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Just to illustrate my previous posts today, THIS is a substantial tower that is striking and commanding. It would dominate the southern end of the skyline. Its roofline would be higher than WG, and its about 10 feet shy of supertall status (300 meters) at 975 feet.
This and City Lights proposal are my two favorites in the pipeline right now.

Best part is...if built... each of the city's tallest would not interfere with each other. Each presides over its portion of the skyline, the way in Chicago the Sears, Hancock, Aon, and T*^#p Towers do.
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It'll also be the 3rd tallest in the city!
     
     
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Not to mention, we have yet to see renderings of the 714-footer at 11th and Olive
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 25, 2017, 11:14 PM
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South Park will be our Manhattan one day.

I like that design too. It's NOT mediocrity.

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That tower will connect our skyline (that one and the Olympia towers).



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I wouldn't care too much about the other 700+ tower.
Morad Ben Neman had some legal trouble (shortly after he bought the land) and my sources don't believe that we see a new tower soon.
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I wouldn't care too much about the other 700+ tower.
Morad Ben Neman had some legal trouble (shortly after he bought the land) and my sources don't believe that we see a new tower soon.
I think he/she meant the 714 footer by Crescent Heights. Olympic Tower has the least chance of being built out of everything in the pipeline. Onni/Mitsui/Shenlong/Hazens/Crescent Heights/Carmel are all real deal developers. Hoping they all get shovels in the ground ASAP!
     
     
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Bwin517 is spot on about "real deal developers".

As with every proposal that pops up for our fair city, the first question to ask is where will the money come from to build it. Far too many grandiose plans come and go (Park Fifth, the car wash site, etc) because the "developer" is just a lot owner seeking entitlements with the hope of flipping for a tidy profit.

There's not much information about Justin Leong or Regalian out there, here's an old article with a fair bit of detail however-

https://www.forbes.com/global/2008/0519/044.html

Let's hope those pockets are still very deep or he has a financing plan in the works.
     
     
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Bwin517 must have read my mind.

As with every proposal that pops up for our fair city, the first question to ask is where will the money come from to build it. Far too many grandiose plans come and go (Park Fifth, the car wash site, etc) because the "developer" is just a lot owner seeking entitlements with the hope of flipping for a tidy profit.

There's not much information about Justin Leong or Regalian out there, here's an old article with a fair bit of detail however-

https://www.forbes.com/global/2008/0519/044.html

Let's hope those pockets are still very deep or he has a financing plan in the works.
Gentings is HUGE. They have casinos all over the world including Singapore, Malaysia, Philippines, the UK and are building a multi-billion dollar resort/casino in Las Vegas. They do have deep pockets, that's for sure.This is the first I've heard of them building a mixed-used complex though.
     
     
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From Los Angeles Downtown News:

A New Vision With the Civic Center Master Plan
Six-Phase Plan Aims to Add Housing, Retail and a Lot of Office Space to the District






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DTLA - During the workweek, the Civic Center is one of the busiest parts of Downtown, with thousands of city, county, state and federal workers navigating the sidewalks and filling a dozen-plus large office buildings.

Beyond work hours, however, the district regresses to a collection of dead blocks with a bare sliver of foot traffic.

Altering that reality amid a quickly changing Downtown Los Angeles is one of the priorities in the recently approved Civic Center Master Plan. The document, prepared by the office of the City Administrative Officer, IBI Group and Ernst & Young and completed in January, lays out six distinct phases of work spread over 15 years, with strategies that mirror Downtown’s current embrace of density and uses that mix residential, retail and office with fewer seams.

The issue came into sharp focus late last month, when the City Council unanimously voted to approve the Master Plan, which was originally introduced in 2015 by 14th District City Councilman José Huizar. The council also voted to raze Parker Center, the former police headquarters, to make way for a 27-story city office tower.

“The Civic Center Master Plan provides an exciting blueprint for the future of Los Angeles that will open up City Hall and the Civic Center to increased public interaction through paseos and open space intermingled with multi-use City towers that will provide ample space to more efficiently do the city’s business, while also providing for other uses, such as retail, residential and restaurants,” Huizar said in a March 24 statement after the council vote.

