Atlanta Project Thread IV

[Martinman]

Originally Posted by Omaharocks

Martinman, much of what Street Advocate describes are very basic urban design principles that have been proven to have merit even in urban core settings like Midtown and Downtown. Unfortunately they are rarely applied in Atlanta, but they should be considered absolutely essential in this context, where building 18 story buildings will contribute nothing to the walkability, tree canopy, or overall livability along Ponce/Glen Iris/North. It also sets a bad precedent for the scale of buildings along the Beltline and as Street Advocate mentions, continues the inward-focus of so many of Atlanta's major developments. Atlanta doesn't need anymore high-rise zones, it needs to continue filling those that already exist.

As was mentioned in another thread, we need to beat the drum for more developments like 764 Memorial - appropriately scaled, with quality materials.

Actually, the precedent for buildings of this scale along the Beltline has already been set. http://725ponce.com.

Whether a building is a highrise or not is irrelevant to its street presence. Thats just a matter of its design. We have plenty of mid-rise buildings with a terrible street presence. I agree 100% that the Atlanta needs more mid-rise and small-scale infill and better planning overall but not to the exclusion of higher density where it's appropriate. I feel it is appropriate here at the junction of two future LR lines and two major roads but I actually don't care whether it is 18 stories or five stories as long as it's a walkable development.

Based on their track record, I happen to have a high degree of confidence that this developer will deliver a product that in fact does contribute to the walkability of Glen Iris and North Avenue. I'm actually at a loss as to how this particular development is inward focused when it appears to have retail/active uses along both streets.

[AtlantaMustang]

Originally Posted by Street Advocate

Speaking of, someone mentioned in another thread atlanta loop provided more renderings:



I do not enjoy the Glen Iris proposal. From the low-rise portion to the high-rise, seems poorly thought out. I do, however, enjoy the large sidewalks.

My only complaint is that I wish they'd pull the low-rise building closer to
Ponce and do more planter style trees along the sidewalk with patios against the building. No one will sit in umbrella seats right on Ponce away from the building. Pull the retail closer to activate the street and put those trees and little patches of grass in the space between the hotel and the low-rise.

Once the old cactus carwash gets redeveloped this will be a nice little strip of activity along Glen Iris.

[Street Advocate]

Originally Posted by AtlantaMustang

My only complaint is that I wish they'd pull the low-rise building closer to
Ponce and do more planter style trees along the sidewalk with patios against the building. No one will sit in umbrella seats right on Ponce away from the building. Pull the retail closer to activate the street and put those trees and little patches of grass in the space between the hotel and the low-rise.

Once the old cactus carwash gets redeveloped this will be a nice little strip of activity along Glen Iris.

Trees as buffers between the road and sidewalk along Ponce, too. Would also force the pedestrians to be closer to the retail and provide more shade all over.

[Street Advocate]

Originally Posted by Martinman

Based on their track record, I happen to have a high degree of confidence that this developer will deliver a product that in fact does contribute to the walkability of Glen Iris and North Avenue. I'm actually at a loss as to how this particular development is inward focused when it appears to have retail/active uses along both streets.

I absolutely agree with you about ensuring having an active street presence and generally agree with you about the developer, although I simply disagree this design (I know it's a work in progress) would be the best use of space for creating a continuous neighborhood or to support a successful TOD. Feels more like a buffer from the neighborhood and the hotel is merely to finance their own retail. Good for the developer, bad for the community. I can get over the height even though it's pretty stupid IMO to surround PCM with towers. I cannot get over gimmicky uses of space.

I'd love to see a rendering of the new proposal next to 725 ponce to get a better feel of the final product.

[smArTaLlone]

An Atlanta developer with numerous hotels under its belt could be trying for one across from the Georgia Aquarium.

Songy Highroads filed permits this month to turn an abandoned, two-story commercial building off Luckie Street into a hotel. A special administrative permit would allow the company to build a hotel of up to 300K SF at 300 Luckie St. — next door to Downtown Atlanta's Hilton Garden Inn. Songy Highroads CEO David Songy said the firm has the site under contract and is conducting a feasibility study on the site for its “highest and best use.”

https://www.bisnow.com/atlanta/news/hotel/songy-eyeing-hotel-across-from-aquarium-76984

[smArTaLlone]

Newport US RE purchased buildings along Broad Street, which will become part of a sweeping south downtown redevelopment of eight blocks and up to 750,000 square feet. It will include a mix of street-level retail, offices and residential units.

https://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/news...landmark-millers-rexall-building-to.html

[smArTaLlone]

Edit: This is the JLB Partners project at 99 West Paces Ferry

The project’s first phase along West Paces would include 339 multifamily units and 7,600 square feet of commercial space. A second phase on Paces Ferry Place would add 186 multifamily units and 8,500 square feet of street-level live-work space.

https://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/news...76&utm_medium=social&utm_source=multiple

[smArTaLlone]

The brewery will be a part of the Beltline adjacent development called Common Ground.

