Municipal Politics

[DoubleK]

Originally Posted by suburbia

Small suggestion. Recruiting good people takes time. It is never too early to start scoping out for head of Calgary Sports & Entertainment.

Wonder if they could ever convince Ralph Kreuger to take that job.

[240glt]

Originally Posted by Chinook Arch

Well, it is the CBC so I wouldn't put too much stock into it. Left wing media types preach to the choir, and only listen to the same choir.

Nenshi probably will win, but only because of the lack of good opposition, and if it becomes a two man race he might not win at all.

I don't doubt that there is bias in media. In Edmonton during the arena debate, some of the reporters for the local media were key cheerleaders of the project and were so biased in favor of the model presented that they resorted to personal attacks and smear campaigns against anyone who opposed the deal. Desperation does funny things to people.

But what my sis told me was not a CBC story, it was her interpretation of what she'd been hearing in the newsroom and on the street. Biased ? Perhaps, but at least from up here, it sure looks as though Calgary is not prepared to go to the lengths that Edmonton did, and it does not appear that Calgarians are buying the same threats and spurious economics that Edmontonians bought into.

[Chinook Arch]

You're hilarious. Most people, even liberal types would admit the CBC is left leaning, Those who don't see that or admit it are either stupid or are in denial. Just like someone who argues that QR77 is not a right wing leaning station.

Originally Posted by suburbia

LOL! So any media outlet that Ken and his overlords do not have direct control over are immediately smeared as "left wing"?

Ken used to be publisher of the Sun and the Herald, and the owners are also well connected with Shaw / Global. I've personally been involved with a scenario where an item wasn't getting picked up. Ken picked up the phone, dialed the Herald editorial team, and a reporter was on it within an hour.

This media BS that you're trying to actually use against Nenshi will always be exposed, and it comes around and bites the billionaires even worse. The challenge the Billionaire staff and bots have is that they are too thick headed to get it. Keep going. The Jujitsu masters was having fun!

#NeoCitranHaze

Small suggestion. Recruiting good people takes time. It is never too early to start scoping out for head of Calgary Sports & Entertainment.

[Big Sky]

I keep hearing mixed signals about this election. Nenshi is still the odds on favorite I would say, I also hear a lot more about trying to unset him.

The poll at SRC has some interesting numbers. He's in the lead but a fair bit of undecided voters.
http://calgary.skyrisecities.com/forum/t...-election-2017.27686/page-3#post-1261498
Nenshi 10
Chabot 0
Smith 6
Undecided 6
I wonder how close this is to other circles?

[rotten42]

Originally Posted by suburbia

LOL! So any media outlet that Ken and his overlords do not have direct control over are immediately smeared as "left wing"?

Ken used to be publisher of the Sun and the Herald, and the owners are also well connected with Shaw / Global. I've personally been involved with a scenario where an item wasn't getting picked up. Ken picked up the phone, dialed the Herald editorial team, and a reporter was on it within an hour.

This media BS that you're trying to actually use against Nenshi will always be exposed, and it comes around and bites the billionaires even worse. The challenge the Billionaire staff and bots have is that they are too thick headed to get it. Keep going. The Jujitsu masters was having fun!

#NeoCitranHaze



Small suggestion. Recruiting good people takes time. It is never too early to start scoping out for head of Calgary Sports & Entertainment.

Bullshit...the CBC has always had an agenda in their reporting. Just like CNN and Fox have theirs. If you can't see it, you're blind.

[Corndogger]

Originally Posted by Chinook Arch

You're hilarious. Most people, even liberal types would admit the CBC is left leaning, Those who don't see that or admit it are either stupid or are in denial. Just like someone who argues that QR77 is not a right wing leaning station.

QR77 a right leaning station? Do you actually listen to the station? It's not even close to being right leaning especially the last four or five years.

[Deepstar]

Originally Posted by Chinook Arch

You're hilarious. Most people, even liberal types would admit the CBC is left leaning, Those who don't see that or admit it are either stupid or are in denial. Just like someone who argues that QR77 is not a right wing leaning station.

Stupid or in denial?

[Deepstar]

Originally Posted by Corndogger

QR77 a right leaning station? Do you actually listen to the station? It's not even close to being right leaning especially the last four or five years.

Ummm yeah, I listen to them every day. It's right leaning. Danilelle Smith for sure, and Rob Breakenridge, somewhat middle of the road, but right leaning. Angelia Colcot (sp?) is middle of the road.

[suburbia]

Originally Posted by Chinook Arch

You're hilarious. Most people, even liberal types would admit the CBC is left leaning, Those who don't see that or admit it are either stupid or are in denial.

Show me the data.

Frankly, I see the debates about media similar to debates about not-for-profit for-public-good institutions like libraries and school compared to on the other hand for-profit means-to-an-end institutions like sports empire infrastructure. The not-for-profit ones are actually not biased, though agree they are more centre than the ones run by for-profit empires.

