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Old Posted Jun 4, 2017, 3:57 AM
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This is oh-so-awesome but it also makes me worried. The only successful part of Lansdowne off the playing field is the restaurant offering. Business in the Market has been down substantially since Lansdowne opened...it seems the locals are leaving the Market for the tourists and students and they are either visiting Lansdowne or all the new neighbourhood offerings. I don't know if Ottawa can support another district of bars/restaurants/cafes any time soon.
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I don't know if Ottawa can support another district of bars/restaurants/cafes any time soon.
I get the feeling this will be more residential and less bars/restaurants/cafes. The only specific commercial business they mention is a grocery store. Also a "indoor market" and an "outdoor market", but those are just planning gobilty-gook buzz words and aren't really indicative of the product. I think you can expect more of a retail/residential mix akin to St. Charles Church and less Landsdowne.
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Great pic TMA-1, thanks!
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I get the feeling this will be more residential and less bars/restaurants/cafes. The only specific commercial business they mention is a grocery store. Also a "indoor market" and an "outdoor market", but those are just planning gobilty-gook buzz words and aren't really indicative of the product. I think you can expect more of a retail/residential mix akin to St. Charles Church and less Landsdowne.
I asked one of the reps whether they'll be other kinds of retail on site since they only mentioned a grocery store. She said they yes but they only noted the grocery store because every meeting that's what people keep mentioning.
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Unrelated observation .... why is the Queensway also referred to as the King's Highway on the map above??

I can think of some reasons... but probably not proper to be posted here
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Unrelated observation .... why is the Queensway also referred to as the King's Highway on the map above??

I can think of some reasons... but probably not proper to be posted here
Most provincial highways in Ontario (the ones with the crown on the sign) are King's Highways.
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This is oh-so-awesome but it also makes me worried. The only successful part of Lansdowne off the playing field is the restaurant offering. Business in the Market has been down substantially since Lansdowne opened...it seems the locals are leaving the Market for the tourists and students and they are either visiting Lansdowne or all the new neighbourhood offerings. I don't know if Ottawa can support another district of bars/restaurants/cafes any time soon.
I'm more worried about the effects of Zibi and LeBreton. Even if the Booth Complex does end up like a mini distillery district, it will still be significantly smaller (retail/restaurant/entertainment wise) than Lansdowne.
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From Eric Dawrwin's latest article:

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CLC tells us they aren’t going to just plan, rezone, and sell off the block, but intend to oversee and build out the site by itself in its entirety. This means the plan, when approved by all levels of government, shouldn’t be subject to repeated trips to the rezoning-trough by developers seeking ever-more development privileges.
I actually don't mind this. I feel like CLC will do the site justice when it comes to preserving the heritage elements and securing tenants that'll make it a unique space.

http://www.westsideaction.com/west-side-transportation-cornucopia-part-iii-nrcan/
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from: The Ottawa Citizen, Friday, February 2, 2018
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Finally. I was waiting for the next session. This was supposed be last fall. I hope the preferred design includes keeping the smoke stack.
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Residents compile wish list for Booth Street site
Canada Lands Company developing plan for 2.5 hectares just north of Dow's Lake

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Posted: Jan 25, 2017 6:38 AM ET Last Updated: Jan 25, 2017 10:29 AM ET




More than 100 people turned out Tuesday night for the first in a series of public consultations about the future of the former Booth Street campus of Natural Resources Canada.

After giving a brief presentation, officials from Canada Lands Company — the Crown corporation developing a plan for the 2.5 hectares just north of Dow's Lake — invited residents to share ideas about what they'd like to see in the future community.

Early feedback via sticky notes tacked onto a large photo of property call for a grocery store, small businesses, affordable housing, green space, art and culture hub, and family-size homes with three bedrooms.

In October 2015, Canada Lands acquired the large city block bordered by Booth, Norman, Rochester and Orangeville streets, and includes five brick structures recognized as federal heritage buildings.

While the city and the Crown corporation try to re-use heritage buildings, there's no guarantee all five will be incorporated into a new plan that will likely be a combination of homes and businesses.

"We're just at the beginning of the process," said Rodger Martin, Canada Lands' vice-president of real estate in Ontario. "Before we even know what the uses might be, we can't say what uses the buildings might have."

The next major public meetings will be in the early summer, when a concept plan will be presented for feedback from residents, and another in the fall to show us the draft "preferred plan."

But officials said Canada Lands will have additional public sessions — or more smaller sessions — if there's enough demand for them.

The process will eventually end in a formal rezoning application to the city by the end of the year.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/booth-campus-nrcan-meeting-future-plannig-1.3951126
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Former Natural Resources HQ on Booth Street would get towers, park
Smokestack and heritage facades would stay in plan for 2.5 hectare site near Dow's Lake

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Posted: Feb 16, 2018 7:37 AM ET Last Updated: Feb 16, 2018 7:37 AM ET




The company redeveloping the former campus of Natural Resources Canada on Booth Street is planning half a dozen highrise towers, but says it will maintain the heritage feel of the area and iconic smokestack.

