Winnipeg | 300 Main St.- Phase II 360 Main St. | 465 Ft | 42F | Completed - Page 67

Biff · #**1321** Posted **May 11, 2017, 2:59 PM**

The middle 4 storey building will be 330 Main St.

esquire · #**1322** Posted **May 11, 2017, 3:08 PM**

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Originally Posted by robertocarlos

How can you share a residential building with a restaurant.

Not exactly a first... there are several residential buildings with restaurants just in the downtown area.

robertocarlos · #**1323** Posted **May 11, 2017, 3:18 PM**

Do they share elevators, lobbies, or loading facilities?

esquire · #**1324** Posted **May 11, 2017, 3:20 PM**

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Originally Posted by robertocarlos

Do they share elevators, lobbies, or loading facilities?

I have confidence in Artis to figure it out and make it work.

drew · #**1325** Posted **May 11, 2017, 3:22 PM**

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Originally Posted by Biff

The middle 4 storey building will be 330 Main St.

The 4-storey building fronts Main, but does not extend all the way back to Fort. I would consider it a "partial" 4-storey building.

The centre portion between the two towers is one full floor (including the grocery store that fills the back half of the area along Fort) - and then the front half of the area along Main continues up for another three floors.

esquire · #**1326** Posted **May 11, 2017, 3:26 PM**

^ So is the intention to leave the unbuilt part along Fort for future development, or does this project eliminate that possibility?

It would be nice to see the door remain open to doing something on the Fort side, although I recognize that it's kind of awkward with the parkade ramps there.

robertocarlos · #**1327** Posted **May 11, 2017, 3:27 PM**

It's not easy to figure out the structure fronting Main because of that driveway hump on Main. Are they going to level the hump?

BuildUpWpg · #**1328** Posted **May 11, 2017, 3:45 PM**

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Originally Posted by robertocarlos

How can you share a residential building with a restaurant.

Why not? Many condos I've seen in Vancouver have retail and restaurants in the ground floor. No different than a hotel really.

Biff · #**1329** Posted **May 11, 2017, 4:02 PM**

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Originally Posted by robertocarlos

Do they share elevators, lobbies, or loading facilities?

Just think of it as a mall with a residential tower on top. The restaurant takes up the front SE 1/4 of the base or podium structure. The towers elevator core is behind the restaurant in the middle of the building as are the rest of the services. Remember, this is not a small building so the podium is fairly large.

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Thanks Drew for chiming in.

drew · #**1330** Posted **May 11, 2017, 4:07 PM**

I was trying to figure out how it all works with the new and existing.

It's really confusing. The drive isles along Main street are still there, and the main floor of the tower and 330 Main are about 4-feet higher than current sidewalk grade. How it works between that and the second floor about 25-feet above that - I have no clue.

I am sure it will all make sense soon enough.

robertocarlos · #**1331** Posted **May 11, 2017, 4:13 PM**

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Originally Posted by drew

I was trying to figure out how it all works with the new and existing.

It's really confusing. The drive isles along Main street are still there, and the main floor of the tower and 330 Main are about 4-feet higher than current sidewalk grade. How it works between that and the second floor about 25-feet above that - I have no clue.

I am sure it will all make sense soon enough.

Don't ask me. I thought the restaurant was going to be on the top floor of the new tower.

The whole thing looks stunning.

DirtWednesday · #**1332** Posted **May 11, 2017, 6:35 PM**

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Originally Posted by robertocarlos

Don't ask me. I thought the restaurant was going to be on the top floor of the new tower.

The whole thing looks stunning.

I thought that at first too but noticed the other pergola on the main floor. But to answer your question about top floor restaurants on residential buildings, check out http://www.prairie360.ca/ on the Fort Garry towers. Has a separate express glass elevator to the top.

BigG · #**1333** Posted **May 12, 2017, 1:23 PM**

I've got to hand it to you, Drew. Thanks for throwing us a few bones. Now, are there any renderings?

Biff · #**1334** Posted **May 12, 2017, 1:38 PM**

Try this

bomberjet · #**1335** Posted **May 12, 2017, 1:41 PM**

Thanks BIff. So the middle section looks a bit different. Whats going in at the top of the apartment tower? So type of outdoor space. Almost looks like a hydro proposal with the circular opening!

esquire · #**1336** Posted **May 12, 2017, 2:37 PM**

^ At a glance everything looks the same except that middle portion... it's beefier now, I like it. The Main Street presence of Winnipeg Square will be dramatically improved once that goes up.

I'll say that the whole thing looks like a bit of a design mishmash now with none of the parts of Winnipeg Square really matching, but hey... at least it beats what's currently there.

Urban recluse · #**1337** Posted **May 12, 2017, 2:46 PM**

It would be nice if CDI College took those ugly murals off the windows, and restored the three covered with stucco.

oftheMoon · #**1338** Posted **May 12, 2017, 3:02 PM**

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Originally Posted by Urban recluse

It would be nice if CDI College took those ugly murals off the windows, and restored the three covered with stucco.

^^^

I think a bonafide grocer practically at the corner of Portage & Main will be game changing for downtown. As a car-less resident of the East Exchange, I will definitely support it.

Urban recluse · #**1339** Posted **May 12, 2017, 3:15 PM**

So many pieces of this proverbial puzzle coming together can create a great district: 300 Main, 272 Main, (SkyCity?????), opening P&M, Forks Railside, new hotel at 138 Portage, potential redevelopment of the lot adjacent to 201 Portage, potential new developments on Main opposite Railside. the redevelopment of Fortune Block, etc.

This is where all parties involved should come together to formulate a plan for this entire area, not just random individual developments.

Wolf13 · #**1340** Posted **May 12, 2017, 4:15 PM**

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Originally Posted by esquire

^ So is the intention to leave the unbuilt part along Fort for future development, or does this project eliminate that possibility?

It would be nice to see the door remain open to doing something on the Fort side, although I recognize that it's kind of awkward with the parkade ramps there.

Well, nobody is hoping for "future"... that's where the grocer would go... entrance is on the front side, you walk THROUGH the 330 portion, as it's not thick, and there's the grocer.

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Originally Posted by bomberjet

Thanks BIff. So the middle section looks a bit different. Whats going in at the top of the apartment tower? So type of outdoor space. Almost looks like a hydro proposal with the circular opening!

Artis has said they intend to put amenity space and common areas for the residents up there, including some outdoor space.

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Originally Posted by esquire

^ At a glance everything looks the same except that middle portion... it's beefier now, I like it. The Main Street presence of Winnipeg Square will be dramatically improved once that goes up.

I'll say that the whole thing looks like a bit of a design mishmash now with none of the parts of Winnipeg Square really matching, but hey... at least it beats what's currently there.

I really like what they've done... think of the design progression differently. Don't think 360, to 330, to 300... Think 300, to 330 to 360. 360 has always been there and is an amazing presence, but the new king of this block is 300, so you need 300 to be as bold as possible and try to base the complex off that...

300 clearly has some design features not seen anywhere in Canada other than perhaps vancouver with that round corner and wood beam treatment. Central portion, with a more modern application of wood texture, shows a slight departure from the more "organic" corner at Main and Graham, which transitions well to the very clean but uniform appearance of 360.

That makes sense in my head, could be jibberish though.