Salt Lake City: Official Development News Thread - Part 5 - Page 10

Merewether · #**181** Posted **Jul 10, 2017, 2:32 AM**

While hunting for a new iPad keyboard I came across this video promoting Zagg. There is an obvious quick shot of the skybridge at City Creek. The view out the windows of the office shown is just in focus enough to tantalize with some slightly familiar glimpses. I am pretty sure I have figured out the vantage point but won't reveal it yet so those of you who want to test your visual memory might have a challenge.

https://youtu.be/s4mRn2oX6HA

EPdesign · #**182** Posted **Jul 10, 2017, 3:20 AM**

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Originally Posted by Merewether

While hunting for a new iPad keyboard I came across this video promoting Zagg. There is an obvious quick shot of the skybridge at City Creek. The view out the windows of the office shown is just in focus enough to tantalize with some slightly familiar glimpses. I am pretty sure I have figured out the vantage point but won't reveal it yet so those of you who want to test your visual memory might have a challenge.

https://youtu.be/s4mRn2oX6HA

so that's what the interior looks like.

bob rulz · #**183** Posted **Jul 10, 2017, 10:52 AM**

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Originally Posted by ajiuO

I think a big part of the homeless problem is substance abuse. I can go stand by my window anytime I like and am pretty much guaranteed to see somebody thats either stoned or drunk walk by within 10 minutes. This is a really hard problem to address because a person has to want to get off the drugs in order to be successful.

I don’t really believe that we should put people in jail for using drugs... in fact I don’t even think they should be against the law. If somone wants to have that life then let them... but I also don’t think that we should have to take care of thoes people who make thoes bad choices for themselves... we should however be much more strict on other crimes that are commonly associated with drugs.

I do think that we should offer help and rehabilitation for thoes who want to get off the drugs and do somthing more productive... but you can’t force somone. I also think we need to beter educate our children on their own choices... don’t just say this is taboo. You shouldn’t do it... that will just intrigue them and feed into their naturally rebellious nature... We should just say “if you want to do drugs that’s your choice, but this is how you’re going to end up”

A lot of people who stay addicted to drugs are that way because of genetic weaknesses and flaws that cause them to be over compulsive, susceptible to addiction, manically depressed, and so on. It like we try to save these people and give them more opertunity to reproduce and pass on their flaws. I’m not saying we should kill people off or anything... but just let them have their way. Nature will take care of it self... I know it sounds horrible but why do you think you can’t go out in the wild and find lazy tigers who just lay around all day and let other tigers bring them food? I’m sure they have been born, but their own flaws kill them before they can can reproduce and pass it on... If we just let the druggies be, their weakness would eventually kill them off, and then we are left with people who don’t have thoes tendencies... and I mean it’s their own choice.

K that my weird rant (more like thinking out loud) that no one will agree with for the month

You're right, if people make poor decisions in life we should just let them die.

Marvland · #**184** Posted **Jul 10, 2017, 6:14 PM**

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All because of a fucking liquor license... seriously how hard would it have been to resolve this issue... It’s almost like they create all the red tape and bureaucracy just so they can use it as an excuse to sit on their asses and never accomplish anything.

I actually thought that the place had already closed. There was a sign on the door for a while. I can’t remember exactly what it said but it was somthing like “we are not a bar and we are not a restaurant so we are closed”.

They failed to report a transfer of ownership in the booze license. That will get your license suspended or revoked in all 50 states. Food was not good and the concept had runs its course. Sad to see the nameplate go but it was a mess.

Orlando · #**185** Posted **Jul 10, 2017, 7:41 PM**

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Originally Posted by TonyAnderson

What does he think of the new mayor?

Not much to discuss other than the fact that she fired a lot of people and has not been able to replace them, and therefore inaction. He didn't make any comment whether or not she was a good or bad mayor. This was only in relation to my asking about why some projects he and I were both working on, kind of just faded away, or put on the backburner.

Utah_Dave · #**186** Posted **Jul 10, 2017, 9:42 PM**

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Originally Posted by Orlando

Not much to discuss other than the fact that she fired a lot of people and has not been able to replace them, and therefore inaction. He didn't make any comment whether or not she was a good or bad mayor. This was only in relation to my asking about why some projects he and I were both working on, kind of just faded away, or put on the backburner.

