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I noticed the other month that they had replaced a few windows on the lower part with new glass and the colour of tiny matched up perfectly, which begs the question why they replaced the top portion with a different tint.
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I noticed the other month that they had replaced a few windows on the lower part with new glass and the colour of tiny matched up perfectly, which begs the question why they replaced the top portion with a different tint.
Supposedly the original glass manufacturer went out of business.

Maybe the replacement panels were saved from the bottom level of condos (below the metal band) where a level of dark tint glass was replaced with the new glass (though I think the ceiling height was taller due to a transfer floor above).
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Supposedly the original glass manufacturer went out of business.

Maybe the replacement panels were saved from the bottom level of condos (below the metal band) where a level of dark tint glass was replaced with the new glass (though I think the ceiling height was taller due to a transfer floor above).
But is it actually that hard to get the right tint from a different manufacturer? I mean I'm not an expert in glass tinting, but you would expect that they could at least get the right "recipe" from the previous manufacturer.


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Supposedly the original glass manufacturer went out of business.

Maybe the replacement panels were saved from the bottom level of condos (below the metal band) where a level of dark tint glass was replaced with the new glass (though I think the ceiling height was taller due to a transfer floor above).
I read the strata minutes somewhere (forgot where now) and apparently they considered a different glass with different properties (forgot the name of it) that would've matched the hotel glass perfectly but I believe it was 2 million dollars more and residents voted against it
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We have had this discussion already. The original glass manufacturer went out of business, so they had to order from a different one. The intention was to make the old and the new match 100% and the new glass is almost exactly the same black color when viewed from the same level or above, as seen in many photos that have been posted.

It is unfortunate that it reflects a blue tone when viewed from below, the one direction where it counts the most.

They still have some old glass panes in storage, so lower floor windows can still be replaced with the original glass when they break. Without a picture, I am thinking that osirisboy is talking about some panes that have been replaced ages ago. There are several on the lower portion which stick out quite a bit, as they have never removed those shiny clips.
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We have had this discussion already. The original glass manufacturer went out of business, so they had to order from a different one. The intention was to make the old and the new match 100% and the new glass is almost exactly the same black color when viewed from the same level or above, as seen in many photos that have been posted.

It is unfortunate that it reflects a blue tone when viewed from below, the one direction where it counts the most.

They still have some old glass panes in storage, so lower floor windows can still be replaced with the original glass when they break. Without a picture, I am thinking that osirisboy is talking about some panes that have been replaced ages ago. There are several on the lower portion which stick out quite a bit, as they have never removed those shiny clips.
Yes, but they looked into another option that cost 2 million more which would've matched nearly perfectly/much more. It was not approved by the residents and Wall Financial.
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I read the strata minutes somewhere (forgot where now) and apparently they considered a different glass with different properties (forgot the name of it) that would've matched the hotel glass perfectly but I believe it was 2 million dollars more and residents voted against it
Ah! Yes this makes sense!! The whole "the original glass manufacturer went out of business and therefore can't match the original glass" reasoning seemed odd

And them keeping original windows in storage seems bizarre. So when I window fails they replace it with a 20 year old replacement that's been sitting in storage? Lol. I lived in a similar aged condo with tinted windows and every year thestrata would replace a bunch and it was always new windows that would be ordered (and it matched perfectly)
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Ah! Yes this makes sense!! The whole "the original glass manufacturer went out of business and therefore can't match the original glass" reasoning seemed odd

And them keeping original windows in storage seems bizarre. So when I window fails they replace it with a 20 year old replacement that's been sitting in storage? Lol. I lived in a similar aged condo with tinted windows and every year thestrata would replace a bunch and it was always new windows that would be ordered (and it matched perfectly)
I'm sure during construction they ordered a surplus to account for damages during construction. I'm not sure why they would just throw out 20-25 window panels they likely had left over. Keeping them in storage would mean they're in mint condition so why not use them when a panel fails/breaks?
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I'm sure during construction they ordered a surplus to account for damages during construction. I'm not sure why they would just throw out 20-25 window panels they likely had left over. Keeping them in storage would mean they're in mint condition so why not use them when a panel fails/breaks?
Seals can dry out/fail that's why. And they have easily have replaced 25 windows over 20 years already. It's common seals break and windows get fogged up. Windows are always being replaced
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Ah! Yes this makes sense!! The whole "the original glass manufacturer went out of business and therefore can't match the original glass" reasoning seemed odd

And them keeping original windows in storage seems bizarre. So when I window fails they replace it with a 20 year old replacement that's been sitting in storage? Lol. I lived in a similar aged condo with tinted windows and every year thestrata would replace a bunch and it was always new windows that would be ordered (and it matched perfectly)
The reason it sounded odd is because it IS odd, and factually not true. Glass color can be matched just like paint. The difference would be the "newer" glass on top would still look ever so slightly different than the stuff below.

The glass on the Wall Centre was a political issue from day one and the result we see today is a compromise that although is miles better than what was there before, still is not a perfect match.
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The reason it sounded odd is because it IS odd, and factually not true. Glass color can be matched just like paint. The difference would be the "newer" glass on top would still look ever so slightly different than the stuff below.

The glass on the Wall Centre was a political issue from day one and the result we see today is a compromise that although is miles better than what was there before, still is not a perfect match.
As mentioned above. The new glass doesn't match, not because it's new it's because the strata voted to go with a slightly different glass
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As mentioned above. The new glass doesn't match, not because it's new it's because the strata voted to go with a slightly different glass

Yes I know, I was just speaking about the myth of the old company going out of business therefore they couldn't match the color of the glass which is flat out wrong.

Interesting choice by the strata, although no matter what their choice would have been, it still needed to comply with city ordinances.
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Ah! Yes this makes sense!! The whole "the original glass manufacturer went out of business and therefore can't match the original glass" reasoning seemed odd

And them keeping original windows in storage seems bizarre. So when I window fails they replace it with a 20 year old replacement that's been sitting in storage? Lol. I lived in a similar aged condo with tinted windows and every year thestrata would replace a bunch and it was always new windows that would be ordered (and it matched perfectly)
Also, it seems bizarre why they would replace the first residential floor with the original windows in the storage; weren't the old ones just double paned IGUs and the new ones tripled paned?
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