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Old Posted Sep 20, 2017, 1:45 AM
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That whole area in the foreground needs to be leveled. I'm surprised it's sat for so long as it is. Run down buildings and the largest surface lot in the core now.
There's a tall proposal for the Southeast corner of Church and Dundas. There are a couple of good restaurants in those crummy old buildings, I'll be kinda sad to see them go.
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There's a tall proposal for the Southeast corner of Church and Dundas. There are a couple of good restaurants in those crummy old buildings, I'll be kinda sad to see them go.
I agree. Those buildings....though a bit rundown, add a great deal of character and have some nice retail within them. It would be a disservice to level a good portion of those buildings.....though the parking lot next to the brick building sounds like a good place for development.
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When will anybody learn?

Tearing down entire neighbourhoods just because, without a real reason or anything to replace them, is always a terrible idea.
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 20, 2017, 2:03 AM
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That last Van photo looks great....interesting how the trees on one of the towers glows from the bottom as a result of the lights of the tower......I wonder what light pollution does to these trees.
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That whole area in the foreground needs to be leveled. I'm surprised it's sat for so long as it is. Run down buildings and the largest surface lot in the core now.
How about keep them all? Old, brick buildings like those have tons of character and are not that common in the downtown core. Glass condo towers will never be able to re-create the same vibe. I would say tear down one or two if absolutely necessary and preserve/restore the rest.
     
     
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[IMG]Calgary skyline by LUMIN8, on Flickr[/IMG]
Nice to see the smoke cleared and that blue sky back . Also nice to still see cranes in the sky.
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Tearing down entire neighbourhoods just because, without a real reason or anything to replace them, is always a terrible idea.
What about Lebreton flats? It's been a huge success with tons of vibrancy ever since it was torn down by the NCC.
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 20, 2017, 7:30 PM
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Or Regent Park in Toronto? Another huge success.
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There's a tall proposal for the Southeast corner of Church and Dundas. There are a couple of good restaurants in those crummy old buildings, I'll be kinda sad to see them go.
Canada still hasn't figured out how to recreate an equivalent pedestrian/retail experience on the ground level of new high rises. I'm not convinced that it's impossible especially given the many fantastic first 4-5 floors one sees in many new developments elsewhere.

It requires developers hire people that specialize in retail facades and that adequate money is allocated into creating something beautiful. Texture, material choices, colour, etc? The current mentality seems to be to just throw up some big panes of glass and assume that they've done their job. It doesn't work but they still keep doing it. Not everything needs to look like a Louis Vuitton store to look good either.

There's absolutely no reason why we can't have something like this below at the bottom of a 50 floor condo building. It would take some tweaking (higher floor height, door at pavement level, etc) but it's doable and likely the same price as a big sheet of glass. The possibilities are endless. I could post 100 different images; none similar.


Courtesy of ak0

One can do alot with brick too

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One could even break the grey colour up for visual interest: 2 stores grey, 2 stores navy, 2 stores hunter green

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What about Lebreton flats? It's been a huge success with tons of vibrancy ever since it was torn down by the NCC.
That strikes me as an incredibly odd thing to say, although I could be missing the sarcasm due to being extremely tired. Not sure I've ever heard the word "vibrancy" to describe the current state of Lebreton Flats. There have been a few mediocre condos for about a decade now with hopefully some better stuff to come in the future. Prior to that it was a contaminated field with nothing going on for decades.

http://www.pastottawa.com/tag/lebreton-flats/288/

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Or Regent Park in Toronto? Another huge success.
Not really the best example either. The current incarnation of Regent Park seems to be doing quite well but one of the the principles of the development was to avoid just tearing everything down en masse and replacing it with new. That's that's what originally happened and things didn't go so well (for lots of reasons). It's proceeding at a very manageable pace.
     
     
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That strikes me as an incredibly odd thing to say, although I could be missing the sarcasm due to being extremely tired. Not sure I've ever heard the word "vibrancy" to describe the current state of Lebreton Flats. There have been a few mediocre condos for about a decade now with hopefully some better stuff to come in the future. Prior to that it was a contaminated field with nothing going on for decades.

http://www.pastottawa.com/tag/lebreton-flats/288/

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Not really the best example either. The current incarnation of Regent Park seems to be doing quite well but one of the the principles of the development was to avoid just tearing everything down en masse and replacing it with new. That's that's what originally happened and things didn't go so well (for lots of reasons). It's proceeding at a very manageable pace.
It was sarcasm, lol
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 21, 2017, 1:27 PM
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It was sarcasm, lol
Gotcha - when you spend the first half of the week travelling northern Ontario for public consultations it's easy to miss basic social cues!
     
     
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Downtown Winnipeg seems strange. So spread out compared to most Canadian cities.
     
     
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Those parking lots at the Forks would be a great place to develop and bring some more activity east of Main Street. It's odd how detached the downtown riverfront is so detached from activity.
     
     
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Downtown Winnipeg seems strange. So spread out compared to most Canadian cities.
Absolutely. It's very spread out, covering a large area. Thankfully, a lot of the parking lots are slowly being filled in.


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Those parking lots at the Forks would be a great place to develop and bring some more activity east of Main Street. It's odd how detached the downtown riverfront is so detached from activity.
There has been a lot of talk about that, I'm not completely up on the current state but I believe something is still in the works there

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