Burnaby Updates

[towerseeker101]

Originally Posted by burnaby.

I understand that the Saputo/Dairyland site at 6800 Loughheed Hwy Burnaby just went on the market (quietly) with Avison Young's Toronto office but I'm wondering if anyone has any idea what's going on with the Telus site next door (7000 Lougheed)? Telus have been clearing their site for some time in preparation for something? Combined the parcels of land would be over 33 acres....it could potentially be a massive project right beside the Sperling Skytrain. Intel anyone?

Wow! This is exciting. I live relatively close by to Saputo and was wondering if they'd ever move. Perfect location with a large adjacent empty piece of land (former Telus office, now demolished but the land is sitting empty). Sperling station has a bus loop that services 144 SFU/Metrotown, 110 Brentwood/Lougheed, and 134 Lake City/Brentwood. It'll be disappointing if another company buys the Dairyland site and keeps it an industrial area. Even if the land gets redeveloped, the rampant NIMBY'ism of the area will probably limit the land to townhome/low-rise duty. It's unfortunate that significant densification around Sperling Skytrain station will probably never happen.

With regards to the empty Telus property, from what I remember reading, Telus has already sold the land to a different company. There were plans to make some strip mall type thing but, honestly that seemed like a terrible idea in my opinion. Looks like nothing came out of it and the property has been sitting bare for the past 1.5 years perhaps until they can figure out what to do with it.

Here is an image of the two sites. Even though Google Earth still shows the main Telus building, it has been leveled since 2015, but the small strip mall-like buildings at the corner of the property remain.

[Sheba]

Originally Posted by towerseeker101

Wow! This is exciting. I live relatively close by to Saputo and was wondering if they'd ever move. Perfect location with a large adjacent empty piece of land (former Telus office, now demolished but the land is sitting empty). Sperling station has a bus loop that services 144 SFU/Metrotown, 110 Brentwood/Lougheed, and 134 Lake City/Brentwood. It'll be disappointing if another company buys the Dairyland site and keeps it an industrial area. Even if the land gets redeveloped, the rampant NIMBY'ism of the area will probably limit the land to townhome/low-rise duty. It's unfortunate that significant densification around Sperling Skytrain station will probably never happen.

It's not one of the four designated town centres (aka where towers live) in Burnaby so yes it will remain some variety of low rise.

What happens on the Dairyland site will depend on how it's 'future zoned'. Burnaby has been moving a lot of it's industrial to the Big Bend area and what has been happening is that as these relocations happen, then the old site becomes new residential. You can see a lot of that happening along the Expo Line between Edmonds and Royal Oak stations.

[SkytrainCar026]

This large development site is for sale in Metrotown.

Colliers International listing: http://www.collierscanada.com/20559#.WLN-u_krKUk

image from seller's website, link above.

image by me, Feb. 19 2017

image by me

[Sheba]

Originally Posted by SkytrainCar026

This large development site is for sale in Metrotown.

Colliers International listing: http://www.collierscanada.com/20559#.WLN-u_krKUk

image from seller's website, link above.

I wonder if it'll be two towers on that lot. I checked it out on google maps and combined it's a deeper lot than Metroplace is next door.

[Sheba]

Originally Posted by towerseeker101

With regards to the empty Telus property, from what I remember reading, Telus has already sold the land to a different company. There were plans to make some strip mall type thing but, honestly that seemed like a terrible idea in my opinion. Looks like nothing came out of it and the property has been sitting bare for the past 1.5 years perhaps until they can figure out what to do with it.

The satellite view hasn't been updated but the street view has. The Telus property is fenced off and the name on the sign is Matra Construction - and their website says "...in the commercial construction industry." So it's a pretty safe bet that residential won't be build there.

[towerseeker101]

Originally Posted by Sheba

The satellite view hasn't been updated but the street view has. The Telus property is fenced off and the name on the sign is Matra Construction - and their website says "...in the commercial construction industry." So it's a pretty safe bet that residential won't be build there.

I wonder what their plans are, warehouse, office, or retail.


Edit: I wonder where burnaby saw the listing for 6800 Lougheed Hwy? I can't find it anywhere. I would also assume that Saputo would need to construct a new dairy plant somewhere in the Lower Mainland before they can even think of moving.

[rickvug]

Originally Posted by SkytrainCar026

This large development site is for sale in Metrotown.

Colliers International listing: http://www.collierscanada.com/20559#.WLN-u_krKUk

I'm pretty sure that's the sign I walked by earlier today. It now has a red "Under Contract" sticker on it.

[officedweller]

Originally Posted by Sheba

It's not one of the four designated town centres (aka where towers live) in Burnaby so yes it will remain some variety of low rise.

Yeah, that's a huge site, but it's too far east of Brentwood and not quite in the LakeCity light Industrial area.

Is it safe to assume that office space was not viable if the Telus Building was demolished? or was it a tenant specific building that would be hard to adapt for general office use?

