DENVER | Main Development Thread #7 - Page 32

CastleScott · #**621** Posted **May 28, 2017, 4:22 PM**

^ Whole heartely agree too!! Oh please, please Lord God (Adonai/Yahway) help this tower come to fruition-in Yeshua's (Jesus) name Amen!

Btw great photoshop Matt!

DenBronco8 · #**622** Posted **May 28, 2017, 7:05 PM**

This is just what our skyline needs. I really hope this does get built. If it's not too much trouble, it would be cool to see that tower from different angles of our skyline.

TakeFive · #**623** Posted **May 28, 2017, 10:20 PM**

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Originally Posted by DenBronco8

This is just what our skyline needs. I really hope this does get built. If it's not too much trouble, it would be cool to see that tower from different angles of our skyline.

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SandSailor · #**624** Posted **May 28, 2017, 10:51 PM**

I agree! Please please build that beauty!!!

On a side note, Denver looks SO MUCH more impressive driving North to South or South to North on I-25 than it does going East to West! Noticed this while out on a drive today! Always thought that though!

Alchemist · #**625** Posted **May 29, 2017, 4:38 AM**

It looks like Shears, Adkins, and Rockmore are working with Brue Capital for site planning of their portion of Denargo Market.
http://sararch.com/projects/in-progress/denargo-market/

It would be nice to see some height there. Also, it looks like they may be considering consolidating the parking in structures separate from the buildings. As long as the ground floors are activated, that could be good. Based on the site plan image, doing that also allows for those large blocks to be further subdivided with pedestrian-only corridors.

BG918 · #**626** Posted **May 29, 2017, 6:05 PM**

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Originally Posted by SandSailor

I agree! Please please build that beauty!!!

On a side note, Denver looks SO MUCH more impressive driving North to South or South to North on I-25 than it does going East to West! Noticed this while out on a drive today! Always thought that though!

IMO the best skyline angles are from Hwy 6 near Federal and I-70 near Vasquez/Steele. From LoHi by Little Man Ice Cream is also impressive.

SandSailor · #**627** Posted **May 29, 2017, 10:29 PM**

I agree for just a view of the Skyline. I guess I meant the whole feel of the city! It feels modern and big coming in from Castle Rock and driving up to downtown!

Denver Dweller · #**628** Posted **May 30, 2017, 4:26 PM**

https://www.denverite.com/41st-fox-redevelopment-36365/

Denver Dweller · #**629** Posted **May 30, 2017, 5:07 PM**

http://www.businessden.com/2017/05/30/50...b1506f0c-67b04948d2-147998669#newsletter

CastleScott · #**630** Posted **May 30, 2017, 5:49 PM**

^ That's sounds like an interesting project and I wonder if they incorporate the old Denver Post plant into the scheme-reading into this it also looks like there could be several 12 story buildings built. Back when I lived in Arvada the city council apponited me to the Arvada light rail committee (the Gold Line) back in 2000.

Anyone wanna take a stab at what the 2020 population count will be for Denver and the metro area? My guess is the city/county of Denver will be 719,758 and the metro 2,996,830 (if you add in Greeley/Evans and burbs then around 3,176,976-just slightly less than the Minneapolis/St Paul metro).

PhilipDDG · #**631** Posted **May 30, 2017, 6:03 PM**

Hey CastleScott, I read a comment of yours from a few weeks back about how you were looking forward to seeing the view as you drive into Denver at some point. I take it you'd be coming from SMF, perhaps on I-80/I-25? I've done that drive frequently from Santa Rosa. Since I live in Cap. Hill my drive takes me down Speer to 14th, and then 14th to Race/Cheesman Park. After two days of endless sagebrush with nary a human in sight, I'm always blown away by the sudden, dense, island of humanity as I drive through central Denver. I'm always SO glad Denver is Home.

CastleScott · #**632** Posted **May 30, 2017, 6:50 PM**

^ Thanks PhilipDDG-yes my wife and I will be driving from SMF (in fact we live just north of the I-5/I-80 interchange in Natomas right off I-5 and Arena Blvd), we're likely to spend a night at Wendover NV then on to just north of Salt Lake City to visit wife's side of family-after that we're likely to take I-15 south to Spanish Fork UT to hit US 6 which we'll then take to I-70 at Green River UT-then head east to stay a night or two in Vail (my family has a time-share there in late Sept when we're hoping to go). After that we're off to metro Denver to stay a about a week-hey I was thinking we sould meet-up if your willing (I've messeaged Ryan about a meet-up and I might even bring my drone my wife got me on Valentine's Day-we can't fly drones in Sacramento parks anymore as they passed city ordnance against that). Oh btw I've even driven I-80 all the way to Illinois/Iowa numerious times as my mom's side hails from western central Illinois/SE Iowa.

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After two days of endless sagebrush with nary a human in sight, I'm always blown away by the sudden, dense, island of humanity as I drive through central Denver. I'm always SO glad Denver is Home.

Amen to that-I remember the wind is always so strong in Wyoming..lol!

Alchemist · #**633** Posted **May 30, 2017, 6:51 PM**

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Originally Posted by CastleScott

^ That's sounds like an interesting project and I wonder if they incorporate the old Denver Post plant into the scheme-reading into this it also looks like there could be several 12 story buildings built. Back when I lived in Arvada the city council apponited me to the Arvada light rail committee (the Gold Line) back in 2000.

