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Old Posted Jun 17, 2017, 1:15 AM
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There is a perforated silver, metal, mesh type going overtop of all the black metal cladding.
You will never see the deformation once that is installed, and the final product will be much lighter.
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Old Posted Jun 17, 2017, 7:06 AM
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Yeah, I was wondering about that option. That is the same as the Presentation House Gallery in Lower Lonsdale: a highly mirrored sub cladding beneath a perforated metal cladding.
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Old Posted Jun 17, 2017, 9:50 AM
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Thanks for the info.

Andros' pic looks like a different cladding for the edge of the roof.
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This is from 3 weeks ago. Growing nicely in the background.




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Old Posted Jun 18, 2017, 6:33 PM
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Why is the second tower taking so long to rise?
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Old Posted Jun 18, 2017, 9:16 PM
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Why is the second tower taking so long to rise?
I wonder too !

They even dismantled crane#3 two days ago??!#
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Old Posted Jun 18, 2017, 11:59 PM
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I wonder too !

They even dismantled crane#3 two days ago??!#
I wonder if it's wise to be constructing tower # 2 (with too much of a time lag) while the new shopping area is attracting so many customers/residents etc. given the risk of construction related accidents on the basis of the magnitude of tower 2 construction??
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Old Posted Jun 20, 2017, 6:40 AM
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I wonder if it's wise to be constructing tower # 2 (with too much of a time lag) while the new shopping area is attracting so many customers/residents etc. given the risk of construction related accidents on the basis of the magnitude of tower 2 construction??
You mean like is and has been happening across the road in Solo?

There are safety protocols for carrying out construction on a tower even while a nearby retail podium or even the same podium below is open for business.
It's not entirely an unusual or unique situation.

I'm more surprised by the delay from the business-sense perspective of having customers and retailers available and ready-to-go in the form of residents once the retail podium is complete and the towers shortly afterwards, but I can understand the necessity for phased construction and delaying phases like this for economic and scheduling constraints especially for large complex projects like this.

I'm actually quite impressed by projects like Station Square where they have towers #2 and 3 being done concurrently (almost complete) and it seems like they're priming construction for the last two towers to also happen concurrently if not close together.
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Old Posted Jun 20, 2017, 9:31 AM
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Here's a bit more solid info from an expert, on the cladding that caused London's Grenfell Tower to blaze very quickly...

Why Grenfell Tower became a raging, wind tunnel of a fire..
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Old Posted Jun 20, 2017, 2:31 PM
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You mean like is and has been happening across the road in Solo?

There are safety protocols for carrying out construction on a tower even while a nearby retail podium or even the same podium below is open for business.
It's not entirely an unusual or unique situation.

I'm more surprised by the delay from the business-sense perspective of having customers and retailers available and ready-to-go in the form of residents once the retail podium is complete and the towers shortly afterwards, but I can understand the necessity for phased construction and delaying phases like this for economic and scheduling constraints especially for large complex projects like this.

I'm actually quite impressed by projects like Station Square where they have towers #2 and 3 being done concurrently (almost complete) and it seems like they're priming construction for the last two towers to also happen concurrently if not close together.
My initial thought was that of a cash flow/construction resource constraint...but then I began to wonder about the safety risk factor building so close to thousands of shoppers/commuters/many residents (the last group being possibly affected by ongoing construction dust/noise etc.).
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Old Posted Jun 20, 2017, 4:32 PM
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My initial thought was that of a cash flow/construction resource constraint...but then I began to wonder about the safety risk factor building so close to thousands of shoppers/commuters/many residents (the last group being possibly affected by ongoing construction dust/noise etc.).
Well until the cranes start collapsing like in NYC then it's not a problem.
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Old Posted Jun 20, 2017, 6:46 PM
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Well until the cranes start collapsing like in NYC then it's not a problem.
Construction debris falling on construction workers is one thing,....but god forbid the legal conundrum should such fall on litigious shoppers (say during a wind storm).
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Old Posted Jun 20, 2017, 8:00 PM
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My initial thought was that of a cash flow/construction resource constraint...but then I began to wonder about the safety risk factor building so close to thousands of shoppers/commuters/many residents (the last group being possibly affected by ongoing construction dust/noise etc.).
They construct towers in downtown cores and CBD's all the time where there are far more people and pedestrians around in the close environs, all without issues (as long as safety protocols are observed).

