Canadian Airport Thread - Page 255

Coldrsx · #**5081** Posted **Sep 15, 2017, 6:34 PM**

Edmonton International Airport
Passenger Statistics for August 2017 --

Highlights:
§ Terminal Traffic: 709,609 passengers (4,941,537 Year-to-date)
Q Domestic 632,864 passengers (4,039,590 Year-to-date)
Q Transborder 47,932 passengers (568,485 Year-to-date)
Q International 28,813 passengers (333,462 Year-to-date)

§ FBO Traffic*: 38,370 passengers (281,652 Year-to-date)

§ Grand Total: Overall 747,979 passengers (5,223,189 Year-to-date)

Growth%:
§ Terminal: 6.0% (4.7% Year-to-date)
Q Domestic 8.0% (7.4% Year-to-date)
Q Transborder -16.2% (-9.0% Year-to-date)
Q International 10.5% (-0.7% Year-to-date)

§ FBO Traffic: -11.7% (-22.7% Year-to-date)

§ Grand Total: Overall 4.9% (2.7% Year-to-date)

*FBO passengers are passengers using the fixed base operators at YEG and not the main terminal. Most of this traffic serves energy and mining projects in the north.

thenoflyzone · #**5082** Posted **Sep 16, 2017, 1:42 AM**

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Originally Posted by Coldrsx

Overall 4.9% (2.7% Year-to-date)

ACT7 · #**5083** Posted **Sep 18, 2017, 4:46 PM**

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Ukraine International Airlines Part 2: long haul expansion to resume in 2018 as 777s are added

Ukraine International Airlines (UIA) is planning to resume long haul expansion in 2018 as the airline adds 777s to its fleet. Delhi, Shanghai, Toronto and a second destination in the US are expected to be launched, doubling the size of UIA’s long haul network.

https://centreforaviation.com/insights/a...-resume-in-2018-as-777s-are-added-361023

LeftCoaster · #**5084** Posted **Sep 18, 2017, 8:15 PM**

^Nice, that'd be a great get for YYZ.

In less positive news AC has cut their YYZ-NRT service. It looked like they weren't after the YUL expansion but it's now been removed from the schedule:
http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airl...18-toronto-tokyo-narita-service-changes/

Could open up a door for ANA service though, being the inverse of YVR with AC to Narita and ANA to Haneda.

thenoflyzone · #**5085** Posted **Sep 18, 2017, 9:44 PM**

Icelandair plans 737 MAX 8 Montreal debut in May 2018.

http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airl...ans-737max-8-montreal-debut-in-may-2018/

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Icelandair in last week’s schedule update partially adjusted planned Reykjavik Keflavik – Montreal service, which sees the introduction of Boeing 737MAX 8 (7M8) service from 24MAY18. Initially service operates 3 times a week, gradually increasing up to 5 weekly during peak season.

FI805 KEF1705 – 1835YUL 7M8 146
FI804 YUL2055 – 0600+1KEF 7M8 146

Currently, KEF departure shows 3 weekly 757 operating from 07JUN18, 5 weekly 7M8 from YUL. This discrepancy in the system will be corrected soon.

LeftCoaster · #**5086** Posted **Sep 18, 2017, 9:51 PM**

A boost in frequencies but an overall decline in seats.

I'd imagine they will go daily with the Max quite soon.

thenoflyzone · #**5087** Posted **Sep 18, 2017, 9:54 PM**

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Originally Posted by LeftCoaster

A boost in frequencies but an overall decline in seats.

I'd imagine they will go daily with the Max quite soon.

It's still an overall frequency and seat increase compared to this summer.

4x weekly B752 this summer vs 5x weekly B7M8 next summer.

Last week's airlineroute announcement about Icelandair's Canada increases mentioned YUL going to 6x weekly. No mention of that this week. Will be interesting to see what happens.

wave46 · #**5088** Posted **Sep 18, 2017, 9:56 PM**

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Originally Posted by LeftCoaster

A boost in frequencies but an overall decline in seats.

I'd imagine they will go daily with the Max quite soon.

I'd take the increased frequency any day of the week. The improved economics of the 737 MAX on Icelandair's routes will help keep fares low too.

I think they'll 'save' their 757s for the longer haul stuff now - western North America routes that don't need the capacity of a 767.

I think the biggest challenge Icelandair faces currently is congestion at KEF.

LeftCoaster · #**5089** Posted **Sep 18, 2017, 9:56 PM**

Ahh i see, I thought they were sending their 753. I always ran my numbers with that assumption.

Makes much more sense this way!

thenoflyzone · #**5090** Posted **Sep 18, 2017, 10:16 PM**

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Originally Posted by ACT7

https://centreforaviation.com/insights/a...-resume-in-2018-as-777s-are-added-361023

Interesting. They are getting the B777-200ER's from Air India. Seems to me those planes are too big for said markets. The 767s are ideal for UIA. North America and East Asia are easily reachable from KBP with the B763. Seems to me they would have been better off with some more 767s and in a few years, replace the whole bunch with 787s.