Tryba Architects is working on site planning with the owners of the old Denver Post plant and surrounding area. Looks pretty go to me.
https://www.trybaarchitects.com/portfolio/fox-north

A site plan is under review with the city and the (possible?) number of units is 2,950.
In addition, some of parcels near the station have already been rezoned to C-MX-12/20 just like in the station area plan. That area could eventually become quite dense.

TakeFive · #**634** Posted **May 30, 2017, 7:03 PM**

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Originally Posted by CastleScott

Anyone wanna take a stab at what the 2020 population count will be for Denver and the metro area? My guess is the city/county of Denver will be 719,758 and the metro 2,996,830 (if you add in Greeley/Evans and burbs then around 3,176,976-just slightly less than the Minneapolis/St Paul metro).

2020 not far away and those numbers seem apt.

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Originally Posted by TakeFive

Population growth slows in Denver
May 25, 2017 by Mark Harden - Denver Business Journal

Two followup points from this:

Despite the headline, given recent economic indicators it's likely that population growth in Denver has re-accelerated.
I've speculated that the post-Great Recession migration numbers would tail off noticeably but that doesn't seem to be happening.

And a different quote from that article:

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Since the last official census in 2010, most of the population growth in the U.S. has been in the South and West.

“Overall, cities in the South continue to grow at a faster rate than any other U.S region,” said Amel Toukabri, a demographer in the Census Bureau’s population division. “Since the 2010 Census, the population in large southern cities grew by an average of 9.4 percent. In comparison, cities in the West grew 7.3 percent, while cities in the Northeast and Midwest had much lower growth rates at 1.8 percent and 3.0 percent respectively.”

While population growth in many cities has moved to or is much more suburban oriented than urban that is not evident in Denver so far.

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Originally Posted by Alchemist

Tryba Architects is working on site planning with the owners of the old Denver Post plant and surrounding area. Looks pretty go to me.
https://www.trybaarchitects.com/portfolio/fox-north

A site plan is under review with the city and the (possible?) number of units is 2,950.
In addition, some of parcels near the station have already been rezoned to C-MX-12/20 just like in the station area plan. That area could eventually become quite dense.

Great link; thanks.

CastleScott · #**635** Posted **May 30, 2017, 7:22 PM**

^ Wow!! I checked out that link too and it looks like a couple of 20 story towers for that site as well...

mhays · #**636** Posted **May 30, 2017, 7:27 PM**

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Originally Posted by Alchemist

Tryba Architects is working on site planning with the owners of the old Denver Post plant and surrounding area. Looks pretty go to me.
https://www.trybaarchitects.com/portfolio/fox-north

A site plan is under review with the city and the (possible?) number of units is 2,950.
In addition, some of parcels near the station have already been rezoned to C-MX-12/20 just like in the station area plan. That area could eventually become quite dense.

This looks like a good project, and very good density for that type of site.

I tend to be skeptical of swoopy lined in a site plan, which can look better in a drawing than in reality, but in this case it seems to work.

The amount of open space seems to be a little much, but might be required by the land use code? I suspect that short of a festival the actual usage would be far less than the renderings, as is the case with every rendering that's ever existed.

Sam Hill · #**637** Posted **May 30, 2017, 7:51 PM**

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Originally Posted by CastleScott

(if you add in Greeley/Evans and burbs then around 3,176,976-just slightly less than the Minneapolis/St Paul metro).

Those first 2 numbers look about right. But this last one looks a little strange. typo?

(Not that it matters. I'm just bored.)

Sam Hill · #**638** Posted **May 30, 2017, 7:59 PM**

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Originally Posted by Alchemist

Tryba Architects is working on site planning with the owners of the old Denver Post plant and surrounding area. Looks pretty go to me.
https://www.trybaarchitects.com/portfolio/fox-north

A site plan is under review with the city and the (possible?) number of units is 2,950.
In addition, some of parcels near the station have already been rezoned to C-MX-12/20 just like in the station area plan. That area could eventually become quite dense.

Wow. I had no idea this was going on. That looks awesome.

Sam Hill · #**639** Posted **May 30, 2017, 8:11 PM**

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Originally Posted by TakeFive

Two followup points from this:[*]Despite the headline, given recent economic indicators it's likely that population growth in Denver has re-accelerated. [*]I've speculated that the post-Great Recession migration numbers would tail off noticeably but that doesn't seem to be happening.

I've noticed vacancy rates are going back down and rents are shooting up again, so I would have to agree with you. Also, with the ridiculously low unemployment rate (something absurd like 2.3% last time I checked) in-migration of young professionals seeking a walkable neighborhood should remain brisk in the near term me thinks.

CherryCreek · #**640** Posted **May 30, 2017, 8:36 PM**

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Originally Posted by Sam Hill

I've noticed vacancy rates are going back down and rents are shooting up again, so I would have to agree with you. Also, with the ridiculously low unemployment rate (something absurd like 2.3% last time I checked) in-migration of young professionals seeking a walkable neighborhood should remain brisk in the near term me thinks.

The unemployment rate says the most to me. With the massive influx of people, there's no way I thought the unemployment rate could continue to drop - but it has, materially so. This means recent newcomers are being fully absorbed job wise and the demand is there to hire more. This could easily lead to new waves of migration, absent a general economic slowdown for the country.