Cobalt Luxury Residences On King | 97.5 & 97.5m | 2 x 30 fl | Complete

[davidcappi]

Liuna will most likely start work on the Lister Annex on King William before this project.

This seems right. They still need to market/sell the condo units for one of the towers before they will likely start building it.

[King&James]

What does the Lister Annex look like. My guess is that they would get the next Tower going making it a rental for student like current Tower, that should generate enough cash to prime the final Tower

[king10]

Originally Posted by King&James

What does the Lister Annex look like. My guess is that they would get the next Tower going making it a rental for student like current Tower, that should generate enough cash to prime the final Tower

Supposed to be designed similar to the current lister.

Im curious to see how much student rentals the downtown can support. I know 140 main is full of students, with william thomas coming online that will be even more student rentals.

[davidcappi]

Main & Spring as well as Bay & King are being pitched as "student residences" which I think in developer speak means "its a rental building but we want you to waive parking requirements"

[matt602]

There were also pieces of the previous building that stood beside the Lister Block (the Balfour building) but they weren't retained as carefully as they did with the William Thomas building so I'm not sure if they'll even end up going that route. The building also collapsed during demolition so theres that...

[Crapht]

As it is, I imagine they could use the William Thomas crane for that Lister add on.

[Chronamut]

Originally Posted by matt602

There were also pieces of the previous building that stood beside the Lister Block (the Balfour building) but they weren't retained as carefully as they did with the William Thomas building so I'm not sure if they'll even end up going that route. The building also collapsed during demolition so theres that...

yeah the lister block is currently an L shape, being shorter on king william side than on james st, so if they created the lister annex in the same style as the lister block it would make it an equal square size.

[King&James]

so has this site then become quiet after the demo, no excavation equipmment? A lsiter annex to fill the Balfour gap would be welcome, but i am sure the City would need to be involved to make any floor extensions feasible (for other tenants), or agree to take on more space. Not sure if the City is working with flex floors where they could easily arrange employees.

[Chronamut]

Originally Posted by King&James

so has this site then become quiet after the demo, no excavation equipmment? A lsiter annex to fill the Balfour gap would be welcome, but i am sure the City would need to be involved to make any floor extensions feasible (for other tenants), or agree to take on more space. Not sure if the City is working with flex floors where they could easily arrange employees.

not sure if it would ACTUALLY be an extension of the lister block or just made to LOOK like one.. with its own floors unique to the individual building..

the building currently has an exit inside midway that exits out into a little sitting area and a parking lot.. if they extended it they might need to remove that and extend that exit into another hallway into the new extension.. or they could stop the building at the same back ending as the rest of the buildings on king william - very interested to see how they would tackle this. The original building that was there extended only as far as the rest of the buildings on king william..

[king10]

Originally Posted by King&James

so has this site then become quiet after the demo, no excavation equipmment? A lsiter annex to fill the Balfour gap would be welcome, but i am sure the City would need to be involved to make any floor extensions feasible (for other tenants), or agree to take on more space. Not sure if the City is working with flex floors where they could easily arrange employees.

City will be the owner/ occupants of the lister annex. It will be an extension of the existing office space. Main floor is commercial, perhaps restaurant. There will also be movement when city employees move into the under reno 51 main st E, also City owned. City employees will be in less leased space and more City owned space downtown.

[Bubba9000]

The builder has told me the main floor will be a restaurant. Part of a much loved group of restaurants with an existing presence on King William. The name and theme are already set. I'll let them spill the beans though.

[davidcappi]

This is now proposed as two 30 storey towers due to city requirements that they don't shadow the future John/Rebecca Park.

[bigguy1231]

Originally Posted by davidcappi

This is now proposed as two 30 storey towers due to city requirements that they don't shadow the future John/Rebecca Park.

Well I guess, they won't be able to build anything of any substance in that neighbourhood then, since anything within two or three blocks will overshadow the soon to be crackhead park. The only shadows they would get would be late in the day as the sun is setting. Just another silly excuse from the city.

[Crapht]

Why all the shadow hate? I often look for the shade when I'm walking the streets. The planet is not getting any cooler. I for one embrace the shadow.

[ScreamingViking]

4 floors is not going to make much of a difference. Especially if increasing the height of the second tower (which will be a bit closer to the park).

[Chronamut]

don't know if anyone has looked at this development lately, but ever since they have stopped demolition this building has been horribly vandalized.. almost every section at the top of it has been spraypainted in green with various names, parts of the stone appears to actually be cracked and I think one of the windows was actually broken..

if anything this now looks WORSE than it did before.. they may need to rebrick the entire facade.. also I hope their solution isn't to just paint the brick..

also the side on hughson I am sorry but I don't see this as ever not being an invitation for spraypainting unless they put some sort of security there.. it's been spraypainted and covered up over and over..

the city should really invest in some silica-based spray - it basically forms a layer of waterproof coating that liquids can't adhere to and thus they just slide right off and it's transparent.

also enjoy this rare image of the building with its original art deco designs on it

This may very well be the ONLY remaining image of the building before it became kreskys.

also the right house still has its stone sign on the top - something I think they should re-implement.



also this picture proves one thing.

The brick NEVER looked clean or good on this building.

Ever.

[davidcappi]

They are recreating the Kresge facade, not restoring it. It will be totally demolished before construction begins as they are digging down two stories.

[Chronamut]

Originally Posted by davidcappi

They are recreating the Kresge facade, not restoring it. It will be totally demolished before construction begins as they are digging down two stories.

ah, very good. Can't wait to see those art deco details recreated as well!

[CaptainKirk]

[Chronamut]

oh well that's interesting.. I don't remember the original plans showing the yellow brick columns continuing all around the bottom base of the building.. that should look interesting..

I just hope they use better brick that ages better over time this time.. Like perhaps a yellower brick instead of a yellow ivory coloured brick would be nice...

also please tell me they are just being lazy in that rendering not showing the art deco pyramids above each of the windows.. that was the original feature that really made it stand out originally