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Old Posted Jul 25, 2017, 2:44 PM
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You'll know it when you see it. It stands out like a dress shirt with the winkles from its factory fold still visible.
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Old Posted Jul 25, 2017, 3:40 PM
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Your work is quite different than mine but I totally deal with the type of guys who try to pull off the same stuff. Those types of guys never liked being questioned or challenged.

I can't get into specifics but I work in government services and deal with people applying for financial assistance. It is almost entirely white men who lie on paperwork about income and other information. They think they can qualify for benefits by not being truthful. The funny thing is that they are too stupid to realize that the form they signed gives consent for me to verify their information with the CRA and other provincial government departments and agencies.

And almost all of them drive pickup trucks and many of them are new and expensive ones. I can find out what vehicles they own. I have to be polite and professional with my clients and it's sometimes interesting to see how they try to change their stories or make excuses when I ask why the information from my checks doesn't match what they claimed on the application forms.


Getting back to the topic of this thread:

Who can find the ugliest pickup truck in Canada! I don't necessarily mean run down but also ugly in design, decor, driver, etc.
There are too many in my city to narrow it down to one. Duallies with lift kits and truck balls. $80K penis extensions are so common here as to become invisible.
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 25, 2017, 3:42 PM
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You'll know it when you see it. It stands out like a dress shirt with the winkles from its factory fold still visible.
Yes, I know that look of the shirt with the factory folds still prominent. Usually worn by people who don't wear dress shirts or suits very often unless they are the accused.
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 25, 2017, 5:03 PM
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Asinine and ugly:
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showpost.php?p=7874966&postcount=1

I am much stupider for having read that post.
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Old Posted Jul 25, 2017, 5:06 PM
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Depends on how you define "provoke", but I'm pretty certain the guy on the bike made a conscious decision to stop and engage "Club Guy". I don't see how "Bike Guy" would have possibly gotten caught by a guy on foot, except willingly.

If "Bike Guy" had decided "screw this guy, I'm just going to ignore him and continue pedaling at my full speed in the direction I was headed" I don't see how it could've gotten to the point of clubbing.
I don't think so. How many people carry a club with them? This fucking asshole was just waiting to dish it out. He was a ticking time bomb.

Besides, how can you be "pretty certain"?

Frankly, who gives a shit what happened before? There is no fucking excuse for this deplorable behavior, which I think deserves a stiff jail sentence, at the very least.
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Old Posted Jul 25, 2017, 5:12 PM
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To me, pickup trucks are fundamentally ugly and I don't have much in common with those who willingly purchase them (to me unless you're a farmer or construction worker/contractor I don't see the point in them), but these are the creme de la creme in fugly.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_Avalanche#/media/File:1st-Chevrolet-Avalanche.jpg
Agreed. I find pickup trucks to be fundamentally ugly and many of the people that buy them probably do not need them.

If you are a working man (construction, plumber, whatnot), wouldn't you typically want a van?
I didn't see any pickup trucks in Europe. Surely their economy is not so fundamentally different than ours?
Pickup trucks are part of the vernacular of North American culture. When undereducated macho meets (relatively) cheap gasoline, and aggressive marketing. Pickup trucks are the Budweiser of the vehicle world.

These things are hideous:


Dodgey quality.
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In your car or on your bike, if that face in your rearview mirror looks extremely angry, its frowning eyes slits and its horrible teeth bared, with muscles bulging as if about to pounce and tear your heart out and stomp on it—then it’s a recent-model pickup truck. The actual driver of the pickup might be a jolly person but the message you get is, let’s say, otherwise.

FITGardenerThe New York Times (“A Truck Tailgate Party: Fire Up the Grilles,” May 17) has some frank quotes about how pickups are purposely designed to make everyone nervous about their intentions. The designer of the new Silverado describes the design of that truck as “a fist in the wind,” and everyone’s trying to design an “aggressive appearance.” The new Ford pickup has a grille that “forms a shape that suggests the nostrils of a bull,” and so on. The Ram is… a ram.
http://www.corvallisadvocate.com/2013/0530-the-face-in-the-rearview-mirror/

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Manufacturers present trucks primarily as work tools, but despite the ads featuring cowboys, farmers and construction workers, more and more trucks are being used partly — or mostly — as family vehicles.
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For decades, trucks looked like basic metal boxes. Then Dodge offered up a bold new look for its Ram for the 1994 model year. Under Tom Gale, then the design chief for Chrysler, the pickup added a touch of fantasy to the utilitarian box. With its arched grille and raised hood, the Ram resembled the cab of a mighty 18-wheeler.

Today’s Ram designers call it “the big-rig look,” said Mr. Dehner. “We own that.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/19/automobiles/tailgate-party-fire-up-the-grilles.html
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Old Posted Jul 25, 2017, 5:15 PM
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Like a modern El Camino.
Nah, the Avalanche is much closer functionally to just being a crew cab pickup with full-size rear doors and a tiny bed.

