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Nice. This project is worthy of its own thread now.

It's good to see this one moving forward since anything attached to Sutton brings on the skepticism. While 40-stories is nice, that doesn't quite live up to the initial hype. But then, again virtually no project lives up to the initial hype.
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Old Posted Jul 12, 2017, 3:10 AM
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Nice. This project is worthy of its own thread now.

It's good to see this one moving forward since anything attached to Sutton brings on the skepticism. While 40-stories is nice, that doesn't quite live up to the initial hype. But then, again virtually no project lives up to the initial hype.
Anything attached to Sutton clearly gets sold to another developer who has the heft to make a project actually come to fruition.
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Old Posted Jul 12, 2017, 4:12 AM
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Anything attached to Sutton clearly gets sold to another developer who has the heft to make a project actually come to fruition.
Like Millennium Rainey. I wish Sutton could sell the WPP site to an actual developer because that one is ready to go with an approved site plan.
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While 40-stories is nice...
I kind of disagree. I'd rather nothing than something bland. This quote doesn't bode well for the potential aesthetics of the project:

"Ip said Genesis has 'no desire' to build the tallest building in Austin, nor does it aspire to be 'the hippest property.'"
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It could also mean that they don't want to create a Dubai-style tower that's too loud and flashy. They could mean classy and timeless...who knows? Let's wait until we see a rendering. I absolutely agree, however, that we don't need a bland, boring, rectangular box with no interesting features whatsoever. An interesting building doesn't have to be the tallest or the flashiest.
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I believe just the northern-most piece is in play, closer to Bouldin Creek.
Curious as to how much of that area is being considered, and what could go there. That area's rocky and steep from what I can tell.
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Hey, does anyone know if anything is going on or planned for the old post office site?
I know it isn't the post office site proper, but 600 Guadalupe may be getting redeveloped soon. The link below takes you too a drone shoot done for a commercial client. The highest images come in at 773 feet.

http://panowings.com/folders/600guadalupe/
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I know it isn't the post office site proper, but 600 Guadalupe may be getting redeveloped soon. The link below takes you too a drone shoot done for a commercial client. The highest images come in at 773 feet.

http://panowings.com/folders/600guadalupe/
That's the Extended Stay hotel. Sutton had it but now Lincoln Property Company controls that site. I don't know if they bought it or partnered on it, but they are planning an office building there. Those are some very specific heights - 419 feet and 773 feet. Developers usually get these panorama shots done to market the views to potential investors and/or tenants of their future buildings. Whether or not that is what this is, I have no idea.
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I know it isn't the post office site proper, but 600 Guadalupe may be getting redeveloped soon. The link below takes you too a drone shoot done for a commercial client. The highest images come in at 773 feet.

http://panowings.com/folders/600guadalupe/
That's very interesting. That would go along with what scraperwill said about 600 Guadalupe which is the motel site that had a CVC filing late last year.
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This is from the CVC determination. Half of the block is good to go up!


https://abc.austintexas.gov/web/perm...rtyrsn=1126127
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Two months after the 600 Guadalupe CVC determination request, a "development related" tree survey was done of the block. This is from the end of December and Sutton's name was still on the documents.


https://abc.austintexas.gov/attachme...7z0lzuJxrs7%2F
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Are you guys talking about 600 Guadalupe or SSP?
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Are you guys talking about 600 Guadalupe or SSP?
I'm talking abut the panowings link a few posts above. I just spent about 20 minutes playing around on it.
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The Panowing views at 773' are incredible. Based on the construction progress of the buildings in the views, the drone pano could be from this past week.
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Are you guys talking about 600 Guadalupe or SSP?
Ha! SSP, natch. Where else are you going to find such obscure but completely golden links? Plus, the advance intel on new stuff is just staggering. Regularly scooping the media by months.

So panowings is totally awesome, too.... interesting how dense we look at '419 (when the camera is still within the vicinity of the Austin Plateau) vs how dense '773 looks -- with nothing nearly that height, and all the surrounding parking lots and single story buildings exposed.
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Those are very specific heights. If those are potential views for marketing purposes, then a structural height is likely 20-30' higher than the top level view height, so (potentially) around an 800' building.
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Those are very specific heights. If those are potential views for marketing purposes, then a structural height is likely 20-30' higher than the top level view height, so (potentially) around an 800' building.
Exactly. Since this potential new tallest actually has some permit filings, it has some credibility. The drone shots and some reliable SSP insider info add some good corroborating evidence to this project as well.
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With our water front starting to fill in a bit, it makes sense that we'd start getting some taller ones further north in downtown. That's pretty much how I've always assumed it would be. The river flowing through our downtown is fairly wide and the whole area around it creates parkland. It's not like in a few other cities with narrow rivers that flow through the heart of their downtowns where they're lined with buildings right up to the water's edge in places. I sort of like the idea of having the taller buildings be farther away from the river, not because of Nimby sentiments, but because I think it'll make the skyline appear more interesting. I don't know. I just think a 700 or 800 foot building or even 600 foot one so close to the water would look a bit strange. The Austonian is at least two blocks north of the river. Besides, I'd rather be able to see a couple of 400 footers stepping up to an 800 footer (more layers and more buildings) than one single building blocking the others. Once the water front is completely filled in, we'll be appreciating any taller buildings that happen farther north so their construction can be seen from the river and parkland to the south of downtown. There really aren't many good vantage points of the north side of downtown and the northwest side of downtown to watch those areas fill in much, so having something taller than can be seen from farther away I think will be appreciated.
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