A key to the Master Plan is to reduce the costs of leasing office space by building city-owned structures. About 1.2 million square feet are needed to accommodate city employees, according to the report.

Bringing in new residents and retail is a secondary aim, but those factors could improve connectivity, said Robert Jernigan, regional managing principal for the Downtown office of architecture and design firm Gensler.

“Baby boomers loved boundaries, and we designed a boundary-filled world. But a civic area that is dedicated to purely government uses is an inefficient idea,” said Jernigan, who is not involved with the project. “If people work eight to nine hours a day, and the buildings are otherwise empty, you’re getting a smaller percent of utilization. Because of that, none of the amenities that make a neighborhood great exist there.”

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Link: http://www.ladowntownnews.com/developmen...3d6834a-2918-11e7-ae2d-67458c53157b.html
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Pergolas, trees, etc. would do the trick!
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Gentings is HUGE. They have casinos all over the world including Singapore, Malaysia, Philippines, the UK and are building a multi-billion dollar resort/casino in Las Vegas. They do have deep pockets, that's for sure.This is the first I've heard of them building a mixed-used complex though.
Genting wouldn't be building this building; it would be Justin Leong, whose uncle runs Genting and whose grandfather founded it. They have money!!!

Also, I love the new civic center master plan. I also love the quote that said Baby boomers loved boundaries and that we love to tear those boundaries down.

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I wouldn't care too much about the other 700+ tower.
Morad Ben Neman had some legal trouble (shortly after he bought the land) and my sources don't believe that we see a new tower soon.
I think having the car wash tower and this 975 foot tower so close together might actually be illegal for fire reasons. Any body want to look that up?
     
     
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I think having the car wash tower and this 975 foot tower so close together might actually be illegal for fire reasons. Any body want to look that up?
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Figueroa Centre proposed 66 story, 975-foot tower! This will actually look taller than Wilshire Grand!



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Wilshire Grand roof height is 934 ft (the spire made it 1100ft) so definitely looks like the top floor of this building is higher than Wilshire Grand.

Also, I suspect that this tower will eventually get 2 more stories and push it over 300 meter.
     
     
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I think having the car wash tower and this 975 foot tower so close together might actually be illegal for fire reasons. Any body want to look that up?
You have a good sense of humor.


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I like the "Civic Center Master Plan", but six distinct phases of work spread over 15 years?
Well we have to be patient for that one.
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Wilshire Grand roof height is 934 ft (the spire made it 1100ft) so definitely looks like the top floor of this building is higher than Wilshire Grand.

Also, I suspect that this tower will eventually get 2 more stories and push it over 300 meter.
Hope you are right but I wouldn't hold my breath for that.
     
     
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Wilshire Grand roof height is 934 ft (the spire made it 1100ft) so definitely looks like the top floor of this building is higher than Wilshire Grand.

Also, I suspect that this tower will eventually get 2 more stories and push it over 300 meter.
What makes you say this? Any evidence you'd like to share?
     
     
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I think having the car wash tower and this 975 foot tower so close together might actually be illegal for fire reasons. Any body want to look that up?
I don't know about LAFD regulations, but the Downtown Design Guide states that for new construction, any portion of a building higher than 150 feet needs 80 feet of separation from an adjacent tower.

Hotel Fig is built property line to property line, and is about 70 feet across. The street level center of 925 Fig shows a slight setback from the property line, so I think it probably adheres to the DTLA Design Guide.
     
     
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I don't know about LAFD regulations, but the Downtown Design Guide states that for new construction, any portion of a building higher than 150 feet needs 80 feet of separation from an adjacent tower.

Hotel Fig is built property line to property line, and is about 70 feet across. The street level center of 925 Fig shows a slight setback from the property line, so I think it probably adheres to the DTLA Design Guide.
That's the rule I was thinking of. I thought it was LAFD because it seemed more for reasons of safety than design.
     
     
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Six-Phase Plan Aims to Add Housing, Retail and a Lot of Office Space to the District
All I can say is that this better allow for the eventual demolition of the monstrosities flanking Grand Park.

And I really hope that they don't commission either Gensler or Gehry.
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