What Projects? Could you go into a little more detail?

delts145 · #**187** Posted **Jul 11, 2017, 11:26 AM**

Photo Bump

Downtown Update - Hardware Village

Mike Gorrell for the Salt Lake Tribune

A development just north of SLC’s downtown is betting on Hardware http://www.sltrib.com/home/5454142-1...-north-of-slcs

A couple of dozen construction workers hustled about Wednesday in the subterranean foundation for the next building being erected in the face-lift of 400 West north of North Temple.

They're laying the groundwork for what will be part of Hardware District, a $275 million mixed-use project that SALT Development is building on the west side of 400 West between 200 North and North Temple (around the historic Salt Lake Hardware Building).

The just-emerging seven-story building, along with another seven-story structure directly to the west, which is much farther along, will contain 466 residential units — from one- and two-bedroom units to much larger brownstones on the ground level.

To the south will be two office buildings. One will be a 10-story tower, with seven floors of offices (200,00 square feet) on top of three levels of parking (800 stalls).

The second is projected to be four stories, made of heavy timber and glass to establish a creative ambiance throughout its 60,000 square feet of space.
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"Hardware District is the perfect complement to 4th West Apartments," he said, "as it provides a sense of community with first-class living" and amenities such as barbecue pits, a pool, spas, a fitness center and a library lounge with a bar and a two-story waterfall.

The first Hardware District residential units are expected to hit the market in February. The opening of Hardware West is scheduled to introduce 48 studio apartments, 134 one-bedroom units and 83 two-bedroom units.

"The ground floor will have 37 two-story brownstone town homes averaging 1,400 square feet," Vegh said. The five brownstones in Hardware East will be about 1,500 square feet, he added, noting that most units in both buildings will have 10-foot ceilings.

They are scheduled to open in August 2018.

Issac Riddle Reports - Construction Reaches The Halfway Mark - http://www.buildingsaltlake.com/firs...-halfway-mark/

Source: BuildingSaltLake.com

http://www.buildingsaltlake.com/firs...-halfway-mark/

Construction is underway on the Hardware East building. Photo by Isaac Riddle.

Construction Update Pics from the Salt Lake Tribune:

http://www.sltrib.com

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ajiuO · #**188** Posted **Jul 11, 2017, 7:14 PM**

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Originally Posted by bob rulz

You're right, if people make poor decisions in life we should just let them die.

Not what I said. We should educate people on what poor decisions are, but still allow people to make their own decisions. Most people who are addicted to drugs know that they are probably going end up dead or in a bad place. If they want to change that then they can seek out help... and as I said I’m all for helping people who want it. What I’m not for is wasting time and recsorces on people who don’t want help. You can’t force anyone to do anything. Trying to forcibly help a drug addict is like making laws outlawing suicide... pointless. I mean if you know someone who is on drugs sometimes talking to them can help them to see things difrently, but it’s still up to them.

JMK · #**189** Posted **Jul 11, 2017, 7:56 PM**

The marquee is down

msbutah · #**190** Posted **Jul 11, 2017, 9:03 PM**

A shot of downtown from the Jordan River Trail, from this reddit post.

delts145 · #**191** Posted **Jul 11, 2017, 10:55 PM**

Cool pic! I've often been curious about what's behind that ridge line high above and on the other side of the mountain from the avenues? I've never explored the other side. What Canyon is that? Would there be access up in there from City Creek Canyon? I guess that would be a possibility. My imagination is running wild and thinking of what it would be like to have a ski resort up there on the north facing slopes side of the ridge. In addition to the traditional highway through the base of the Canyon on the other side, there would be gondola access somewhere from the Capitol Hill side. I know, just a crazy thought. Hmm, that whole area on the other side has me fascinated. Such as the other side of the high point of the mountain slopes to the far right. What kind of north facing ski slopes are behind there? HA!! Now that would be putting an exclamation on downtown proximity to the ski resorts.

delts145 · #**192** Posted **Jul 11, 2017, 11:25 PM**

Oh okay. I see where I guess that's the 'City Creek Canyon Nature Preserve' behind there.

