Canadian City Proposals

[Martin Mtl]

/\ It's neither. The real downtown is Saint-Roch, isn't it ?

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by O-tacular

I didn't think the old city was considered the DT. I thought it was only that suburban hellscape when you drive in to Ste. Foye.

I guess it depends on your point of view. If you ask where downtown Quebec City is, I'd point you to Grande-Allée and the old town. But maybe that's just me.

[franktko]

I'd say it's Saint-Roch, Saint-Jean-Baptiste and the Old City...

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by franktko

I'd say it's Saint-Roch, Saint-Jean-Baptiste and the Old City...

That's about right.

[esquire]

What a vast improvement over the initial concept for Phare. But that is really a weird situation they have there with their highrise offices... I get that Quebec doesn't want more towers intruding on the charm of the old centre, but there has to be a better way than the weird pseudo-Houston/North York development model that is taking off on boul. Laurier.

[kwoldtimer]

Originally Posted by esquire

What a vast improvement over the initial concept for Phare. But that is really a weird situation they have there with their highrise offices... I get that Quebec doesn't want more towers intruding on the charm of the old centre, but there has to be a better way than the weird pseudo-Houston/North York development model that is taking off on boul. Laurier.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't that model take off decades ago along the Sainte-Foy strip?

[esquire]

Originally Posted by kwoldtimer

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't that model take off decades ago along the Sainte-Foy strip?

Yeah, fair enough. I remember it was pretty much the same when I visited Quebec City for the first time in 1996... just that there are more towers now.

I wonder if Quebec City is intent on letting development proceed in that manner, or if there are any plans to improve the streetscape a bit and make it feel a bit more urban? As things stand it looks like a somewhat scaled-down version of the Galleria area in Houston... towers, parking lots and wide streets.

[TorontoDrew]

Originally Posted by nephersir7

There are discussions for integrating a major bus interchange station within the Phare complex as part of the upcoming Quebec BRT network, so it will be a very attractive area for more development.

There are also already plans by the same developer to build two 30-story towers across the street (site #2)

Nevermind a BRT, this road is screaming for an LRT.

[Rico Rommheim]

Originally Posted by Martin Mtl

/\ It's neither. The real downtown is Saint-Roch, isn't it ?

When I visited St-Roch last month, I very much felt "downtown" (both literally and figuratively). The way I interpret it is that Quebec has 3 very much distinct "downtowns", each with their own sections:

-The government centre (the up-town)
-The touristic centre (old quebec)
-The commercial and entertainment centre (St-Roch)

[WhipperSnapper]

Originally Posted by esquire

What a vast improvement over the initial concept for Phare. But that is really a weird situation they have there with their highrise offices... I get that Quebec doesn't want more towers intruding on the charm of the old centre, but there has to be a better way than the weird pseudo-Houston/North York development model that is taking off on boul. Laurier.

Internally focused mega blocks like this aren't really typical to downtown North York. Downtown Houston is the exact opposite. Small blocks capable of holding one tower surrounded by multi-lane streets. The pavement coverage of the downtown core much be around 50%.

[esquire]

Originally Posted by WhipperSnapper

Internally focused mega blocks like this aren't really typical to downtown North York. Downtown Houston is the exact opposite. Small blocks capable of holding one tower surrounded by multi-lane streets. The pavement coverage of the downtown core much be around 50%.

I wasn't talking about downtown Houston, I said the area around the Galleria in Houston (aka Uptown)... basically suburbia with skyscraper offices.



San Felipe Plaza in Uptown is a particularly good example of a skyscraper schlepped into an autocentric suburban area.

[isaidso]

Originally Posted by Rico Rommheim

What makes it particularly ugly is its unapologetically automobile-centric form. Its a complete rejection of the street, of the sidewalk. I was there on an wednesday evening and felt awkward as I was the only pedestrian in sight. Weird.

It would improve things immensely if they developed a typical north American street grid in that entire area. Have blocks of similar length as one sees in downtown Montreal with traffic lights and stop signs at each intersection. Not only east west streets but north south streets as well. The last thing you want is mega block after mega block. That's what makes it feel like you're walking next to a highway. It's worth noting that lots of streets in Manhattan are 6 lanes wide.

It would take long term vision but eventually density and a large resident population would allow for generously wide sidewalks; maybe even landscaping between the road and sidewalk. That road is so wide but it's an opportunity rather than a problem.

