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Old Posted Sep 28, 2017, 3:41 PM
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i give it 10% chance, 50% chance if we win the amazon hq2
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Old Posted Sep 28, 2017, 3:55 PM
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Ok, This helps clarify things a bit. My excitement is up a bit now. It will be interesting to see how this plays out, especially with Amazon in the background. However, this building is mostly luxury condos, retail, and a hotel. If anything, the Amazon potential probably has office developers more excited than luxury condo developers.

http://www.9news.com/money/personal-fina...ld-be-denvers-tallest-building/478941079
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Old Posted Sep 28, 2017, 3:55 PM
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http://www.denverpost.com/2017/09/28/denver-tallest-building-six-fifty-17-greenwich-realty/

Now on the cover of the Denver Post. Developer seems pretty confident... 1,000 ft tall and 100% going forward?!
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Old Posted Sep 28, 2017, 4:15 PM
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Market Station

According to The Denver Business Journal, construction to begin on Market Station.

https://www.bizjournals.com/denver/news/...eloper-to-start-work-on-200-million.html
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Old Posted Sep 28, 2017, 4:27 PM
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According to The Denver Business Journal, construction to begin on Market Station.

https://www.bizjournals.com/denver/news/...eloper-to-start-work-on-200-million.html
Wow, a fire hose of news today......

Outside of highrises, this is probably my most anticipated project to break ground this year. I feel like it will help fill in a gap between the mall and Union Station. Plus, it will offer downtown Denver a host of new retail options. Win-win here. Very excited to see the demo get underway!
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Old Posted Sep 28, 2017, 4:36 PM
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Wow, a fire hose of news today......

Outside of highrises, this is probably my most anticipated project to break ground this year. I feel like it will help fill in a gap between the mall and Union Station. Plus, it will offer downtown Denver a host of new retail options. Win-win here. Very excited to see the demo get underway!
The article says it will be done in summer 2019, that seems pretty aggressive for such a large project but I guess most the underground parking garage will be left as is?

This and TCR's 18th & Market project will really transform Market St through downtown. Between both projects that's an additional 530 apartments being added to LODO.

I also heard some interesting news that the Rockies West Lot development (19th & Wazee) is moving forward and will definitely include a hotel and office space, not sure about residential? RNL is the architect. That's all I know, but that is the last major hole to fill in LODO.
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Old Posted Sep 28, 2017, 5:12 PM
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http://www.denverpost.com/2017/09/28/denver-tallest-building-six-fifty-17-greenwich-realty/

Now on the cover of the Denver Post. Developer seems pretty confident... 1,000 ft tall and 100% going forward?!
When I hear that someone is "100%" doing anything, I get really skeptical. It's a general trope in the sports world that when an athlete or coach says that they are "100% committed", it almost always leads to them bailing within a few weeks.

Maybe they were able to raise the equity from the rich UAE elite at their cocktail party, and now the project can move forward. It seems like it could pencil out if the financing is in place, and rich UAE don't tend to shy away from superfluous mega-projects either. So it isn't out of the realm of possibility for financing to come through. Although, they will need to to get a significant FAR variance to account for the proposed 1,000,000 sf on a 25,000 sf lot.

However, this project seems about as sketchy as the Renzi condo proposal. Both of them had palm trees in their renderings, both have questionable development teams, and both are land deals with Buzz Geller. My guess is Geller is trying to drum up press to liquidate his land holdings and retire, but that is pure speculation.

One final peculiarity is that the # of floors being proposed on the website now is 90, and was 75 a few days ago. However, I counted 84 floors in the floor stack diagram, so take that for what it's worth.

I'm all for the project, but historically, these types of "new tallest" developments are harbingers of an economic recession, and rarely are money-makers in the first few years. I'm excited, but still very skeptical

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I'm all for the project, but historically, these types of "new tallest" developments are harbingers of an economic recession, and rarely are money-makers in the few years. I'm excited, but still very skeptical
This is all eerily similar to Denver back in September 2007 and we know how that turned out. I have a bad feeling about all of this.

