YVR Airport & Sea Island Developments Discussion - Page 575

Johnny Aussie · #**11481** Posted **May 3, 2017, 10:02 AM**

Big announcement on the way...

4 times weekly 789

AC37 YVR 2345 - 0945+2 MEL 1356
AC38 MEL 1140 - 0730 YVR 1357

Right now looks seasonal 1 Dec - 2 Feb

tayser · #**11482** Posted **May 3, 2017, 10:51 AM**

Ooooooooo, Caaaaaa-nah-duh.

'scuse French, but: fkn finally! (even if it is only seasonal).

trofirhen · #**11483** Posted **May 3, 2017, 11:43 AM**

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Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

Big announcement on the way...

4 times weekly 789

AC37 YVR 2345 - 0945+2 MEL 1356
AC38 MEL 1140 - 0730 YVR 1357

Right now looks seasonal 1 Dec - 2 Feb

YIPPEE !!!! But only two (2) months a year??? Oh well, it's a start .....

YVR Bruce · #**11484** Posted **May 3, 2017, 2:32 PM**

The news releases has been posted on AC's site.

It also announces 2/ wk Rouge 763 to Orlando over Dec 20- Apr 8th. An interesting part of the release: Rouge 2/wk YUL-Lima - which places crews in hotels there able to support 1-2 cycles from YVR perhaps, someday.

thenoflyzone · #**11485** Posted **May 3, 2017, 2:43 PM**

Great adds for YVR.

However, only 34 or so flights to MEL for the season. Seems this route could support more flights, no? Could be the combination of SYD, BNE and MEL is too much for daily service to all three.

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Originally Posted by YVR Bruce

The news releases has been posted on AC's site.

It also announces 2/ wk Rouge 763 to Orlando over Dec 20- Apr 8th. An interesting part of the release: Rouge 2/wk YUL-Lima - which places crews in hotels there able to support 1-2 cycles from YVR perhaps, someday.

TS's Cartagena flights aside, this is YUL's first flight to (deep) South America ! Now firmly established as a "5 continent club" airport.

YUL-PHX is also a nice add. I know a few people who vacation in Arizona every year. They will be particularly happy with YUL-PHX as well.

Cage · #**11486** Posted **May 3, 2017, 3:28 PM**

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Originally Posted by YVR Bruce

The news releases has been posted on AC's site.

It also announces 2/ wk Rouge 763 to Orlando over Dec 20- Apr 8th. An interesting part of the release: Rouge 2/wk YUL-Lima - which places crews in hotels there able to support 1-2 cycles from YVR perhaps, someday.

I read the AC announcement before coffee this morning. When I read

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Vancouver to Melbourne and Orlando

I honestly questioned aloud why two Florida destinations were added simultaneously. I figured that AC was responding to the ULCC talk.

Then I had a cup of coffee and the brain kicked in. Congrats YVR on the new routes!

Canadian74 · #**11487** Posted **May 3, 2017, 3:36 PM**

YVR-MEL will be the longest AC flight, correct? It seems longer than YYZ-HKG or YYZ-BOM

Hope it becomes year round

Gordon · #**11488** Posted **May 3, 2017, 5:32 PM**

Nice to get these new routes Let's hope they both go year around.

Has any new info come out about the new pier F @ YVR?

LeftCoaster · #**11489** Posted **May 3, 2017, 6:12 PM**

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Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

Big announcement on the way...

4 times weekly 789

AC37 YVR 2345 - 0945+2 MEL 1356
AC38 MEL 1140 - 0730 YVR 1357

Right now looks seasonal 1 Dec - 2 Feb

I knew this would bring you out of retirement!

AC playing this one cautiously it seems, dipping their toes in. I think it will be a success though and see expansion quickly, so long as the NDP don't get in and send the economy into a nosedive.

LeftCoaster · #**11490** Posted **May 3, 2017, 6:13 PM**

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Originally Posted by YVR Bruce

Rouge 2/wk YUL-Lima - which places crews in hotels there able to support 1-2 cycles from YVR perhaps, someday.

ya this one was totally strange to me. What ties does YUL have with LIM? Not surprised AC gave YUL another route as they are doing quite well right now but Lima seems like such an out of left field choice. I would have figured if they went S. America it would be up against TS in Cartegena.

excel · #**11491** Posted **May 3, 2017, 7:19 PM**

Great news.

