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  #121  
Old Posted May 24, 2017, 1:38 AM
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Bit more constructive



https://changingcitybook.com/2017/05/23/1133-melville-street/

I like it much better. Has a formalist look to the podium which is nice too.
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Old Posted May 24, 2017, 1:41 AM
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100,000 sqft less than the original proposal, that's unfortunate. And 550,000 sqft will make it the largest office building here? Ugh that's kinda sad lol

And if anyone knows, why did the UDP not support the earlier proposal?
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Old Posted May 24, 2017, 2:01 AM
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Clear glass. Can't tell if there are the (now) usual vertical fins. Funny looking thing.

Wow, this looks incredibly mediocre.
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Old Posted May 24, 2017, 2:46 AM
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Kind of reminds me of the 2 World Trade Centre redesign into stacked boxes. People are going to either love it or hate it.
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Old Posted May 24, 2017, 4:13 AM
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Great massing!

But I think the glazing is too subtle.
The boxes need to have defined stripes to highlight the offsets.
(otherwise it'll be like Carmana Plaza, which is colour blocked in green, blue, white and gray, but the colours are too subtle to be noticeable).

I think I see a double height sky lobby in the middle of the tower, and roof deck "bands" with different glazing.
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Old Posted May 24, 2017, 4:45 AM
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All I needed to read was James. God Damn. Cheng. He sure knows how to make a mediocre design fly in this city.

It could potentially look decent if executed with quality, but I highly doubt. That's not James' trademark.
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Old Posted May 24, 2017, 5:54 AM
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First Impressions

Is it appropriate to change the information in the thread title now, or should we wait and see if it passes UDP first?

I feel that the materials will really make or break this proposal. I'm on the fence with the top of the tower, after the twist. Part of me worries it's going to feel top heavy / like it was an after thought (by no means am I saying the tower should be shorter).
Thanks for posting the picture Changing City!
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Old Posted May 24, 2017, 6:15 AM
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Another rendition of the art gallery. Really ugly. Of all the designs one can imagine, this one has to end up.on the drawing board........speechless.
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Old Posted May 24, 2017, 7:07 AM
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Question "The tower that survived the quake" .... or what?

Not nice. Not pretty. Not smart.
IMO, it looks like kids' toy blocks all piled hodge-podge un top of each other. And to add to that, they look as if they're going to slide horizontally, and crash.
The "asymmetrical" aspect, I suppose, is supposed to make it look avant-garde, but for me, all it is is a jumble of boxes in a dreary grey color.
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Old Posted May 24, 2017, 10:29 AM
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More model pics from VancouverMarket.ca.

If the 3rd cube was in a contrasting colour (red or white) or feature louvres (diagonals or Xs), that would make the design "pop".

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The new design by James Cheng, features a much more interesting building massing. The revision includes stacked box design with the third box twisted from the street grid. There is a slight increase in height from 33 to 34-storeys. Details include:
◾a building height of 550 ft.
◾a total floor area of 555,047 SF
◾a total density of 18.20 FSR (down from 22.46 FSR)
◾four floorplate sizes, multiple decks including a rooftop deck
◾floor to ceiling windows
◾six levels of underground parking (231 vehicle spaces and 221 bicycle spaces)
http://www.vancouvermarket.ca/2017/05/23/new-look-for-1133-melville-street-proposal/



http://www.vancouvermarket.ca/2017/05/23/new-look-for-1133-melville-street-proposal/


http://www.vancouvermarket.ca/2017/05/23/new-look-for-1133-melville-street-proposal/


http://www.vancouvermarket.ca/2017/05/23/new-look-for-1133-melville-street-proposal/

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Old Posted May 24, 2017, 10:49 AM
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Compare:

Buildings That Look Like Stacked Boxes
http://www.amusingplanet.com/2016/01/buildings-that-look-like-stacked-boxes.html

Irregularly stacked boxes https://www.dezeen.com/tag/irregularly-stacked-boxes/

If you look at the Rotterdam office block by OMA, the glazing is similar on the various masses, which blend together.


De Rotterdam complex on the south bank of the Maas river, designed by OMA.
Photo credit: Ryan Koopmans/Rem Koolhaas/OMA

http://www.amusingplanet.com/2016/01/buildings-that-look-like-stacked-boxes.html

Compare to Torre Américas 1500 in Guadalajara on which louvres change orientation on each cube.

https://www.dezeen.com/2017/05/02/angled...-guadalajara-sordo-madelano-arquitectos/


http://www.ctbuh.org/News/GlobalTallNews...ricas-1500-Completes-in-Guadalajara.aspx

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Call me crazy, but I like it!

While there are many towers proposed / existing around the world that used the stacked box design, there is no building similar to this in Vancouver, and I like having it add to the variety of our office tower forms.

I do hope it is at least a little reflective though. And I agree with offciedweller's suggestions.

Also hope that there is some for of lighting for the crown...
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Okay, let me begin the thread for this one since nobody else seems to be doing it.




























All photos by Oxford Properties via Vancitybuzz.
Like the previous design if it were more slender, taller, and having less facets, especially when viewed from the water.
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Given that the more bulky lower 2 segments will be completely obscured in regards to the skyline, I think it will look much more appropriate than the original proposal. The top 2 segments seem appropriately sized to me, and it is almost 7 meters taller
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Old Posted May 24, 2017, 5:31 PM
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I don't mind the new height, but think the design has been watered down a whole lot .
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Old Posted May 25, 2017, 4:29 AM
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Count me as a big fan of the new design. It has serious presence - the 5 distinct chunks make it look taller than it is. And as someone else noted, there's a great new formalist vibe to the podium.

I hope the UDP doesn't force uniformity with the glazing, the variety works nicely with each segment getting lighter.
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Put me in the camp that likes this one better then the original proposal. Looks smart and will age well.
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Old Posted May 25, 2017, 6:22 AM
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I don't mind the new height, but think the design has been watered down a whole lot .
The previous iteration was kinda boring IMO, especially viewing from street level it would just look like a big box, the interesting bit at the top you would never see. The new one makes a far better attempt to animate the street presence however the quality of the materials will be key... please no spandrel, please no spandrel, please no spandrel...
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Old Posted May 27, 2017, 6:59 AM
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Not nice. Not pretty. Not smart.
IMO, it looks like kids' toy blocks all piled hodge-podge un top of each other.
Looks amateurish.
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Old Posted May 27, 2017, 12:16 PM
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Looks amateurish.
That's the exact word! Thanks!
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