If you want a modern El Camino look to Australia. GM is just discontinuing their Australian model line and Ford did that too a while ago, but there will still plenty of modern, recent Utes on their roads for a long time.

Alternatively, on this continent, and much closer to home, you can find this:

http://www.chevrolet.com.mx/tornado-2018-camioneta-pick-up.html
     
     
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Besides, how can you be "pretty certain"?
I explained above that I don't see how a cyclist would, in the absence of any traffic, let themselves be caught by a 65-years-old man on foot except willingly (to engage them). If you bike yourself, you must know that?

I'm far from saying it's the cyclist's fault, just saying there's "pretty certainly" a prelude to the clubbing that we aren't seeing.
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 25, 2017, 5:24 PM
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Asinine and ugly:
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showpost.php?p=7874966&postcount=1

I am much stupider for having read that post.
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If you are a working man (construction, plumber, whatnot), wouldn't you typically want a van?
Some do. For example, in trades like plumbing, you don't need a pickup so nearly everyone has a van.

Pickup advantages over vans:

1) 4x4

2) The ability to seat more than two.

3) Open bed is more convenient for dirty stuff, tall stuff, and anything that has to be dropped from above

4) Easier to work on. A van's engine is not easily accessible. I've owned some of each and worked on each, it's a huge difference even when we're talking about the exact same drivetrains.
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 25, 2017, 5:28 PM
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Nah, the Avalanche is much closer functionally to just being a crew cab pickup with full-size rear doors and a tiny bed.

If you want a modern El Camino look to Australia. GM is just discontinuing their Australian model line and Ford did that too a while ago, but there will still plenty of modern, recent Utes on their roads for a long time.

Alternatively, on this continent, and much closer to home, you can find this:

http://www.chevrolet.com.mx/tornado-2018-camioneta-pick-up.html
Fuck that's ugly. It's a van/truck.
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 25, 2017, 5:30 PM
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For decades, trucks looked like basic metal boxes. Then Dodge offered up a bold new look for its Ram for the 1994 model year.
The slow evolution of trucks from utilitarian to "personal vehicles" had started WAY before that. It's been going on since the early 1950s at least.

Dodge did start the "Big Rig" look trend with the '94 but that's totally unrelated to selling trucks as cars. If you want to find a watershed moment for trucks that were obviously designed to be also sold as cars, I'd say the new GMT400 trucks that GM introduced in the spring of 1987 are it.
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 25, 2017, 5:31 PM
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Fuck that's ugly. It's a van/truck.
All the Latin American Chevy models are locally designed and (IMHO) ugly as fuck. This one is simply normal.

And it's 100% a car, just with a bed. It's the El Camino to the Malibu that is the South American Chevrolet Agile:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_Agile
     
     
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Here, the worst have black everything, including heavily tinted windows. Raised. Alberta plates with an island of Newfoundland outline map on the bac.
You forgot "The Rock" in stylized letters below the graphic

Those trucks were ubiquitous in Edmonton until last year. Seems a great many went home
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Old Posted Jul 25, 2017, 5:39 PM
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I explained above that I don't see how a cyclist would, in the absence of any traffic, let themselves be caught by a 65-years-old man on foot except willingly (to engage them). If you bike yourself, you must know that?

I'm far from saying it's the cyclist's fault, just saying there's "pretty certainly" a prelude to the clubbing that we aren't seeing.
A prelude to a clubbing?
     
     
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To me, pickup trucks are fundamentally ugly and I don't have much in common with those who willingly purchase them (to me unless you're a farmer or construction worker/contractor I don't see the point in them)]
I do have a truck (a Toyota Tacoma) I don't drive it much, but it is super handy for a lot of things. I have several rental properties and a cabin in BC, and the truck makes life so much easier when it comes to hauling stuff, or doing renovations, picking up a load of dirt, etc

However my truck is not modified in any way, it's filthy and scratched up, I can throw a load of broken cinderblocks in the back to take to the dump or use it to pull down a shed or take it down the narrow steep path through the trees down to the lake at my cottage while dragging tree branches down the sides... don't care. It'a truck.

My Toyota probably does more real work than 90% of the shiny jacked up rig rockets you see on the road
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A prelude to a clubbing?
sounds terrible, right? Like saying the wife 'asked for it', because she was being 'lippy'.
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You forgot "The Rock" in stylized letters below the graphic

Those trucks were ubiquitous in Edmonton until last year. Seems a great many went home
Saw many here as well.
     
     
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A prelude to a clubbing?
Yep, it's all but guaranteed there's lots that happened before the beginning of the available video. Why has the cyclist stopped?
     
     
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sounds terrible, right? Like saying the wife 'asked for it', because she was being 'lippy'.
I didn't say that at all. However, I'll say that if people wanted to give more attention to defusing potential road rage incidents we'd probably see less of them. There are many ways to interact with an irrational angry nutcase when you happen to encounter one, and they all have very different outcomes.
     
     
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