ATLANTA | Development Thread VI - Page 251

bigstick · #**5001** Posted **Sep 14, 2017, 11:27 AM**

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Originally Posted by RATBOYKEV

The Hyatt Midtown does look a million times better than the "Hotel Midtown" but this wasn't some visionary project. It was a hotel bought out of foreclosure and overdue for a room refresh / amenity upgrade & some nice new EIFS put up on its exterior.

Plus he removed the best part of the Campanile Bldg, and has yet to add the 10 stories???

Verge · #**5002** Posted **Sep 14, 2017, 12:01 PM**

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Originally Posted by RATBOYKEV

The Hyatt Midtown does look a million times better than the "Hotel Midtown" but this wasn't some visionary project. It was a hotel bought out of foreclosure and overdue for a room refresh / amenity upgrade & some nice new EIFS put up on its exterior.

FYI--
The exterior in not EIFS, but a high end fiber cement panels called Swiss Pearl--

Atlanta3000 · #**5003** Posted **Sep 14, 2017, 12:39 PM**

These U.S. cities have the best chance of being Amazon’s second headquarters

Clearly there is an obvious choice even if one (me) is biased.

https://www.recode.net/2017/9/9/16278136/amazon-jeff-bezos-top-cities-new-second-headquarters

arctk2014 · #**5004** Posted **Sep 14, 2017, 1:47 PM**

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Originally Posted by Atlanta3000

Well that "punk" took a POS ugly brick building on 10th Street and created the new Hyatt hotel. I guess that doesn't count.

Dewberry didn't do this project in the end because his plans weren't the end result. The Hyatt Midtown project was a Noble Investments redevelopment project and redesigned under their ownership/direction. The original brick facade had multiple water intrusion failures - ironically they also had waterproofing problems not long after the renovation due to improper flashing details (remember the scaffolding up not long after it reopened?)

testarossa50 · #**5005** Posted **Sep 14, 2017, 6:19 PM**

The airport travel time column on that seems fishy (why is Atlanta 22 minutes? The drive can easily be done in about 12 most times of day; Why does Washington get Reagan's travel distance instead of Dulles but Dallas has to use DFW?), but that's a pretty interesting comparison. Also lol @ $61/SF for office in Columbus.

Verge · #**5006** Posted **Sep 15, 2017, 2:15 PM**

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Originally Posted by testarossa50

The airport travel time column on that seems fishy (why is Atlanta 22 minutes? The drive can easily be done in about 12 most times of day; Why does Washington get Reagan's travel distance instead of Dulles but Dallas has to use DFW?), but that's a pretty interesting comparison. Also lol @ $61/SF for office in Columbus.

They must build office buildings out of sticks and grass in Columbus--

GeorgiaPeanuts · #**5007** Posted **Sep 15, 2017, 2:55 PM**

https://plandowntownatl.com/sites/plando...EMBER_PUBLICMEETING_RunningSlideshow.pdf

Downtown Master Plan

tdawg · #**5008** Posted **Sep 15, 2017, 2:59 PM**

Just scanned the downtown master plan. On the surface it's very slick and well done.

nature's calling · #**5009** Posted **Sep 15, 2017, 3:34 PM**

https://www.instagram.com/p/BZCN0GKhN1e/?tagged=midtownartwalk

Its coming (???) omg

MdtwnATL · #**5010** Posted **Sep 15, 2017, 4:03 PM**

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Originally Posted by nature's calling

https://www.instagram.com/p/BZCN0GKhN1e/?tagged=midtownartwalk

Its coming (???) omg

Yes, my dermatologist office is in that old house and they are getting ready to close it down.

Hokiehaven · #**5011** Posted **Sep 15, 2017, 4:42 PM**

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Originally Posted by Atlanta3000

These U.S. cities have the best chance of being Amazon’s second headquarters

Clearly there is an obvious choice even if one (me) is biased.

https://www.recode.net/2017/9/9/16278136/amazon-jeff-bezos-top-cities-new-second-headquarters

Back to your post a number of pages back, I agree, I think Amazon knows where they want to go or has a strong suspicion and just wants to force their hand to get the tax cuts/benefits for them.

If so, I'd say ATL would seem to be a serious contender, even if I have my doubts until it's announced.

Libertarian · #**5012** Posted **Sep 15, 2017, 6:10 PM**

The stated requirements are not necessarily the same as the actual. Jeff Bezos is a cheapo by nature and wants to undercut Seattle personnel costs while maintaining a quality workforce. Also he's fishing for the best tax incentives/subsidies. The first item is available here, the second is not (at least I hope not). Maybe he won't find the optimal anywhere else and will come to Atlanta by default.

