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Car(e)-Free LA · #**4621** Posted **Mar 8, 2017, 3:09 PM**

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Originally Posted by bobbyv

The results are in according to the LAtimes, Measure S was soundly defeated

and Measure H narrowly passed.

The one good election of the year! Perhaps this will convince the city council to have more spine when standing up to NIMBYs, and convince them to allow bigger development!

colemonkee · #**4622** Posted **Mar 8, 2017, 3:55 PM**

^ Technically the only election of the year so far, but yes, agree that the results were (thankfully) positive.

Steve8263 · #**4623** Posted **Mar 8, 2017, 4:03 PM**

I believe Weinstein is now 1 for 4 on ballot measures-

-Porn condom requirement for LA county (passed)
-Porn condom statewide (failed)
-VA drug pricing statewide manipulation (failed)
-Measure S (failed)

Unfortunately I think this is just the start for this guy and we will be seeing much more from him, not less sadly.

The Illusive Man · #**4624** Posted **Mar 8, 2017, 5:25 PM**

I'm glad it passed but all this development has me kinda scared for my mom. She's lived in the same rent controlled apartment for damn near 30 years in the Mar Vista area. I've already noted a nearby strip mall getting ready to be torn down for a mixed use development. I fear the buildings on her block may be numbered for more mixed use. Time will tell.

colemonkee · #**4625** Posted **Mar 8, 2017, 5:28 PM**

^ One way to combat that would be to lobby for stricter protections and controls for rent-controlled apartments.

ChargerCarl · #**4626** Posted **Mar 8, 2017, 5:48 PM**

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Originally Posted by Valyrian Steel

Like the fine folks at Curbed LA would say, F U Joel Kotkin.

I actually thought Kotkin was opposed to this.

Regardless, LA voters have made me proud this year.

colemonkee · #**4627** Posted **Mar 8, 2017, 6:41 PM**

Kotkin was opposed to Measure S. One of the few times I've ever agreed with him.

CastleScott · #**4628** Posted **Mar 8, 2017, 7:43 PM**

Congrads LA guys for the big wins-here in Sacramento the NIMBY's seem to rein surpreme.

ChargerCarl · #**4629** Posted **Mar 8, 2017, 7:48 PM**

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Originally Posted by CastleScott

Congrads LA guys for the big wins-here in Sacramento the NIMBY's seem to rein surpreme.

It's maddening isn't it? I've been following Sacremento's burgeoning housing crisis and it's a perfect microcosm for all thats wrong with our planning system.

NativeOrange · #**4630** Posted **Mar 8, 2017, 8:07 PM**

This isn't just a "we won but everything goes back to normal", type thing. Winning by such a huge margin sets a major YIMBY precedent.

One thing I wonder though is what happens with all the proposals pushed through in the last 6 months that were in fear of S passing?

CastleScott · #**4631** Posted **Mar 8, 2017, 8:07 PM**

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It's maddening isn't it? I've been following Sacremento's burgeoning housing crisis and it's a perfect microcosm for all thats wrong with our planning system.

Yes it sure is and its also so sad that the local politicans are just to gutless to fix this crap.

Valyrian Steel · #**4632** Posted **Mar 8, 2017, 11:02 PM**

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Originally Posted by ChargerCarl

I actually thought Kotkin was opposed to this.

Regardless, LA voters have made me proud this year.

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Originally Posted by colemonkee

Kotkin was opposed to Measure S. One of the few times I've ever agreed with him.

Lol, didn't know that.

Illithid Dude · #**4633** Posted **Mar 8, 2017, 11:37 PM**

Incredibly happy that Measure S failed, especially to the degree that it did. Now we can move on and make LA the best city it can be!

ChargerCarl · #**4634** Posted **Mar 8, 2017, 11:40 PM**

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Originally Posted by Valyrian Steel

Lol, didn't know that.

In fairness, Kotkin's views are all over the map and usually incoherent when taken together.

colemonkee · #**4635** Posted **Mar 9, 2017, 1:12 AM**

To bring this thread back from politics to development, one of the more noticeable affects of Measure S not passing that we may see is a slowdown in new proposals. A lot of proposals were fast tracked in order to get in line prior to Measure S passing, so now we should see more of a true, market-based control of development.

We already have what seems to be a record amount of construction downtown, so it will be interesting to see which projects break ground next, given that getting in front of Measure S is no longer a catalyst for rushing through the approvals process and breaking ground.

ChargerCarl · #**4636** Posted **Mar 9, 2017, 1:14 AM**

Next on the agenda, repealing Proposition U:

http://marketurbanism.com/2016/06/10/keep-los-angeles-affordable-by-repealing-proposition-u/

CaliNative · #**4637** Posted **Mar 9, 2017, 9:02 AM**

Can someone confirm the rumor about a 80-95 floor, 1150-1250 foot multiuse (apts/condos/offices/retail) tower proposal in downtown L.A.? Hopefully it will happen now that measure S lost, and height transfers are still possible (got Library/US Bank Tower built)

JerellO · #**4638** Posted **Mar 9, 2017, 9:28 AM**

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Originally Posted by CaliNative

Can someone confirm the rumor about a 80-95 floor, 1150-1250 foot multiuse (apts/condos/offices/retail) tower proposal in downtown L.A.? Hopefully it will happen now that measure S lost, and height transfers are still possible (got Library/US Bank Tower built)

Where did you hear this??

Resident · #**4639** Posted **Mar 9, 2017, 11:12 AM**

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Originally Posted by CaliNative

Can someone confirm the rumor about a 80-95 floor, 1150-1250 foot multiuse (apts/condos/offices/retail) tower proposal in downtown L.A.? Hopefully it will happen now that measure S lost, and height transfers are still possible (got Library/US Bank Tower built)

No. Wherever you got this rumor don't believe a single word of it.

WestCoastSupertall · #**4640** Posted **Mar 9, 2017, 6:04 PM**

^ maybe he's thinking of the Angel's Knoll site, but nothing's proposed