[vicdevelopments]

a 13 and 10 story buildings rental units
thumbnail_IMG_0171 by steven roberts, on Flickr

17 and 15 story buildings Johnson Street condos
thumbnail_IMG_0172 by steven roberts, on Flickr

9 story building on View Street
thumbnail_IMG_0173 by steven roberts, on Flickr

17 story building on Yates Street Condos
thumbnail_IMG_0174 by steven roberts, on Flickr

3 towers at up to 20 stories each mix of Condos and Rental units
thumbnail_IMG_0175 by steven roberts, on Flickr

15 and 11 story buildings on Yates Street both rental units
thumbnail_IMG_0176 by steven roberts, on Flickr

just finished a 10 story condo building on Broughton Street
thumbnail_IMG_0177 by steven roberts, on Flickr

Mix use phase 1 on Superior Street
thumbnail_IMG_0178 by steven roberts, on Flickr

Hudson phase 2 and 3 17 and 24 story buildings
thumbnail_IMG_0179 by steven roberts, on Flickr

1515 Douglas Street 13 and 6 story office buildings
thumbnail_IMG_0181 by steven roberts, on Flickr

Hudson Walk phase 1 and 2 16 and 15 story rental buildings
thumbnail_IMG_0184 by steven roberts, on Flickr

bayview phase 3 songhees hilltop 17 story condo tower
thumbnail_IMG_0186 by steven roberts

[nephersir7]

Originally Posted by TorontoDrew

Nevermind a BRT, this road is screaming for an LRT.

According to Quebec city's mayor:

"I think, personally that in 20, 25 years, they will have invented new electric buses with more capacity. Project yourself into the future, 20-25 years from now, I think there won't even be LRTs anymore. That's a feeling I have."

[dleung]

Originally Posted by WhipperSnapper

Typical Dleung. Throw some childish insult and than go off on a completely unrelated tangent to the discussion. You could easily be the next president of the United States.

Disagreeing with your opinion about the terraces on the 3XN building is an "unrelated tangent"?? Is that an attempt at comedy?

You're like the most serious person on this forum - it's not an insult to acknowledge that!

[Coldrsx]

@vicdevelopments- wrong thread.



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Yet another good sized tower for Edmonton 2 blocks west of Downtown.

An application has been made to rezone 9918, 9922, & 9930 - 111 St. NW. The proposed plan would change the zoning from a Direct Development Control Provision (DC1) to a Site Specific Control Provision (DC2) to facilitate the development of a high-rise residential building.

The proposed tower includes:
Height of 90 metres (Approx. 30 storeys);
Floor Area Ratio of 15.0;
173 Dwellings; and
Underground parking
An amendment to the Oliver Area Redevelopment Plan (ARP) is required.

Here are the open house details:

Date: Thursday, April 6, 2017
Time: 6:30pm
Location: Oliver School (10227 118 St. NW)


https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8041/29757301176_8b90ea7ba5_b.jpg

[koops65]

There are a bunch of fairly tall Toronto proposals that have had renders posted on here over the past few months that haven't yet made their way onto the database.
Bold are estimates

From January and February:

111 Pacific Ave. - 33 floors, 108 metres
111 Pacific Ave. - 29 floors, 94 metres
325 Bogert - 27 floors, 87 metres

Daniels MCC - 42 floors, 136 metres
High Park Village - 39 floors, 126 metres
160 Chalkfarm - 36 floors, 112 metres
High Park Village - 34 Floors, 110 metres
980 Landsdowne - 30 floors, 93 metres
High Park Village - 29 floors, 95 metres
980 Landsdowne - 28 floors, 87 metres
980 Landsdowne - 26 floors, 81 metres

And just in the last week:

328 Dupont - 29 floors, 92 metres
101 Spadina - 46 floors, 144 metres
552 Church - 40 floors, 123 metres

[GeneralLea]

Originally Posted by koops65

There are a bunch of fairly tall Toronto proposals that have had renders posted on here over the past few months that haven't yet made their way onto the database.
Bold are estimates


Daniels MCC - 42 floors, 136 metres

Aight, I was in the area and.....the sales centre is poppin up now:
[IMG]DSC_0162 by Joshua Kennington Photographics, on Flickr[/IMG]
[IMG]DSC_0163 by Joshua Kennington Photographics, on Flickr[/IMG]
[IMG]DSC_0164 by Joshua Kennington Photographics, on Flickr[/IMG]
I was also able to get a shot of the flashy M City sales centre thingy:
[IMG]DSC_0160 by Joshua Kennington Photographics, on Flickr[/IMG]

[WhipperSnapper]

Originally Posted by dleung

Disagreeing with your opinion about the terraces on the 3XN building is an "unrelated tangent"?? Is that an attempt at comedy?

You're like the most serious person on this forum - it's not an insult to acknowledge that!

As impossible as it sounds perhaps I still give you still too much credit. Someone as pompous and derogatory shouldn't be so easily confused responding to a discussion over the practical usage of terraces facing the inner harbour in high priced Toronto with built form that step backs/terraces provide to the pedestrian's experience. This confusion happens more often than not with you.

My seriousness is simply a veil hiding a true comedic genius. It's not for everyone. Still would have thought you of all people would have figured it out. Then again, your sense of comedy is about as mature as a 13 year old.

[WhipperSnapper]

Daniels MCC is also listed under its name.