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Old Posted Jun 3, 2017, 2:37 AM
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Apparently passed through UDP

What follows is second hand information from two separate people who attended the UDP meeting.

With that said, from what I have heard, this version passed the UDP without any recommendations.

EditThat's what I get for using a second person's perspective, this proposal did pass, but there were recommendations.

Last edited by Feathered Friend; Jun 16, 2017 at 7:03 AM. Reason: Corrected UDP Info
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Old Posted Jun 3, 2017, 2:43 AM
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So construction will be imminent?
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Tower is growing on me because it's different and unique for Vancouver. Glad it passed the UDP.
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It was a couple of years ago at least, so the situation may be different now, but I recall someone with inside information mentioning at the time that the developer had a major prospective tenant in the works which would make immediate construction viable independent of the office cycle.
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Old Posted Jun 4, 2017, 5:07 AM
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thread image

Excuse me, but if 1133 has been changed from the old original design with the pointed angles to the new design with the taller building with the different massing, should not the
image be changed on the upper left corner? It's a bit confusing. Thank you.
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Takes time to have the official pic changed.

Really like this project, and at 167 meters, and the current massing shown, this will add some real strength to the look of our commercial heart.
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Old Posted Jun 10, 2017, 8:24 PM
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Info boards from the UDP Meeting



























Clearly these are not as good of quality as what will be posted on the City website. However, as staff are swamped (understaffed IMO), and I'm unsure on long it will be until the application page is updated, I thought I would post these for everyone's enjoyment. Also, while I did take photos of the floor layouts, I chose note to post them as I didn't want to overwhelm the page. That said, the layout for the ground floor had space allocated for a restaurant.
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Old Posted Jun 10, 2017, 8:40 PM
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Love the new redesign! Certainly more interesting to view from the street and the pocket park looks cool too.
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Old Posted Jun 10, 2017, 9:14 PM
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Looks pretty good.
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Old Posted Jun 11, 2017, 1:05 AM
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The Stanley Park view is unflattering. A lithe twist of form on that axis would help. The rest are quite impressive, however.
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I'm happy with this redesign. Hope it goes through!
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Old Posted Jun 12, 2017, 10:14 PM
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Thanks!

The renderings aren't too bad.

The top does look a bit ungainly from a distance though.
The boxes stuck onto the lower cube look too much like cell phone transmitters.
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ugh...James is doing the rotated axis...
the building looks OK until you see it upon the skyline rendering ...then it is both derivative and oppressive
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ugh...James is doing the rotated axis...
the building looks OK until you see it upon the skyline rendering ...then it is both derivative and oppressive
It's just plain old ugly. So many different elements. Reminds me of Telus Garden.
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Old Posted Jun 13, 2017, 2:56 PM
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dual-posted in another thread, sorry

This is a link to a complex of buildings in Seattle some of which may or may not remind you of 1130 Melville. It's a sight with movable images and so on, so I can only post the link but no images.

http://nexusseattle.com/architecture/
Please click Enter. You have the possibility of remarking on certain parallels
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Old Posted Jun 13, 2017, 8:45 PM
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Soooo ugly, especially from Stanley Park.

It's like you are angry with something and gives it a really hard kick. The result is this building.
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Old Posted Jun 13, 2017, 11:32 PM
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The Stanley Park vantage point is obviously stretched / distorted in the image posted, so it may not be the best representation of that angle.

Also, this thread for the last couple pages amazes me. It literally has all the usual suspects who dislike nearly every project in Vancouver disliking it.

I hope this gets built. Adds some really needed weight to the commercial core.
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Old Posted Jun 14, 2017, 3:48 AM
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The redesign definitely has James Cheng's trademark signature of throwing every single idea he has into a design and see how it goes. Same incoherent and clueless mix of unfinished ideas as the Downtown Nordstrom.

I much more liked the earlier sleeker design. This one is not progressive or bold. Just a mess of ideas. Too bad it will be so visible in the skyline.
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Old Posted Jun 17, 2017, 3:30 AM
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UDP - Approved with recommendations

http://vancouver.ca/your-government/urban-design-panel.aspx

Quote:
THAT the Panel the project SUPPORT the project with the following recommendations to
be reviewed by City staff:
  • To refine the boxes to be more discreet, whether through fins or colour, or verticality or
    horizontally, but a more discreet definition of the different boxes
  • To work with more landscaping on the rooftops
  • to develop the entrance with more strength, looking at both the entrance doors and
    detailing the V column.
  • look at the pocket park and reconsider the cantilevered building element and the bamboo
    use
Related Commentary: The panel noted that the proposal was a vast improvement from the last
submission. The building invites the participant to view it as part of the urban environment. The
parti is strong. The fins and depth should be more variegated to make the boxes discreet elements.
The entry door is small and might need more elaboration to announce the entrance
Increase the amount of covered areas. The bike facilities were appreciated by the panel. The
cantilevered meeting room is not necessary and crowding the park, according to one panel
member.
Bring in more landscaping, for example, more landscaping on the roof invites more viewing.
Overall, it is a strong scheme.
Again, I feel the UDP made some good calls here. I've heard a couple people with more experience than I call for better treatment of the entrance, so it's reassuring to hear that will be addressed. Perhaps it's because I'm a relative layman in the field, but I don't understand why they want the fins to help make the boxes more discrete? If the panel feels the boxes should be more discrete, I assume that means they dislike the concept. So then why not just suggest a new design rather than a cover up?
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