author thinks it should go to Austin, because that's what everyone is supposed to believe and that's where pop culture would suggest it goes. But the statistics, if they were done honestly, would show Philly as a clear favorite. But instead, they probably got that result and said, NO. How can we tweak this. So they go back and massage arbitrary metrics like "quality of life" to make Philly come out worse.

Also, Atlanta has the second highest score for Human Capital? No.

Anyways. I like our chances a lot.

I think Austin is eliminated based on lack of transportation and the lack of will to solve the problem. Texas might be super business friendly, but Austin is already a sprawling gridlocked city without meaningful public transportation. This will only make it worse. And it's almost as expensive as Seattle as is.

I really think the two top contenders are us and Atlanta. They're two very different choices and culturally two very different places, but they meet most of the requirements. We meet them in a more genuine way, but Atlanta has made some meaning progress toward fixing their shortfalls where they exist (in terms of transportation, etc). It's still congested AF there though.
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Old Posted Oct 16, 2017, 4:42 PM
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Obviously glad for the press. But what's interesting about this particular analysis is that it doesn't define how the data points are calculated. I mean, it says Portland scores the highest in Transportation (above NYC even) and NYC has the highest score for quality of life.

Seriously?

Point being, these things always reflect the biases of the authors more than anything else.

In short. The author thinks it should go to Austin, because that's what everyone is supposed to believe and that's where pop culture would suggest it goes. But the statistics, if they were done honestly, would show Philly as a clear favorite. But instead, they probably got that result and said, NO. How can we tweak this. So they go back and massage arbitrary metrics like "quality of life" to make Philly come out worse.

Also, Atlanta has the second highest score for Human Capital? No.

Anyways. I like our chances a lot.

I think Austin is eliminated based on lack of transportation and the lack of will to solve the problem. Texas might be super business friendly, but Austin is already a sprawling gridlocked city without meaningful public transportation. This will only make it worse. And it's almost as expensive as Seattle as is.

I really think the two top contenders are us and Atlanta. They're two very different choices and culturally two very different places, but they meet most of the requirements. We meet them in a more genuine way, but Atlanta has made some meaning progress toward fixing their shortfalls where they exist (in terms of transportation, etc). It's still congested AF there though.
The Moody's Analytics chief economist, Mark Zandi, also wrote a piece for the Inquirer stating that Amazon should build in Philly. http://www.philly.com/philly/business/amazon-philly-its-just-good-business-for-both-20170922.html

So if there was any bias in this analysis, it was probably in Philly's favor.
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Old Posted Oct 16, 2017, 6:50 PM
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Also, here is some ouija board and tea-leaf reading saying that Philly and Austin are the 2 top contenders for Amazon:
https://www.bisnow.com/national/news/off...usiness-and-phillys-great-location-80273
Sources say Amazon has been in discussions to buy Millville Corporate Airport. Leading to speculation that NJ , South Jersey + Camden may be a legitmate candidate.

This is a situation where Philadlehias complex regional structure really does it no favors. You have 1 region divided into 3 seperate states(Pa-NJ-De) competing for the same prize and NJ and De capital cities are much closer to Philadlephia than its own state capital.
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Old Posted Oct 16, 2017, 7:23 PM
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The Duke of York and William Penn now accepting complaints regarding the division of the region between three colonies.

I'm not sure how Millville would betoken anything beyond a distribution center.
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Old Posted Oct 16, 2017, 7:38 PM
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The deadline for submission is Thursday. Has Amazon given any indication of when they will make a decision?
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The deadline for submission is Thursday. Has Amazon given any indication of when they will make a decision?
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Old Posted Oct 16, 2017, 7:45 PM
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Business Insider's "Craziest" proposals for Amazon. Not sure why they call ours that, but it's the headline image of this article.
http://www.businessinsider.com/amazon-headquarters-city-proposals-hq2-2017-10
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Business Insider's "Craziest" proposals for Amazon. Not sure why they call ours that, but it's the headline image of this article.
http://www.businessinsider.com/amazon-headquarters-city-proposals-hq2-2017-10
Maybe they mean "crazy good"? Other than that, there's absolutely NO reason for Philly to be on that list.
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Old Posted Oct 16, 2017, 8:19 PM
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Yeah, but at what time?
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Old Posted Oct 16, 2017, 8:20 PM
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Maybe they mean "crazy good"? Other than that, there's absolutely NO reason for Philly to be on that list.
It's just a clickbait headline, there's nothing "crazy" about any of those things, other than the no-name city that said it would rename itself Amazon.
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Old Posted Oct 16, 2017, 8:39 PM
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It's just a clickbait headline, there's nothing "crazy" about any of those things, other than the no-name city that said it would rename itself Amazon.
I thought the bullet train station development in Dallas was a bit out there.
More to the point, it lists 2 Dallas proposals and 3 Philly proposals, when we know that the final proposals will only have one per city. So this article jumps the 🞵🞵🞵 a bit, but I thought it was interesting to see what other cities are considering.
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Old Posted Oct 16, 2017, 8:53 PM
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The deadline for submission is Thursday. Has Amazon given any indication of when they will make a decision?
Some time in 2018 according to the RFP.