Besides which, it's actually safer in this case since most of the construction happens during the day when pretty much most, if not all the residents are at work or away from the area, and they are done earlier in the day before residents begin commuting back or when shoppers are in the area (like during the weekends).

Dust and noise are unavoidable, especially if you have to be around during the day when it's going on, but if those were over-riding factors, then nothing would ever get built.
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Old Posted Jun 20, 2017, 10:37 PM
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They construct towers in downtown cores and CBD's all the time where there are far more people and pedestrians around in the close environs, all without issues (as long as safety protocols are observed).

Besides which, it's actually safer in this case since most of the construction happens during the day when pretty much most, if not all the residents are at work or away from the area, and they are done earlier in the day before residents begin commuting back or when shoppers are in the area (like during the weekends).

Dust and noise are unavoidable, especially if you have to be around during the day when it's going on, but if those were over-riding factors, then nothing would ever get built.
...and do you (for example) recall any falling glass/debris from the Trump tower during construction? Fortunately the street was empty when that happened. You never know.....that's why prevention is better than cure.....finish all major construction before opening up to the public.
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Old Posted Jun 21, 2017, 1:55 AM
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Old Posted Jun 21, 2017, 4:02 PM
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...and do you (for example) recall any falling glass/debris from the Trump tower during construction? Fortunately the street was empty when that happened. You never know.....that's why prevention is better than cure.....finish all major construction before opening up to the public.
Those falling debris/accidents do cross my mind for some months now, everytime I walk past the development, under the pedestrian scaffolding covered walkway/sidewalk, whatever it's called. Same goes for the dev't across it at SOLO. It's almost like a cross-my-fingers moment each time. Lol.

I once lived on the 26th floor of a building in a CBD, with a huge highrise dev't right across it. And one time there was a really big storm and it was freaky seeing some/thinking about those big stuff hanging around that construction level that might hit my unit/balcony/glass frontage.. gah!! Nothing bad happened but still was a concern and well, citywide was on alert anyway so they also took precautions (which they definitely should! Hehe!).

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Old Posted Jun 21, 2017, 8:12 PM
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...and do you (for example) recall any falling glass/debris from the Trump tower during construction? Fortunately the street was empty when that happened. You never know.....that's why prevention is better than cure.....finish all major construction before opening up to the public.


Nobody said it's a perfect science.
Accidents can and do happen, of course,....as with any endeavour in life.

But how frequently or often do you hear of them happening?

And in a city with a crap-ton of construction going on like the GVA, how many times do you hear reports of pedestrians being struck by falling construction material and equipment?

Statistically speaking there's a higher chance of an accident happening within the construction site itself than in the area around it as a result of the construction itself.
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Old Posted Jun 21, 2017, 9:06 PM
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Nobody said it's a perfect science.
Accidents can and do happen, of course,....as with any endeavour in life.

But how frequently or often do you hear of them happening?

And in a city with a crap-ton of construction going on like the GVA, how many times do you hear reports of pedestrians being struck by falling construction material and equipment?

Statistically speaking there's a higher chance of an accident happening within the construction site itself than in the area around it as a result of the construction itself.
Looking at the pictures of the Brentwood construction site above the space in question for shoppers/commuters and tower construction is relatively small/compact/close,..hence less room for any error. In circumstances like the various downtown high rise constructions there are really no options but to take chances and build with heightened safety precautions in place....but in Brentwood's case they do have options (e.g. by trying to finish most if not all of the major tower construction together or in a less dragged out timeline.....thus greatly reducing such risk of construction related lawsuit. In any event, "time is money"! Hence, the quicker they finish the towers the more cost effective will be the construction outlay.

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