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Old Posted Jul 17, 2017, 3:04 PM
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I agree with you when it comes to clothing, but I disagree with you in general. The amount of BMWs, Mercedes and Audis I see driving around town would suggest that vanity is a factor when it comes to certain things and Ottawans would gladly throw money at those things carelessly.
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I agree with you when it comes to clothing, but I disagree with you in general. The amount of BMWs, Mercedes and Audis I see driving around town would suggest that vanity is a factor when it comes to certain things and Ottawans would gladly throw money at those things carelessly.
Cars, home interiors, travel, vacation properties - Ottawans with money have no trouble spending on things that matter to them. "Flashy" spending, however, seems more the exception than the rule - to me Ottawa's the kind of place where significant numbers of people understand what old money looks like and tend to mimic it, even when their money is new.
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Old Posted Jul 17, 2017, 5:14 PM
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The above sums things up nicely.

Ottawans with nice $hit are more likely to get it because they simply like it, can afford it, and don't deem it to be wasteful. They are less likely because they feel the need to keep up with the Jones's or make a splash amongst their peers or within their community.

Of course there are exceptions to every rule, but that's the general pulse of things here.
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This is why Ottawans tend to all look like they are going apple picking whether at work or out for the evening. Like Mrs. Doubtfire and Dan Connor going apple picking.
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Honestly, has anyone heard of Emilio Guido? I have never heard of the brand or ever seen a store anywhere else in Canada, US or Europe. As for Stresllon, probably wasn't a good idea to open your first free standing store in Canada in Ottawa. That was easy to predict.
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Honestly, has anyone heard of Emilio Guido? I have never heard of the brand or ever seen a store anywhere else in Canada, US or Europe. As for Stresllon, probably wasn't a good idea to open your first free standing store in Canada in Ottawa. That was easy to predict.
Vancouver has a free standing strellson for the past couple of years. Recently it has signs saying liquidation sale but store isn't closing. Apparently strellson Canada is being purchased by strellson international and they want to bring in all their new stock in
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Honestly, has anyone heard of Emilio Guido? I have never heard of the brand or ever seen a store anywhere else in Canada, US or Europe. As for Stresllon, probably wasn't a good idea to open your first free standing store in Canada in Ottawa. That was easy to predict.
Ottawa is a retail test market. Most people are not aware of this fact.
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If you can flog it here you can flog it anywhere?
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[QUOTE=TheGoods;7868021]Honestly, has anyone heard of Emilio Guido? I have never heard of the brand or ever seen a store anywhere else in Canada, US or Europe. As for Stresllon, probably wasn't a good idea to open your first free standing store in Canada in Ottawa. That was easy to predict.[/QUOTE

Strellson has been open in Toronto for at least ten years at the corner of Bloor and Avenue Road. There is also a Strellson in Montreal. When is Ottawa first for anything?
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Strellson's own web site shows no stores outside of Toronto, Vancouver, and Ottawa (for now, apparently)... only dealers in other Canadian cities.

Edit: I called Strellson for fun and the employee told me that their closure is not a certainty. They're negotiating with CF and may be moving within the mall. Take that for what it's worth.

Edit 2: I then tweeted at CF Rideau and asked if Strellson is closing. They answered "No it is not". Take that for what it's worth.

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Strellson has been open in Toronto for at least ten years at the corner of Bloor and Avenue Road. There is also a Strellson in Montreal. When is Ottawa first for anything?
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New Farm Boy at Rideau Centre will be a shock for the ByWard Market

David Reevely, Ottawa Citizen
Published on: July 18, 2017 | Last Updated: July 18, 2017 4:17 PM EDT


Grocery chain Farm Boy is set to open a new store in the Rideau Centre’s old food court by the end of this year, whacking the fragile ecosystem for food retail in the ByWard Market.

“We do have a deal with Farm Boy to open before the end of this year. We’re super-excited about the opportunity to do business with a very successful and well-regarded local retailer,” said Cindy VanBuskirk, the Rideau Centre’s general manager.

Farm Boy began in Cornwall more than 30 years ago but it’s now anchored in Ottawa and has been expanding rapidly over the last five years or so, opening stores in London, Kitchener and Whitby.

The details of the store plans are Farm Boy’s to share but customers shouldn’t expect a large suburban-style supermarket, VanBuskirk said. The company has been experimenting with different templates for its stores, trying out more prepared foods and space for eating in instead of only carrying out. It even has a counter at the Canadian Tire Centre, selling sandwiches and other takeout to eat on the spot.

A store retrofitted into an urban mall is another new model, so there isn’t much precedent to go on and Farm Boy’s spokeswoman didn’t return calls — this news is out a bit earlier than planned. But the building permit issued by the city to fit up Farm Boy’s space is for work on a two-level store, with an estimated construction cost of $1 million. It’ll be more than a meal counter.

People who care about the Market have struggled with its gradual conversion from a daytime source for fresh food groceries into a nighttime entertainment district. Farmers’ markets have popped up all over town, competing with the ByWard Market’s vendors during peak summer season.