Cage · #**11492** Posted **May 3, 2017, 8:09 PM**

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Originally Posted by Canadian74

YVR-MEL will be the longest AC flight, correct? It seems longer than YYZ-HKG or YYZ-BOM

Hope it becomes year round

Strip down the 789 and turn it into a flying gas can and MEL becomes a good destination.

Doubtful that MEL becomes year round. This route announcement is aimed at QF and will offer up to 3 flights per day on Canada-Australia.

Finally, the route is meant to soak up spare capacity during the slower winter season.

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Originally Posted by Gordon

Nice to get these new routes Let's hope they both go year around.

Has any new info come out about the new pier F @ YVR?

Doubtful that either route would go year round. YVR-MCO is highly seasonal and YVR-Australia is moderately seasonal. Upgrades to the premium cabins just became available. Additonally, as mentioned above, there are better places to put the 789 and rouge 763 in the summer schedule.

YVR doesn't need pier F as much as the Pier D extension. I would do the pier D extension all at once, based on the recent route announcements.

LeftCoaster · #**11493** Posted **May 3, 2017, 8:37 PM**

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Originally Posted by Cage

Doubtful that MEL becomes year round. This route announcement is aimed at QF and will offer up to 3 flights per day on Canada-Australia.

I might not be following you here but why would QF be interested in MEL-YVR. Wouldn't their first order of business be making SYD-YVR daily and year round as that's their preferred hub?

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Originally Posted by Cage

YVR doesn't need pier F as much as the Pier D extension. I would do the pier D extension all at once, based on the recent route announcements.

That's what I said a couple months ago when this was all announced. Given Pier D's ability to swing to transborder it really solves both if international for some strange reason contracts and transborder grows.

SFUVancouver · #**11494** Posted **May 3, 2017, 9:38 PM**

Great news on Melbourne and Orlando. Gratifying to see AC continue to develop routes from YVR and put their new metal to use. Still excitedly waiting to see how the C-Series affects route development.

Cage · #**11495** Posted **May 3, 2017, 10:10 PM**

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Originally Posted by LeftCoaster

I might not be following you here but why would QF be interested in MEL-YVR. Wouldn't their first order of business be making SYD-YVR daily and year round as that's their preferred hub?

For QF to make SYD-YVR work, they have to be able to flow traffic from BNE, PER, MEL, ADL, etc. through SYD and to YVR. However the Domestic to International connection in SYD is the most time consuming and hub busting process ever created, its truly gawd awful experience for everyone. In a nut shell. the runway between the QF Domestic and International terminals is the issue.

Of AC runs larger aircraft or more frequent service to SYD, then both QF and AC are on the same footing. However, if AC runs smaller Dreamliner aircraft to each of SYD, BNE, & MEL; then QF cannot access the secondary markets for their services, especially for premium cabin services.

LeftCoaster · #**11496** Posted **May 3, 2017, 10:34 PM**

Gotcha, thanks!

tayser · #**11497** Posted **May 3, 2017, 11:09 PM**

Just looked at the fares, Economy MEL-YVR-MEL return in Jan is ~$2500-$3000 (AUD)

Suppose you'd expect that for peak (at both ends: height of summer / Australian Open and Skiing in BC/AB) travel period however.

LeftCoaster · #**11498** Posted **May 3, 2017, 11:49 PM**

Looks to be about a $1,000 premium to the cheapest fares but a 15-20 hour time savings, so if you value your time at around $50 to $75 an hour, which is not that outrageous, the fare makes sense.

vanlaw · #**11499** Posted **May 4, 2017, 12:06 AM**

Re: MEL - There's some first half December fares for under $1400 CAD. Not bad.

Re: MCO - the AC flights are daytime flights, leave YVR in the morning. This is far more attractive (depending on perspective and preference I guess) than the WJ red-eye to MCO.

zahav · #**11500** Posted **May 5, 2017, 7:47 AM**

March stats posted. Growth picked up pretty significantly from February's breather figures... Domestic up 3.5%, Transborder up 8.7%, Asia Pac up 16.3%, Misc up 25.9%. Europe down again, but by far less than previous months, down 2.5%

These high growth figures are amazing, for years YVR wasn't posting anywhere close to these numbers (Misc and Asia Pacific especially, but even transborder with 8.7% is really high actually, for years the Bellingham factor and other things made transborder the weakest part of the airport). But not anymore. And this growth was without any real new routes starting that month. Once all the new summer routes come online grwoth should continue well