Atlanta3000 · #**5013** Posted **Sep 15, 2017, 6:12 PM**

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Originally Posted by nature's calling

https://www.instagram.com/p/BZCN0GKhN1e/?tagged=midtownartwalk

Its coming (???) omg

This was announced December 7, 2016. To my knowledge, I have never heard of a $400 Million project announced and begin construction in < 1 year. If Selig breaks ground, but doesn't announce the lead tenant then it is good news a company that starts with the letter A is coming to Atlanta.

Atlanta3000 · #**5014** Posted **Sep 15, 2017, 6:21 PM**

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Originally Posted by Libertarian

The stated requirements are not necessarily the same as the actual. Jeff Bezos is a cheapo by nature and wants to undercut Seattle personnel costs while maintaining a quality workforce. Also he's fishing for the best tax incentives/subsidies. The first item is available here, the second is not (at least I hope not). Maybe he won't find the optimal anywhere else and will come to Atlanta by default.

Atlanta/Georgia will grab their ankles (offer tax incentives) to lure Amazon here. Another fact I read this week is that Atlanta and the State of GA have the best credit ratings in the country. Therefore, we can afford the infrastructure to support the growth. Normally I am against corporate welfare, but in this case I am not. If Amazon does come to Atlanta, it will force our State to invest in our infrastructure and finally adopt a 21st century strategy to mass transit.

Ant131531 · #**5015** Posted **Sep 15, 2017, 6:22 PM**

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Originally Posted by Atlanta3000

This was announced December 7, 2016. To my knowledge, I have never heard of a $400 Million project announced and begin construction in < 1 year. If Selig breaks ground, but doesn't announce the lead tenant then it is good news a company that starts with the letter A is coming to Atlanta.

AIG, right? That's another company that was looking to come to Atlanta that was discussed a lot about a year ago.

testarossa50 · #**5016** Posted **Sep 15, 2017, 6:24 PM**

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Originally Posted by Atlanta3000

This was announced December 7, 2016. To my knowledge, I have never heard of a $400 Million project announced and begin construction in < 1 year. If Selig breaks ground, but doesn't announce the lead tenant then it is good news a company that starts with the letter A is coming to Atlanta.

I actually don't want Amazon in Midtown. There's already plenty of momentum in Midtown, and the area has been a congested construction zone for years now. I'm ready for the pace to slow a little and the new projects to come online and fill up, and new residential/hotel/office projects to follow in the coming years.

Amazon will build like 10-15 new highrises in a few years, where ever it goes. Midtown would basically be a mess of construction and traffic for the foreseeable future, all in the name of building an Amazon-town that would crowd out future construction.

tdawg · #**5017** Posted **Sep 15, 2017, 6:24 PM**

I am in love with the design of that Selig project. It reminds me of a Norman Foster.

Atlanta3000 · #**5018** Posted **Sep 15, 2017, 6:32 PM**

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Originally Posted by Ant131531

AIG, right? That's another company that was looking to come to Atlanta that was discussed a lot about a year ago.

No silly - AMAZON. It could be AIG, but I think it takes something much bigger than AIG to get a project like this moving in this timeframe.

Ant131531 · #**5019** Posted **Sep 15, 2017, 6:34 PM**

Alson keep in mind, the Selig West Peachtree project will actually be taller than what is shown in that rendering. They increased the office space by about 125k square feet and the floors by about 6-7 so it's somewhere around 38 floors up from 32 so the project should be close to 600 feet...will definitely make an impact on the skyline.

Atlanta3000 · #**5020** Posted **Sep 15, 2017, 6:41 PM**

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Originally Posted by testarossa50

I actually don't want Amazon in Midtown. There's already plenty of momentum in Midtown, and the area has been a congested construction zone for years now. I'm ready for the pace to slow a little and the new projects to come online and fill up, and new residential/hotel/office projects to follow in the coming years.

Amazon will build like 10-15 new highrises in a few years, where ever it goes. Midtown would basically be a mess of construction and traffic for the foreseeable future, all in the name of building an Amazon-town that would crowd out future construction.

There is going to be a period in the near future the economy will slow down. At this point, you will see most if not all of these fancy new apartments take a major hit and our current vibrancy will turn to despair. Having Amazon in our future would create a floor to our economy that would be the envy of any city. It would also ensure vibrancy in our urban core would continue in any market condition.

Congested construction zones are a "Princess Problem" and that is life in the big city Testarossa50!