Great Canadian Skyline Thread II

[LeftCoaster]

Yes they did sell fast, and so will TDC3, but building to 200M and above requires very high sales/SF and the Montreal market just doesn't hit that kind of rate.

Montreal's affordable housing is a double edged sword in that regard, as the low cost of housing in the city make it very difficult/impossible to build tall or ostentatious buildings.

[GreaterMontréal]

Originally Posted by LeftCoaster

Yes they did sell fast, and so will TDC3, but building to 200M and above requires very high sales/SF and the Montreal market just doesn't hit that kind of rate.

Montreal's affordable housing is a double edged sword in that regard, as the low cost of housing in the city make it very difficult/impossible to build tall or ostentatious buildings.

if there would have been only 1 TDC, they could have built a 200m tower. the condos in the Four Seasons are in the $4M- $20M range

[sunsetmountainland]

Originally Posted by Monolith

Vancouver Aerial View by RudyMareelPhotography https://www.flickr.com/photos/69197709@N02/36056574493/

Beautiful picture of Vancouver only missing a clear shot of Mt Baker.

[TorontoDrew]

Yes. Then it would have been magical.



All kidding aside it is a great shot

[Pinion]

Originally Posted by sunsetmountainland

Beautiful picture of Vancouver only missing a clear shot of Mt Baker.

Mt Baker would be off the frame to the left in this one, you'd lose the west end/half of Stanley Park to fit it in.

[Monolith]

vancouver skyline by Damon Taylor, on Flickr


New Destiny by Jerry Meaden, on Flickr


Bridging The Gap 🏦🚗💨 Vancouver, BC by SeaSide Signs ~ Vancouver, Canada, on Flickr

[SkahHigh]

Photowalk ON 2017 by StephV909, sur Flickr

[itom 987]

Edmonton Panoramic by Joe Chowaniec, on Flickr

Edmonton Skyline by Tandareanu, on Flickr

[Rico Rommheim]

Originally Posted by SkahHigh

Photowalk ON 2017 by StephV909, sur Flickr

Funny how this is a great view of the downtown when there in person, but everytime I see a photo of it it seems so underwhelming.

[saffronleaf]

Originally Posted by Rico Rommheim

Funny how this is a great view of the downtown when there in person, but everytime I see a photo of it it seems so underwhelming.

Montreal is one of those cities that's best experienced by walking / biking around the city. The street-level experience is probably the best in Canada.

[Marshal]

1. Every city has those underwhelming angles.
2. Every city better be best experienced from within and bodily, otherwise its a disaster. We live 95% of our lives at that scale, from that perspective.
3. Has anyone ever heard that about Montreal before? Thought so.
4. Edmonton is in for a gigantic change: the look of its skyline and the look from the sidewalk.

[FrankieFlowerpot]

London, ON

[Metro-One]

Originally Posted by Marshal

1. Every city has those underwhelming angles.
2. Every city better be best experienced from within and bodily, otherwise its a disaster. We live 95% of our lives at that scale, from that perspective.
3. Has anyone ever heard that about Montreal before? Thought so.
4. Edmonton is in for a gigantic change: the look of its skyline and the look from the sidewalk.

I wouldn't worry too much about it.

I actually agree that out of all the big cities in Canada Montreal does have best ground level refinement in the urban core.

That said I personally feel that Vancouver and Calgary would tie for second place (each city for different aspects though, Vancouver does an amazing job with water features).

In third would be Toronto. Although it has the best skyline by far IMO, I do feel that overall the pedestrian level of the streets could be improved (although there are areas that are amazing).

Fourth would be Ottawa, and fifth would be Edmonton.

This said all of Canada's major cities seem to be making big improvements in this realm.

Just my opinion and not trying to trash talk about anywhere.

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by Metro-One

I wouldn't worry too much about it.

I actually agree that out of all the big cities in Canada Montreal does have best ground level refinement in the urban core.

That said I personally feel that Vancouver and Calgary would tie for second place (each city for different aspects though, Vancouver does an amazing job with water features).

In third would be Toronto. Although it has the best skyline by far IMO, I do feel that overall the pedestrian level of the streets could be improved (although there are areas that are amazing).

Fourth would be Ottawa, and fifth would be Edmonton.

This said all of Canada's major cities seem to be making big improvements in this realm.

Just my opinion and not trying to trash talk about anywhere.

That's interesting.

Outside of the Big Three, I would probably rank Ottawa and Quebec City in a tie for fourth place in terms of "ground level refinement".

[Metro-One]

I didn't include Quebec City (or Winnipeg / Hamilton) just because I was only thinking about our five "million+" cities.

If including them the top 3 spots for me would probably remain the same but after that things get much more tricky.

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by Metro-One

I didn't include Quebec City (or Winnipeg / Hamilton) just because I was only thinking about our five "million+" cities.

If including them the top 3 spots for me would probably remain the same but after that things get much more tricky.

On this specific metric, a number of cities in Canada could IMO jump ahead of fairly larger cities than them. Halifax and Victoria come to mind.

[Metro-One]

I would agree with that.

[rousseau]

Originally Posted by Metro-One

I actually agree that out of all the big cities in Canada Montreal does have best ground level refinement in the urban core.

That said I personally feel that Vancouver and Calgary would tie for second place (each city for different aspects though, Vancouver does an amazing job with water features).

In third would be Toronto.

Okay, I'll bite: what definition of "ground level refinement" could you possibly be using in your universe where Vancouver and Calgary have a superior pedestrian street level experience to Toronto?

Back here on earth:

1. Montreal (obviously)
2. Toronto (obviously)
3. Quebec City (obviously)
4. Vancouver
5. Victoria
6. Ottawa
7. Who cares?
8. Who cares?
9. Who cares?
10. Who cares?

[jmt18325]

Originally Posted by rousseau

Okay, I'll bite: what definition of "ground level refinement" could you possibly be using in your universe where Vancouver and Calgary have a superior pedestrian street level experience to Toronto?

Back here on earth:

1. Montreal (obviously)
2. Toronto (obviously)
3. Quebec City (obviously)
4. Vancouver
5. Victoria
6. Ottawa
7. Who cares?
8. Who cares?
9. Who cares?
10. Who cares?

With the caveat that I've never been to Victoria, I'd mostly agree with that. I would say though, that I'm not sure I'd actually put Vancouver above Ottawa. I just don't get the same feel from it that I did from the other cities on the list.

[rousseau]

Originally Posted by jmt18325

With the caveat that I've never been to Victoria, I'd mostly agree with that. I would say though, that I'm not sure I'd actually put Vancouver above Ottawa. I just don't get the same feel from it that I did from the other cities on the list.

Have a look around here: https://www.google.ca/maps/@49.2832682,-..._oUTRy6KT7vil5sQc8d9A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Gastown is Vancouver's one genuinely nice streetscape and pedestrian experience. Ottawa has nothing to rival it, which is why I'd put Vancouver over Ottawa.