DrNest · #**5091** Posted **Sep 19, 2017, 1:31 PM**

It doesn't really bother me too much who plane they use, I just like the idea of seeing a new tail at Pearson.
That being said I'd like to see somebody bring their A350 into Pearson. I've not seen one in person yet. I doubt Cathy will swap their 777s and don't see Singapore Airlines or Finnair commencing routes into Toronto anytime soon.

ACT7 · #**5092** Posted **Sep 19, 2017, 6:18 PM**

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Originally Posted by DrNest

It doesn't really bother me too much who plane they use, I just like the idea of seeing a new tail at Pearson.
That being said I'd like to see somebody bring their A350 into Pearson. I've not seen one in person yet. I doubt Cathy will swap their 777s and don't see Singapore Airlines or Finnair commencing routes into Toronto anytime soon.

Finnair may restart their summer seasonal service again for next year. My understanding was that they were very popular flights.

DrNest · #**5093** Posted **Sep 19, 2017, 7:51 PM**

That's good to know. I'm planning on going to Scandinavia next summer, and would jump at the chance of flying on an A350 if they're using it on the route.

Zmonkey · #**5094** Posted **Sep 20, 2017, 3:50 PM**

Porter airlines is opening up a crew base in Thunder Bay, which seems like an odd choice.
They have 6 flights right out to Toronto but willl this allow them to
Open up more routes? Possible use Thunder Bay as a scissor hub? Can the q400 reach Ottawa or Montreal from Thunder Bay? Have there been any rumours of them pushing west, Winnipeg? Saskatoon, Regina?

thenoflyzone · #**5095** Posted **Sep 20, 2017, 7:19 PM**

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Originally Posted by Zmonkey

Can the q400 reach Ottawa or Montreal from Thunder Bay?

With ease. But I doubt that's what they are after.

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Have there been any rumours of them pushing west, Winnipeg? Saskatoon, Regina?

I think this solidifies any rumour of them expanding west past YQT.

OTSkyline · #**5096** Posted **Sep 20, 2017, 7:40 PM**

Flying Air Canada on the 787s direct Toronto to Mumbai in a few weeks and then New-Delhi - Toronto for the return. Will see how that goes.

My last long-long flight I was privileged to ride with Qatar Airways...

SignalHillHiker · #**5097** Posted **Sep 20, 2017, 8:29 PM**

YYT's contest to share the best story commemorating 75 years of passenger flight at the airport closed today. Nothing announced yet, but it's been cute.

• Video Link

Some really cute ones on their site. Love the woman who was adopted out to Quebec and reunited with her birth family here at the airport.

http://www.yyt75.com/

wave46 · #**5098** Posted **Sep 21, 2017, 3:43 PM**

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Originally Posted by thenoflyzone

With ease. But I doubt that's what they are after.

I think this solidifies any rumour of them expanding west past YQT.

I'm kind of curious where they'll go from Thunder Bay.

Regina, Winnipeg and Saskatoon, certainly, but the Q400 won't make it to Calgary or Edmonton, which would be two big markets they'd be missing out on.

The idea of flying direct to downtown Toronto diminishes when you have to do a layover in Thunder Bay. Why bother when Westjet or Air Canada will take you to Pearson and you can take the train downtown? You'll probably come out ahead in travel time that way.

I guess they have to try something in the meantime, as Billy Bishop is mandated to hold the status quo for now.

Edit: Maybe they're doing what they do for Newfoundland, but out west?

thenoflyzone · #**5099** Posted **Sep 21, 2017, 4:15 PM**

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Originally Posted by wave46

I'm kind of curious where they'll go from Thunder Bay.

Regina, Winnipeg and Saskatoon, certainly, but the Q400 won't make it to Calgary or Edmonton, which would be two big markets they'd be missing out on.

The idea of flying direct to downtown Toronto diminishes when you have to do a layover in Thunder Bay. Why bother when Westjet or Air Canada will take you to Pearson and you can take the train downtown? You'll probably come out ahead in travel time that way.

I guess they have to try something in the meantime, as Billy Bishop is mandated to hold the status quo for now.

Edit: Maybe they're doing what they do for Newfoundland, but out west?

YQT-YYC is 971 nm. Q400 range is 1100 nm. It will be tight with the headwinds, but is definately doable, even if they have to leave a few seats open. Not saying this is their plan, but if they want to enter the Alberta market, it's not ideal, but doable.

wave46 · #**5100** Posted **Sep 21, 2017, 4:36 PM**

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Originally Posted by thenoflyzone

YQT-YYC is 971 nm. Q400 range is 1100 nm. It will be tight with the headwinds, but is definately doable, even if they have to leave a few seats open. Not saying this is their plan, but if they want to enter the Alberta market, it's not ideal, but doable.

They do run YTZ-MLB in a load restricted fashion, which is close to that distance. 60 seats or something like that? To be fair, they don't usually have a headwind, as flights travelling east to west do.

It just destroys the economics of travel when you're not running full.