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/G/01/Anything/test/images/usa/RFP_3._V516043504_.pdf
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Sources say Amazon has been in discussions to buy Millville Corporate Airport. Leading to speculation that NJ , South Jersey + Camden may be a legitmate candidate.

This is a situation where Philadelphia complex regional structure really does it no favors. You have 1 region divided into 3 seperate states(Pa-NJ-De) competing for the same prize and NJ and De capital cities are much closer to Philadelphia than its own state capital.
There is no way in hell that it's going to end up in Camden/South Jersey. Any benefits that Amazon is looking for (airport, transit, Universities) is found in Philly. For those same reasons, Wilmington definitely has no chance. However, if Philly gets it, then Camden, Wilmington, and South Jersey will inevitably reap the benefits.

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Maybe they mean "crazy good"? Other than that, there's absolutely NO reason for Philly to be on that list.
Exactly. If anything, that's the most realistic proposal in that article.

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I wonder what sorts of arguments we'll have between then and now. But seriously, that's going to be a lot of waiting.
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Old Posted Oct 16, 2017, 10:34 PM
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Here's an article from this past May, in which it is speculated that Amazon may want to get into pharmaceuticals. If they do, I'd say Philly's chances get better.
http://fortune.com/2017/05/18/amazon-pharmacy-stock-price-prescription-drugs/
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Old Posted Oct 16, 2017, 11:49 PM
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Here's an article from this past May, in which it is speculated that Amazon may want to get into pharmaceuticals. If they do, I'd say Philly's chances get better.
http://fortune.com/2017/05/18/amazon-pharmacy-stock-price-prescription-drugs/
I could see them buying CVS Health. CVS market capitalization is only around 74 billion, a fraction of AMZN's $483 billion market cap. Besides the retail locations, that would also give them the prescription benefits management subsidiary, CVS Caremark. If they want to go for it, now would be a good time, while we have Trump's permissive regulatory climate.
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Old Posted Oct 17, 2017, 12:19 AM
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I could see them buying CVS Health. CVS market capitalization is only around 74 billion, a fraction of AMZN's $483 billion market cap. Besides the retail locations, that would also give them the prescription benefits management subsidiary, CVS Caremark. If they want to go for it, now would be a good time, while we have Trump's permissive regulatory climate.
This is a pretty brilliant idea, actually.
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I could see them buying CVS Health. CVS market capitalization is only around 74 billion, a fraction of AMZN's $483 billion market cap. Besides the retail locations, that would also give them the prescription benefits management subsidiary, CVS Caremark. If they want to go for it, now would be a good time, while we have Trump's permissive regulatory climate.
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Here's an article from this past May, in which it is speculated that Amazon may want to get into pharmaceuticals. If they do, I'd say Philly's chances get better.
http://fortune.com/2017/05/18/amazon-pharmacy-stock-price-prescription-drugs/
It's the not-so secret that everyone knows that Amazon is looking to get into mail-order prescription drugs. They already have an infrastructure and supply chain philosophy in place with distribution hubs strategically located around the country... aging population now comfortable ordering things online - it's a crazy lucrative business with almost unlimited growth potential. In that respect, yes, Philly certainly has a nice advantage.
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Old Posted Oct 17, 2017, 6:39 PM
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I could see them buying CVS Health. CVS market capitalization is only around 74 billion, a fraction of AMZN's $483 billion market cap. Besides the retail locations, that would also give them the prescription benefits management subsidiary, CVS Caremark. If they want to go for it, now would be a good time, while we have Trump's permissive regulatory climate.
which is in Chicago a pharma logistics distribution company with a better fit is in our area AmerisourceBergen
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Old Posted Oct 17, 2017, 8:23 PM
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The Duke of York and William Penn now accepting complaints regarding the division of the region between three colonies.

I'm not sure how Millville would betoken anything beyond a distribution center.
Amazon has started placing orders for planes.

Meaning, they'd rather own distribution of their goods than hand it off to FedEx or UPS. It would make sense, if Amazon were to become its own logistics provider, that they would have a hub airport in the manner that Fedex has one in Memphis and UPS in Louisville.

So it could be that the Millville airport would become an Amazon Logistics Hub.
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Old Posted Oct 17, 2017, 8:32 PM
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Amazon has started placing orders for planes.

Meaning, they'd rather own distribution of their goods than hand it off to FedEx or UPS. It would make sense, if Amazon were to become its own logistics provider, that they would have a hub airport in the manner that Fedex has one in Memphis and UPS in Louisville.

So it could be that the Millville airport would become an Amazon Logistics Hub.
Complete aside but, if they want Amazon Logistics to work they need to step it the f%#& up. They are 0-3 with my orders including leaving a package with my neighbor. I actually had to tell them not to send my stuff via their service even if it takes longer.
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