Agreed. I like this project better than most this cycle, but it seems like an odd stylistic choice for Atlantic Station. I'd love to see something like this on the Westside, certain portions of the Eastside Beltline Trail, or even Downtown, though I'm glad to see some of the holes in Atlantic Station hopefully getting filled in with this, T3, and the AMLI project. On that note, has anyone heard any updates on those projects?
The announcement was for T3 as well-- It will be built at the same time as the buildings in the rendering (at least that's the plan anyway)--
Right now it took me 47 minutes to get to the airport. According to Google Maps, if I had taken mass transit (MARTA), the time required would have required exactly one hour more. This means that, for me, personal vehicle transport in Atlanta with all the headaches is far more efficient than the alternative. The cost to equalize the playing field for mass transit is prohibitive. You say we in Atlanta should live more densely? Maybe so, but it's not reality now or in the foreseeable future. For the purists maybe the alternative is in NYC because that's the only place in America where I see an efficiency advantage for mass transit.
Where do you live? It sounds like you're nowhere near a train line since Airport to North Springs is only like 40-ish minutes. You're not really making a fair comparison if you're having to throw in an hour long CCT or GCT bus ride. Even if you're driving to the train station yourself, it sounds like you're spending longer than it takes the train to reach the airport from the furthest station out, just to get to the station. Sounds like an argument for expansion to other parts of the metro if you ask me...
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Where do you live? It sounds like you're nowhere near a train line since Airport to North Springs is only like 40-ish minutes. You're not really making a fair comparison if you're having to throw in an hour long CCT or GCT bus ride. Even if you're driving to the train station yourself, it sounds like you're spending longer than it takes the train to reach the airport from the furthest station out, just to get to the station. Sounds like an argument for expansion to other parts of the metro if you ask me...
Just to see what would happen, I googled my old job in Alpharetta. It was a 50 minute car ride and an hour and 47 minute ride via Marta.
Just to see what would happen, I googled my old job in Alpharetta. It was a 50 minute car ride and an hour and 47 minute ride via Marta.
I bet those times would be a lot more similar if Alpharetta had rail The headways and travel time on the buses up there are going to add at least an hour to the trip.
All this talk about transit taking too long is slowly becoming a thing of the past. And the reason why is because of the rapid advancements being made in personal flight. Toyota is backing a flying car that will debut during the 2020 Olympic Games in Tokyo. It will be used as a taxi and to light the torch during the opening ceremony. That’s three years away! Then there’s the German built Lilium electric jet VTOL that looks very promising. Within 5 years we’ll see them flying above American cities. Within ten years you’ll know someone who has a flying car. And within 20 years you’ll own one. I think it’d be smart for developers to start considering this and designing buildings that can accommodate this new technology. It’s not that far away to start thinking and planning for it.
Equally promising is tunneling technology. I'm imagining someday they'll be an eastside tunnel with access points at 85/400, Ponce, Dekalb Ave, I-20, and 675; and a westside tunnel that will have access at 85, 75, N'side/Hollowell Pkwy, 1-20, Langford Pkwy and 85/Airport. That can happen if tunneling tech becomes cheaper and faster. Another one could run from N'side/Hollowell to the East-West Connector in Cobb. None of these distances are really so great. I spend considerable time in Prague, and their system of tunnels around the center is quite impressive.
We're not getting flying cars within 10 years, or probably ever at large scale. Can you imagine the headaches for the FAA trying to regulate that? We still don't have drones in full deployment like everyone thought we would. Nothing is going to be a panacea for congestion like old fashioned transit.
All this talk about transit taking too long is slowly becoming a thing of the past. And the reason why is because of the rapid advancements being made in personal flight. Toyota is backing a flying car that will debut during the 2020 Olympic Games in Tokyo. It will be used as a taxi and to light the torch during the opening ceremony. That’s three years away! Then there’s the German built Lilium electric jet VTOL that looks very promising. Within 5 years we’ll see them flying above American cities. Within ten years you’ll know someone who has a flying car. And within 20 years you’ll own one. I think it’d be smart for developers to start considering this and designing buildings that can accommodate this new technology. It’s not that far away to start thinking and planning for it.
People can barely drive. You think that flying cars will help?
People can barely drive. You think that flying cars will help?
Never say never, but flying cars on a wide scale are probably a never--
Tunnels perhaps, buts its still unfathomably expensive, Elon Musk notwithstanding.
Perennial's Whit Johnson says there are no immediate plans to start the as-yet-unnamed project, which will involve 250 units and retail/restaurant on the ground floor. “We have long-term development plans in place, but we're not in a hurry to do anything with that site,” Whit says. With Hanger's lease expiring by early next year, and it's intent to move to Parkside's renovated project by July, Perennial could start as early as next year. But Whit says ground breaking is “undetermined” at this point.
I've got some general questions for those in the multi-family rental world that us little people only hear answers about every once-in-a-while. Anyone have insights on these:
How have leasing rates been for projects completed in the past 12-18 months?
Is lease-up taking (a lot) longer now that the recession-induced backlog has been worked through?
Are these projects below/at/above the expected $/sf rental-rate that the projects were financed under?
Are there any sub-markets that have exceeded or failed to meet expectations to a significant degree?
Are these multi-family rental developers the same folks who will be the big players when multi-family owner-occupied projects finally start?
So Juniper is going to be closed between Ponce and North from June 26 through October for the completion of the Proton Treatment Center? Was this talked about on here before? Seems a bit much.
So Juniper is going to be closed between Ponce and North from June 26 through October for the completion of the Proton Treatment Center? Was this talked about on here before? Seems a bit much.
I don't think so megapolis....but there has been lots of (well deserved) critiquing of the development type and form at that prominent intersection. It's BS they are closing all 4 lanes for four months. Our city and Midtown Alliance must have been asleep at the wheel on this or just bent over for Emory. We all suffer for crappy development in more ways than one. My two cents...
Now I remember that project! Always thought the design was memorable and would have been an excellent addition to what is going up in O4W. Here's hoping the design has remained similar over the years.
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The headways and travel time on the buses up there are going to add at least an hour to the trip.
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