3560 Hull Street and 2070, 2088, and 2090 East 20 Avenue
I received late word that there was an open house going on for a site in Kensington-Cedar Cottage today. Here's some info from the open house. Turnout was rather low. There were a couple of loud nimby voices, but there were more than a few in favor of the project. Unfortunately, the developer feels there is zero chance of getting anything more for density without risking a backlash from the neighbours.
An interesting note about the heritage home is that only about a third of the existing structure is original. This is the reason for the different appearance of the home in the rendering vs the current design. Only the original portion will be kept.
The four properties were listed for 14 million, but I don't know what the assembly ultimately sold for.
I think this is for the project below at Alma & Broadway-
Future 2nd phase after the UBC Line is built - assuming zoning is up-zoned to accommodate.
Love/hate this: city won't rezone for 12 stories now, so get it rezoned
for 6 and plan to add another 6 after a second rezoning https://twitter.com/GRIDSVancouver
I think this is for the project below at Alma & Broadway-
Future 2nd phase after the UBC Line is built - assuming zoning is up-zoned to accommodate.
Love/hate this: city won't rezone for 12 stories now, so get it rezoned
for 6 and plan to add another 6 after a second rezoning https://twitter.com/GRIDSVancouver
I'm able to provide some clarity from tonight's Alma Broadway open house. I can confirm that the building is being designed to be able to accommodate an additional 6 stories. For the model at tonight's open house, there actually was a plastic cap that could be placed onto the model to show how it would look with the extra 6 stories. However the city wouldn't let them display it.
Initially the team thought that Translink was going to require them to rough in a station entrance for the future M line expansion. However, as of now, Translink has only asked for an emergency exit. Apparently the future station house will be going across the street.
I also have a few photos of the model that I'll post later today.
Love this type of "anticipated development". Really reminds me of Bentall 5, albeit at a much smaller scale, and sometimes I wish more buildings in Vancouver can accommodate height extensions in the future.
Perhaps the developer should say, "We are considering the application to rezone the property to a 12-storey building in anticipation of a new City Council". That would be more appropriate.
This really defies the argument that shorter buildings can support the same density as taller ones. Nope, they don't. In this case, perhaps 60 additional units of rental spaces are added with the increased height, meaning around a 100 more people can afford to live in Van West. If this building can go up to 30 stories, that would be another 360 people able to live in that neighbourhood.
^ exactly. If the size of fooorplates remain the same than height most definitely adds density. For some reason some people think it's an either or. That you can either have a short large floor plate building or a tall skinny tower, in which case height does not necessarily mean more density
And that 12 story version seems much more appropriate for broadway (even with it butting up against SFH) than the shorter one!
Which City Council party do you expect will allow more development, get rid of view cones, etc?
If this is a platform you want to see in Nov 2018, I suggest you form a party around it and start campaigning now. Vision is far more development friendly than the NPA has ever been.
Which City Council party do you expect will allow more development, get rid of view cones, etc?
If this is a platform you want to see in Nov 2018, I suggest you form a party around it and start campaigning now. Vision is far more development friendly than the NPA has ever been.
Not particularly a party, but rather councillors who are more progressive and can make sense of basic logic, of course.
This really defies the argument that shorter buildings can support the same density as taller ones. Nope, they don't.
No, it doesn't. It all comes down to the floorplates.
I've shown you before how a 12 story building with large flootplates can have a higher density/FSR than a 30-story tower. It all depends on the size of the floor plates.
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My photos of the model from the April 5th open house. If the shadowing makes the model look this good, imagine what it could do for the actual building.
No, it doesn't. It all comes down to the floorplates.
I've shown you before how a 12 story building with large flootplates can have a higher density/FSR than a 30-story tower. It all depends on the size of the floor plates.
I disagree. You're assuming it's either a short large floorplate building or a tall small floorplate building.
If that 30 story building has the same size floorplate as the 12 story one you would have higher density. So yes an increase in height does mean an increase in density assuming floorplate size remains the same
I disagree. You're assuming it's either a short large floorplate building or a tall small floorplate building.
If that 30 story building has the same size floorplate as the 12 story one you would have higher density. So yes an increase in height does mean an increase in density assuming floorplate size remains the same
You just basically repeated what I said.
But you have to remember the city imposed FSR limits. You can't build a 30-story tower with the same large floorplates as a 12-story midrise in this city.
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But you have to remember the city imposed FSR limits. You can't build a 30-story tower with the same large floorplates as a 12-story midrise in this city.
Lol yes sorry you are right!
And yeah this city doesn't like tall large floorplate buildings. It should though
This step means that RCH is now further ahead of St. Paul's in the process. Both projects are similar in size, I can't imagine both happening at once, but I suppose they are still less than 1 Massey Bridge combined.
And yeah this city doesn't like tall large floorplate buildings. It should though
That's only if there are restrictions. But even if the taller building has a smaller floorplate foorprint, it will still achieve way higher density than a height-restricted building, which is essentially just the podium of a taller building.
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You just basically repeated what I said.
But you have to remember the city imposed FSR limits. You can't build a 30-story tower with the same large floorplates as a 12-story midrise in this city.
Nothing in this world is set in stone. Things can change, and people living in that place will make the changes. Burnaby is now building larger towers with big floorplates.
Nothing in this world is set in stone. Things can change, and people living in that place will make the changes. Burnaby is now building larger towers with big floorplates.
Sure, but even the towers in Burnaby don't have 15-20,000 square foot floorplates like you can have of an 8-12 story midrise
nor do I see 30+ story residential towers ever being built with those floorplates in Vancouver.
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This step means that RCH is now further ahead of St. Paul's in the process. Both projects are similar in size, I can't imagine both happening at once, but I suppose they are still less than 1 Massey Bridge combined.
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