[Large Cat]

Originally Posted by Sheba

It's not one of the four designated town centres (aka where towers live) in Burnaby so yes it will remain some variety of low rise.

What happens on the Dairyland site will depend on how it's 'future zoned'. Burnaby has been moving a lot of it's industrial to the Big Bend area and what has been happening is that as these relocations happen, then the old site becomes new residential. You can see a lot of that happening along the Expo Line between Edmonds and Royal Oak stations.

Might be a good time for the city to mandate a large amount of cheap low rise construction...imagine, 500 new freehold townhouse units! Seriously.

[Large Cat]

Originally Posted by Sheba

I wonder if it'll be two towers on that lot. I checked it out on google maps and combined it's a deeper lot than Metroplace is next door.

I remember sometime back, someone said that the site just to the SE on Sussex refused to be sold, and so they couldn't make the lot as wide as Metroplace, Silver, etc. But the compensation is being able to go deep. Unfortunately it won't be as grand as gold house, but they should still be able to fit in a lot of units, and hopefully some retail.

[Sheba]

Originally Posted by Large Cat

Might be a good time for the city to mandate a large amount of cheap low rise construction...imagine, 500 new freehold townhouse units! Seriously.

There are plenty of low rise buildings (some townhouses) being built in Burnaby, not that far away from the town centres. They like to use them as a buffer between SFHs and towers.

[cornholio]

Originally Posted by officedweller

Yeah, that's a huge site, but it's too far east of Brentwood and not quite in the LakeCity light Industrial area.

Is it safe to assume that office space was not viable if the Telus Building was demolished? or was it a tenant specific building that would be hard to adapt for general office use?

I clearly remeber concept plans for the area when the Millenium line was under construction and they included high density residential (towers). Cant find it.

But this link at least shows the city has not finalized their plans for these "specific" sites (as of 2010). That should be hint enough that a major development will be considered and probably pushed for by the city. https://www.burnaby.ca/Assets/city+servi...mmunity+development/LUM+-+Bainbridge.pdf

[towerseeker101]

Originally Posted by cornholio

I clearly remeber concept plans for the area when the Millenium line was under construction and they included high density residential (towers). Cant find it.

But this link at least shows the city has not finalized their plans for these "specific" sites (as of 2010). That should be hint enough that a major development will be considered and probably pushed for by the city. https://www.burnaby.ca/Assets/city+servi...mmunity+development/LUM+-+Bainbridge.pdf

I think something similar to Holdom Station wouldn't be out of place. Maybe a couple short high rises (like Holdom) and a coffee shop/convenience store. Nothing crazy. Although, I'm quite pessimistic at this point. It might just end up as some type of townhouse complex or it may remain industrial for the foreseeable future. The interesting thing is that most of the Telus/Saputo site are surrounded by single family homes. Perhaps changing everything to residential will increase the neighboring property values, hopefully the neighboring residents agree if densification occurs.

I also found this:

"The subject property is located in the Bainbridge Urban Village Community Plan area.
The Commercial Policy Framework of the Burnaby Official Community Plan (OCP) indicates that the intersection of Lougheed Highway and Bainbridge Avenue is intended
for UrbanVillage centre commercial use."

https://eagenda.burnaby.ca/sirepub/cache/2/ib1rdzjgeewzfgwpoobxgbv0/7402272017085653388.pdf


"Urban Villages are intended to provide opportunities for non-town centre scale housing and a range of more day-to-day commercial services. Urban Villages are generally characterized by smaller scale mixed use development (in the three to four storey range)."

[VanK]

Originally Posted by towerseeker101

With regards to the empty Telus property, from what I remember reading, Telus has already sold the land to a different company.

[IMG]

It is still owned by some subsidiary of Telus. it will go to market to be sold.

[VanK]

Originally Posted by Sheba

It's not one of the four designated town centres (aka where towers live) in Burnaby so yes it will remain some variety of low rise.

I doubt that it will remain only low rise. Between the two sites (Saputo + Telus) I am fairly confident the city of burnaby will come up with a medium to high density plan with likely a mix of commercial, highrise, low rise and townhomes. it only makes sense this close to a skytrain station. This is not city of Vancouver. this is burnaby which is known to be pro-development and do things right in close range to the skytrain stations.

[SpongeG]

Does Burnaby consider Holdom Station area part of Brentwood Town Centre in the plan?

[Sheba]

Originally Posted by SpongeG

Does Burnaby consider Holdom Station area part of Brentwood Town Centre in the plan?

Yes, it's on the eastern edge: Brentwood General Land Use Map

[SpongeG]

ok thanks

[officedweller]

Milano (Solterra project) from the Brentwood Station blog
@ the south foot of Alpha Ave. near Lumina:


http://brentwoodstation.blogspot.ca/

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Proposal for 5180 Lougheed Highway (Springer & Lougheed)


http://brentwoodstation.blogspot.ca/

[SpongeG]

that looks like the kirmac location.