The district is down to one year-round bricks-and-mortar produce store, making retailers worry that if that one closed, shoppers would find they couldn’t buy all their necessities in the Market, particularly in the winter. Once shoppers started going to the Metro or Loblaw’s a little bit east on Rideau Street, maybe they’d just buy everything at the supermarket. Then the bakeries, cheese shops and butchers would collapse, too. Pubs and clubs, which can generally afford higher rents, would take over completely.

Would that be a bad thing? Maybe it’s what our dollars say we want, but we’d certainly have lost a living connection to the Ottawa of old.

Now, hello, here’s a full-service grocery store right on the Market’s doorstep, whose whole proposition is that its products are better, fresher and more local than what you find in a Metro or Loblaw’s. It could be the backstop the Market’s retailers need to take a deep breath and feel secure for a change. Or it could be the final blow. Nobody from the ByWard Market’s merchants’ association was talking Tuesday, though their councillor is excited by Farm Boy’s impending arrival.

“I think (Farm Boy) will stabilize it,” said Rideau-Vanier Coun. Mathieu Fleury, for whom the ByWard Market has been a major preoccupation for the seven years he’s been in office. “They bring in good products but they’re not necessarily unique products. … There’s a lot of room in the Market for the specialty stories to do what they do.”

However good Farm Boy’s selection is, he said, it won’t directly compete with the imported olive oils and cheeses of La Bottega Nicastro on George Street, Fleury said, or a dedicated fishmonger like Lapointe’s.

“It does force them to stay unique and give a lot more of the specialty experience,” Fleury allowed.

The city’s just created a new non-profit management board for the Market and its first task is to devise a long-term strategy. Fleury said he’s glad the plan will be able to take account of Farm Boy’s presence from the beginning, rather than being crafted over months and then blown away by a surprise.

VanBuskirk imagines a downtown Farm Boy will be convenient for the growing population of condominium residents nearby, though. She pointed out that the Farm Boy, a Shoppers Drug Mart and an LCBO will all be close to the mall’s entrance to the Rideau light-rail station due to open in a year, making them convenient for rail commuters to pop into for basics.

Fleury agreed: “Rideau station is in the middle, I think it’s 10 minutes from anywhere else on the LRT,” he said. “It could bring a whole new group of people into the area.”

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Honestly, has anyone heard of Emilio Guido? I have never heard of the brand or ever seen a store anywhere else in Canada, US or Europe. As for Stresllon, probably wasn't a good idea to open your first free standing store in Canada in Ottawa. That was easy to predict.[/QUOTE

Strellson has been open in Toronto for at least ten years at the corner of Bloor and Avenue Road. There is also a Strellson in Montreal. When is Ottawa first for anything?
I take that back, at the time it was announced, there was only 1 store opened , their first store opened in 2012:

http://www.retail-insider.com/retail-insider/2014/7/strellson
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The article talks about Farm Boy being a full service grocery store, but all of the floor space estimates point to a fairly limited service store.
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The wrap is up advertising the arrival of Farm Boy.



The new Guest Services is open right next to the bridge on the third floor. That leaves a big space to fill where they had the temporary Guest Services and the empty space next door.

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Grocery stores have failed in malls en masse in Ottawa in the past couple of decades, but somehow I trust Farm Boy to make it work, even in the highest rent mall in the city.
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Grocery stores have failed in malls en masse in Ottawa in the past couple of decades, but somehow I trust Farm Boy to make it work, even in the highest rent mall in the city.
Don't know if I'd go that far. Farm Boy has succeeded at multiple mall locations in Place d'Orleans & Merivale Mall while grocery stores have survived at Carlingwood, Hazeldean, Lincoln Heights, Billings Bridge, and Gloucester Centre.
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Don't know if I'd go that far. Farm Boy has succeeded at multiple mall locations in Place d'Orleans & Merivale Mall while grocery stores have survived at Carlingwood, Hazeldean, Lincoln Heights, Billings Bridge, and Gloucester Centre.
These are Plazas/ Strip Malls rather than true Shopping Centres and generally probably have much lower rental rates and certainly lower than Rideau Centre.
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Grocery stores have failed in malls en masse in Ottawa in the past couple of decades, but somehow I trust Farm Boy to make it work, even in the highest rent mall in the city.
I visit the Westboro Farm Boy probably every second day.... I'm amazed that on the times I'm driving, there is almost always a parking spot available outside (very small lot), yet the store is always very busy. I would say a good percentage of the people are there from their local condo/home on foot. The "food to go" sections are very popular and always hopping busy.

Point being, the Rideau centre location has ALL THOSE CONDOS within steps.... It will be very interesting to see how the LRT/Grocery Store-to-go/Condo combination works.

They might very well pull this off...
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Old Posted Oct 2, 2017, 2:46 PM
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Grocery stores have failed in malls en masse in Ottawa in the past couple of decades, but somehow I trust Farm Boy to make it work, even in the highest rent mall in the city.
I'm sorry but I'm curious to know which grocery stores have failed in which Ottawa malls in the past 2 decades other than the short-lived Savory's Fine Foods at Bayshore.

Market Fresh doesn't count because the chain as a whole, went under, both mall and non-mall locations alike.
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