On the bright side do the Rockies have a 2007-like playoff run in them?
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According to The Denver Business Journal, construction to begin on Market Station.

https://www.bizjournals.com/denver/news/...eloper-to-start-work-on-200-million.html
Anyone know what the status of the two adjacent hotels is? I'm talking about these ones:
1600 Market

https://denverinfill.com/blog/2016/10/lower-downtown-1600-market-hotel-update-3.html

1701 Blake

https://denverinfill.com/blog/2016/01/new-lower-downtown-project-1701-blake-hotel.html
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On the bright side do the Rockies have a 2007-like playoff run in them?
That's why I'm optimistic this time will be different. The Rockies most certainly do not.
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That's why I'm optimistic this time will be different. The Rockies most certainly do not.
If only the World Series was before the All-Star Break. Then the Rockies would have a few championships.
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How come 650 17th street was taken off denverinfill?

*Edit- Sorry it is still on there I just missed it somehow! My bad

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Old Posted Sep 28, 2017, 7:44 PM
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^^ With J.D. Martinez on fire it won't be easy getting by the Diamondbacks. The guy just tied Hall of Famer Ralph Kiner for home runs in September and needs one more to tie leaders Babe Ruth (1927) and Albert Belle (1995).

First pitch will be 5:00 pm (MDT) next Wed. at Chase Field. Then two hours later you can watch the Nuggets play the Lakers.

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The article says it will be done in summer 2019, that seems pretty aggressive for such a large project but I guess most the underground parking garage will be left as is?

This and TCR's 18th & Market project will really transform Market St through downtown. Between both projects that's an additional 530 apartments being added to LODO.

I also heard some interesting news that the Rockies West Lot development (19th & Wazee) is moving forward and will definitely include a hotel and office space, not sure about residential? RNL is the architect. That's all I know, but that is the last major hole to fill in LODO.
Good stuff, thanks.
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Old Posted Sep 28, 2017, 10:04 PM
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RE: 650 17th Street

Does anyone else think that $400 million is quite cheap for a 1,000 foot tall, 90-story building? It sure does to me.
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Old Posted Sep 29, 2017, 3:32 PM
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This story is a nice cherry on top of the Market Station groundbreaking news....

https://www.bizjournals.com/denver/news/...nt-market-coming-to-downtown-denver.html

It's awesome to see Dairy Block is going to be offering up a food scene as well.
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Old Posted Sep 29, 2017, 6:40 PM
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Old Posted Sep 29, 2017, 7:50 PM
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This story is a nice cherry on top of the Market Station groundbreaking news....

https://www.bizjournals.com/denver/news/...nt-market-coming-to-downtown-denver.html

It's awesome to see Dairy Block is going to be offering up a food scene as well.
Interesting... I always thought it was going to be an Apple Store - at least according to the zoning:
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Old Posted Sep 29, 2017, 8:25 PM
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You are thinking about Apple taking up office space, not putting an Apple Store in. If there's any spot in downtown I could see that happening, it would be Market Station.

http://www.businessden.com/2017/05/09/fi...-maker-iphone-looking-lodo-office-space/
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Within the last couple of weeks or so, one entry in the C&C of Denver Building Department's Projects Status Report went from

Walnut Street Place 2015PM384 3405 Walnut 18 unit townhome Muti-Family Residential G-MU-3 Jeff Brasel

to

3405 Walnut Mixed Use 2017PM228 3405 Walnut 12-story mixed use building featuring residential condominiums, clubroom, fitness, pool deck, retail and automated parking Mixed-Use I-MX-3 Jeff Brasel

Googling the address, a project called Rino Rise is in the making


http://www.inventdp.com/rino-rise/

and will be in the place of this

https://www.google.com.mx/maps/@39.76685...tEfmIm5M_Bzz_WQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en


Since this just basically filed, maybe this project has a good chance of getting out of the ground, especially being a condo project? Looks pretty good for that part of town.....


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Old Posted Sep 29, 2017, 9:04 PM
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Wow, that's a pretty cool project for RiNo, and would probably fit in pretty well. Some digging around from that site also indicates two other projects in the area:

https://rinoresidences.com/

and

http://www.inventdp.com/train-denver

I almost want to say that first project of townhomes is already underway, but will confirm later on my drive home from work. I seem to recall seeing some residential construction in that area, but I can't remember where exactly.

EDIT: I see now that the townhome project is at the same location as the proposed 12-story condo project. Will be interesting to see how this shakes out.

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