Atlanta-based Third & Urban has revealed its vision for the former Western Electric Building along the BeltLine. Called Common Ground, Third & Urban plans to redevelop the property at 550 Somerset Terrace that will include a New Realm Brewing Co. brewery along with two restaurant concepts by The Diligence Co. Diligence plans to open a European and Latin-inspired brasserie called Bazati Hall and a 3K SF rooftop champagne and cocktail bar called Estrella.

https://www.bisnow.com/atlanta/news/mixe...n=tue-01-aug-2017-000000-0500_atlanta-re



https://whatnowatlanta.com/beltline-adjacent-new-realm-brewing-releases-rendering-details/

[Street Advocate]

Originally Posted by smArTaLlone

https://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/news...76&utm_medium=social&utm_source=multiple

If only these dense developments in Buckhead were adjacent to Midtown and Piedmont park. Seemingly really interesting designs going in over there.

@ that EST developments looks quality. Glad to see more stores going in interacting with the environment. This stretch back toward Piedmont Park could use a lot more infill and interaction.

[smArTaLlone]

Additional renderings from ai3




http://ai3online.com/results_atlanta-beltline.html

[trainiac]

Originally Posted by smArTaLlone

Additional renderings from ai3

This is a huge deal. Mitch Steele was the head brewer at Stone in San Diego for 10 years. As far as I know, New Realm Brewing will be his first project since leaving them last summer. He helped build Stone up to a top 10 craft brewery and he is well-loved by the industry. I know we're already "on the beer map" but Timmy (Max Lager, Wrecking Bar) should be opening his place on the west side trail in the next year near Wild Heaven's under construction facility. Sweet water and Orpheus are already adjacent to Beltline ROW.

This is soooooo cool!

[Street Advocate]

Originally Posted by smArTaLlone

http://ai3online.com/results_atlanta-beltline.html

I would love if they brought back that mural...

@trainiac, I too am very excited for this project. Will be nice having a brewery along the built-out section of the EST and I enjoy that breweries are taking the first leap at other sections of the trail. Parks and beer. A match made in Atlanta

This project, "The Edge", and studioplex developments are finally bringing swaths of retail interacting with the BeltLine. What a great year for Atlanta.

[montydawg]

Originally Posted by Street Advocate

I would love if they brought back that mural...

I agree- I was so sad to see that mural painted over. As for the renderings, I like the concept depicted with the shipping containers better than the other concept pulled from Ai3's website. It seems the 'shipping container' concept preserves the warehouse building a little better, and the overall design looks more symmetrical and pleasing to the eye in my opinion. it is hard to tell which is the more evolved concept. Can't wait for this to open!

[3yonce]

Originally Posted by Street Advocate

This project, "The Edge", and studioplex developments are finally bringing swaths of retail interacting with the BeltLine. What a great year for Atlanta.

Yeah, I hope these projects set a precedent for future Beltline-adjacent developments. I'm tired of walking past driveways and fences.

[joecool]

Originally Posted by AtlantaMustang

My only complaint is that I wish they'd pull the low-rise building closer to
Ponce and do more planter style trees along the sidewalk with patios against the building. No one will sit in umbrella seats right on Ponce away from the building. Pull the retail closer to activate the street and put those trees and little patches of grass in the space between the hotel and the low-rise.

Once the old cactus carwash gets redeveloped this will be a nice little strip of activity along Glen Iris.

What type of time-frame are we looking at for any of these to start/break ground?

[nmadsen]

via: https://atlanta.curbed.com/2017/8/2/16080504/georgia-dome-hotel-renderings-gwcca

[nmadsen]

Forgot this one:


Kinda reminds me of 1180 peachtree without the curved "ears". Also, is that a helicopter at the top? Surely they wouldn't land between those ears right?

[daharris80]

Originally Posted by nmadsen

Also, is that a helicopter at the top? Surely they wouldn't land between those ears right?

That's Arthur Blank's reserved parking spot.

[dmbolp]

The Byron welcome center is open, apartments on the SE corner of Peachtree and Linden. Person at the welcome center mentioned a proposed 10 story hotel for the NW corner, currently a surface parking lot for Emory Hospital. Hope it's something shorter, so as not to block our view from the Reynolds building.

http://thebyron.com/

[alco89]

Originally Posted by dmbolp

Person at the welcome center mentioned a proposed 10 story hotel for the NW corner, currently a surface parking lot for Emory Hospital. Hope it's something shorter, so as not to block our view from the Reynolds building.

http://thebyron.com/

Sounds good. Sorry about your view, but I actually hope it's taller than 10 stories, especially being right next to the tallest building in the south.