[Western Spaghetti]

Originally Posted by suburbia

Show me the data.

Frankly, I see the debates about media similar to debates about not-for-profit for-public-good institutions like libraries and school compared to on the other hand for-profit means-to-an-end institutions like sports empire infrastructure. The not-for-profit ones are actually not biased, though agree they are more centre than the ones run by for-profit empires.

Show you the data? There are stats on how left leaning a media outlet is? The OP said that CBC was left leaning. Those that don't at least get that, are well, in one of the two categories he mentioned.

[Corndogger]

Originally Posted by Deepstar

Ummm yeah, I listen to them every day. It's right leaning. Danilelle Smith for sure, and Rob Breakenridge, somewhat middle of the road, but right leaning. Angelia Colcot (sp?) is middle of the road.

Your definition of right leaning is different than the general public's. Angela Kokott is very left leaning. She belongs on CBC or better yet back on early morning TV doing nothing but fluff pieces.

[suburbia]

Originally Posted by Corndogger

Your definition of right leaning is different than the general public's.

Can you articulate what you mean by right leaning?

Trump is most certainly right leaning, or do you disagree?

In media, right leaning often is linked to social conservatism as opposed to being progressive. On the fiscal side, right leaning is fiscal conservatism. Bill Smith, being supporting of massive tax handouts to big business would be far left on the fiscal scale (akin to corrupt communist implementation where a few oligarchs actually control and are able to do so by having puppet leaders in power), whereas his fear of LGBTQ would mean is far right on the social conservatism.

Can you imaging BS at a Pride Parade? LOL!

[Corndogger]

Originally Posted by suburbia

Can you articulate what you mean by right leaning?

Trump is most certainly right leaning, or do you disagree?

In media, right leaning often is linked to social conservatism as opposed to being progressive. On the fiscal side, right leaning is fiscal conservatism. Bill Smith, being supporting of massive tax handouts to big business would be far left on the fiscal scale (akin to corrupt communist implementation where a few oligarchs actually control and are able to do so by having puppet leaders in power), whereas his fear of LGBTQ would mean is far right on the social conservatism.

Can you imaging BS at a Pride Parade? LOL!

We're not talking about Trump or Smith though. As for your comments about Smith where did he say he's in favor of massive handouts to big business what does that have to do with being mayor? He's afraid of LGBTQ? That's also news to me. Are these points Nenshi is going to attack him on in the final weeks of the campaign? The left and media are probably shitting themselves over the results of that poll showing Nenshi trailing Smith.

[DizzyEdge]

Herald article with a Sept 28 poll showing Smith significantly ahead

http://calgaryherald.com/news/local-news...t-nenshi-two-weeks-before-municipal-vote

[Corndogger]

Just did a short automated phone survey for Pantheon Research. Few questions about Nenshi's performance, does he deserve to be reelected, who I favor, and who I favor at the ward level. Hard to say who paid for it but it definitely wasn't Nenshi's team.

[Doug]

Originally Posted by Corndogger

We're not talking about Trump or Smith though. As for your comments about Smith where did he say he's in favor of massive handouts to big business what does that have to do with being mayor? He's afraid of LGBTQ? That's also news to me. Are these points Nenshi is going to attack him on in the final weeks of the campaign? The left and media are probably shitting themselves over the results of that poll showing Nenshi trailing Smith.

The Smith campaign is likely avoiding policy on purpose trying to ride an anti-Nenshi wave. Nenshi's biggest weaknesses are perceived arrogance and unwillingness to work with the business community. The arena debate hasn't helped his campaign on either front.

[suburbia]

Originally Posted by Doug

The Smith campaign is likely avoiding policy on purpose

It is absolutely true that the only chance BS has is not based on any leadership qualities / abilities or policy. It is only if they can convince people Nenshi is the anti-Christ.

[dg66]

Originally Posted by Doug

The Smith campaign is likely avoiding policy on purpose trying to ride an anti-Nenshi wave. Nenshi's biggest weaknesses are perceived arrogance and unwillingness to work with the business community. The arena debate hasn't helped his campaign on either front.

That's 100% the case indeed. If I were Smith I wouldn't get deep into policy either. Nenshi has done a good job of hanging himself with his own rope, and If you're Smith, you just need to get Chabot out of the way, and you're in a good position to take this.

[DizzyEdge]

Originally Posted by 5seconds

i had an open mind, but seeing smith align himself with ready to engage really sealed that he isn't someone i want as mayor. he was just spouting the same misinformation and was aligning himself with a nimby group without exploring the issue with others who might have an alternative view. I understand how opposing the swbrt might win votes on the local ward level, but i think he misjudged that stance when he is trying to appeal all across the city and across different demographics.

100%

[Calgarian]

Agreed, if Smith is Anti-transit, then he doesn't get my vote.