airhero · #**193** Posted **Jul 11, 2017, 11:36 PM**

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Originally Posted by delts145

Cool pic! I've often been curious about what's behind that ridge line high above and on the other side of the mountain from the avenues? I've never explored the other side. What Canyon is that? My imagination is running wild and thinking of what it would be like to have a ski resort up there on the north facing slope side of the ridge. In addition to the traditional highway at the base of the Canyon on the other side, there would be gondola access running up the west end of the ridge. I know, just a crazy thought. Hmm, that whole area on the other side has me fascinated. Such as the other side of the high point of the mountain slopes to the far right. What kind of north facing ski slopes are behind there? HA!! Now that would be putting an exclamation on downtown proximity to the ski resorts.

The other side of that ridgeline is just City Creek Canyon, from which, if feeling adventurous, you can make it up to Rudy's Flat, and from there head down Mueller Park Canyon or North Canyon into Bountiful. If you're feeling really adventurous you could make it up to Grandview Peak (the tallest peak in the photo, which can also be seen from Bountiful looking up Mueller Park Canyon) and the Great Western Trail. You can also make it to Lookout Peak (the mountain in the foreground). CCC, however, is not the most convenient way to get to any of those places.

airhero · #**194** Posted **Jul 11, 2017, 11:38 PM**

Does anybody know who the new owners of the Void lot are (400 S and West Temple)?

Viperlord · #**195** Posted **Jul 12, 2017, 12:04 AM**

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Originally Posted by airhero

Does anybody know who the new owners of the Void lot are (400 S and West Temple)?

CA Developer Purchases Downtown SLC Parcel for Future Development
Held Properties Exploring Various Options for 1.38-Acre Site on S. West Temple
June 15, 2017

http://www.costar.com/News/Article/C...lopment/191843

asies1981 · #**196** Posted **Jul 12, 2017, 12:51 AM**

Post on the Centro Civico development.

airhero · #**197** Posted **Jul 12, 2017, 4:12 AM**

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Originally Posted by Viperlord

CA Developer Purchases Downtown SLC Parcel for Future Development
Held Properties Exploring Various Options for 1.38-Acre Site on S. West Temple
June 15, 2017

http://www.costar.com/News/Article/C...lopment/191843

Awesome. Thanks!

I'm not sure what to think of them after looking at their website. Looks like it hasn't been updated in years.

bob rulz · #**198** Posted **Jul 12, 2017, 7:48 AM**

At least it gives hope for SOMETHING to go there. It's long past time to get rid of that ugly asphalt square!

bob rulz · #**199** Posted **Jul 12, 2017, 10:50 AM**

Also, about the Hardware District site, I absolutely LOVE the design of the townhomes!! The rendering of the apartment buildings look good, too. I can't wait to see it thriving and fully developed! That development plus the 4th West apartments provide a massive addition.

I think there's a missed opportunity for at least a few retail locations, but I'll take the density any day.

delts145 · #**200** Posted **Jul 12, 2017, 11:08 AM**

Thanks Airhero for the rundown on the City Creek/Grandview Peak area.

This purchase by Held Properties of the formerly proposed VOID site should be interesting. This family has developed, owned, and or more recently unloaded a number of Class A 'medical services related properties'. All of their property dealings in the Los Angeles area have been located among L.A's most pricey locales. One, such as the UCLA Medical Center, which they have sold, is about as exclusive a property as one can own in Los Angeles. It would seem that their currently owned properties are both large, and located among some of the priciest real estate in Century City and Santa Monica.

It was just the other day when one of us, I can't remember who, was lamenting the lack of offices/services related to the medical field in the CBD. I'm anticipating or at least hoping that these new owners are about to develop a Class A "Medical Center" Downtown. That I think would be a fantastic prospect, not to mention a needed missing piece of service for the Downtown Area.

Perhaps, it would be a development that is symbiotic with the U. of U., like so many medical services developments that have been constructed in recent years. I get the impression that Held Properties is flush with capital, and have been waiting out one of the worst real estate cycles in decades long history. It would seem that they are ready to get back into the game, and Salt Lake City's CBD is prime for their niche of development. That niche being Class A Commercial, Medical Services Development. Hopefully, it will be at least a ten story, attractive contemporary structure for that important corner...