Canada Lands Company, the Crown corporation developing a plan for the 2.5 hectares just north of Dow's Lake, gave residents a look at their preferred design concept for the area Thursday night.

The revamped design incorporates feedback received from last month's public information session.

The company purchased the land for $12.4 million in October 2015.

The site is bordered by Booth, Norman, Rochester and Orangeville streets.

It includes five brick structures recognized as federal heritage buildings and has been sitting empty for years.



The design concept shows roughly half a dozen mixed-use highrise towers with retail space below.

It maintains the smokestack and heritage facades and adds pedestrian walkways throughout the complex.

A park would sit on its southwest edge.

"There's always a gap between the sizzle and the steak, between the nice pictures the architects draw and what actually gets built on the ground," said Eric Darwin with the Dalhousie Community Association.

"When architects get going on these things they draw lots and lots of trees and lots of green space, but once it actually gets built it might be cluttered with cars."



Early feedback from residents called for a grocery store, small businesses, affordable housing, an art and culture hub and family-size homes with three bedrooms.

There was also a call to maintain the area's heritage look and add much more green space.

"Heritage conservation, connectivity and open space. This is one neighbourhood within the City of Ottawa that has high population and low representation in terms of active planned and modern park space. This is what we'll bring to the site," said Mary Jarvis of the Canada Lands Company.

Many longtime residents of Little Italy maintained a tempered sense of optimism.

They said they worried about the parking and traffic congestion the development might bring.

"I like where it is and what they're doing but the fact that it's stuck there, how is it going to fit in with everything else?" said resident Fraser Knox.

"That's my biggest concern. I don't want it to become like Lansdowne [Park] in terms of the big corporate restaurants, the big corporate stores. I don't think that's where it needs to be."

"The big-box stores … may be the only ones who can afford the kind of rent that they'll be charging in those brand new buildings," said Peggy Knox.



The councillor for the area said she would be keeping concerns about maintaining affordability in the neighbourhood at the forefront when the design concept goes to the city.

"There's always that risk that a development doesn't properly integrate," said Coun. Catherine McKenny.

"I look at this and the process has been great. I think this is one of our best chances of really getting it right." .

A formal rezoning application is expected to go to the city by late March.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/booth-street-ottawa-design-plans-1.4538267
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Here's the story in the Citizen (sorry, I don't know how to post it all flashy like Rocketphish):

http://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-news...th-complex-keeps-smoke-stack-adds-towers
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I'm actually quite pleased with the proposed *tentative* site plan, and though I don't feel there's a need for a park on the southwest corner, given the site's proximity to all the parkland around Dow's Lake, I understand why it's there -- to help frame the smokestack.

If the greenspace remains, it would be a good location for a playground, as I don't think there are any in the immediate vicinity?
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I'm actually quite pleased with the proposed *tentative* site plan, and though I don't feel there's a need for a park on the southwest corner, given the site's proximity to all the parkland around Dow's Lake, I understand why it's there -- to help frame the smokestack.

If the greenspace remains, it would be a good location for a playground, as I don't think there are any in the immediate vicinity?
There's a tiny one over on Bell, but the neighbourhood definitely needs a better playground/kids park.
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Agreed, telling people to cross 6-8 lanes of Carling Ave to get to the nearest park (an un-animated park at that) isn't the best way to attract families/etc. to live there.
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I like the small park, the smokeshack and I do hope the entire parcel keeps a lot of brick and that sort of older distillery district vibe going.

I did LOL at the resident's wish list of "family sized homes with 3 bedrooms". Sure, let's scrap this prime central lot and fill it with 3 story homes on lots "AVALON CENTRE by MINTO"
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I like the small park, the smokeshack and I do hope the entire parcel keeps a lot of brick and that sort of older distillery district vibe going.

I did LOL at the resident's wish list of "family sized homes with 3 bedrooms". Sure, let's scrap this prime central lot and fill it with 3 story homes on lots "AVALON CENTRE by MINTO"
Or they could just mean that they hope the apartments in the condos / rentals have a healthy amount of 3 bedroom units, so that the development is friendly for urban families with multiple children.
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I did LOL at the resident's wish list of "family sized homes with 3 bedrooms". Sure, let's scrap this prime central lot and fill it with 3 story homes on lots "AVALON CENTRE by MINTO"
My interpretation was affordable, 3 bedroom, family apartments rather than spacious, luxury, studio apartments.
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House of Blues

Call me crazy but I can't help thinking the 3 story building at the NE. Quad which is slated to be saved in the concept plan should be converted into a House of Blues after Ottawa's own son Dan Aykroyd.

That is my idea of "experiential retail" and I like Blues.
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