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Easy · #**4521** Posted **Feb 22, 2017, 1:50 AM**

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Originally Posted by Resident

I love all these people just randomly finding out about the streetcar and having strong opinions

I love all the people that don't ride public transportation yet are public transportation experts.

But whatever. That doesn't make me right and I may be proven wrong. I hope that I am. But nah. I don't think so. If anyone rides the streetcar enough they'll soon reach their own opinions.

Resident · #**4522** Posted **Feb 22, 2017, 1:15 PM**

I did a poll of DTLA residents last year:

How often do you think you would ride a streetcar if it is built along the proposed path?

64 said weekly
20 said a few times a year
17 said never
13 said daily
4 said monthly.

So 2/3rds of DTLA residents think they would ride it at a minimum of weekly. But what do they know?

Suffice · #**4523** Posted **Feb 22, 2017, 4:18 PM**

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Originally Posted by LA21st

Any route that doesn't serve the eastern section of South Park, South Broadway, Fashion District and the southern Arts District is just dumb.

That's probably true for City west as well with all that growth happening there.

What is the latest proposed route?

http://streetcar.la/project-info/route/

Jun · #**4524** Posted **Feb 22, 2017, 7:09 PM**

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Originally Posted by Resident

I did a poll of DTLA residents last year:

How often do you think you would ride a streetcar if it is built along the proposed path?

64 said weekly
20 said a few times a year
17 said never
13 said daily
4 said monthly.

So 2/3rds of DTLA residents think they would ride it at a minimum of weekly. But what do they know?

So there's only 118 dtla residents?

ChargerCarl · #**4525** Posted **Feb 22, 2017, 7:17 PM**

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Originally Posted by Resident

I did a poll of DTLA residents last year:

How often do you think you would ride a streetcar if it is built along the proposed path?

64 said weekly
20 said a few times a year
17 said never
13 said daily
4 said monthly.

So 2/3rds of DTLA residents think they would ride it at a minimum of weekly. But what do they know?

Thats nice but that doesn't make the streetcar a worthy transit investment.

BrandonJXN · #**4526** Posted **Feb 22, 2017, 7:45 PM**

It's not as if the street car can't be extended.

NativeOrange · #**4527** Posted **Feb 22, 2017, 8:10 PM**

In other news, updates on 106 projects: http://www.ladowntownnews.com/developmen...a6e00dc-f863-11e6-812c-9fb87ab40bd3.html

Car(e)-Free LA · #**4528** Posted **Feb 22, 2017, 10:17 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Resident

I did a poll of DTLA residents last year:

How often do you think you would ride a streetcar if it is built along the proposed path?

64 said weekly
20 said a few times a year
17 said never
13 said daily
4 said monthly.

So 2/3rds of DTLA residents think they would ride it at a minimum of weekly. But what do they know?

The real question is will it increase total metro ridership and/or decrease travel times for existing riders?

black_crow · #**4529** Posted **Feb 22, 2017, 10:58 PM**

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Originally Posted by Resident

I did a poll of DTLA residents last year:

How often do you think you would ride a streetcar if it is built along the proposed path?

64 said weekly
20 said a few times a year
17 said never
13 said daily
4 said monthly.

So 2/3rds of DTLA residents think they would ride it at a minimum of weekly. But what do they know?

Yes, those numbers make sense.

This Streetcar will be very successful and it is so important for Downtown.
I never thought I would see a streetcar in Downtown. Finally some big city flair for those areas.

They will finalize the streetcar financial plan Mid-2017 and start the procurement process for streetcar vehicles after that.
The goal is to start construction one year later in Mid-2018, but they are still talking about the financing part.
Jose Huizar is hoping that Metro will be willing to prioritize the streetcar, since it’s one of only a few projects that will be ready to begin construction by 2018.

So we might have everything ready in 2020. Fingers crossed..

Car(e)-Free LA · #**4530** Posted **Feb 23, 2017, 1:08 AM**

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Originally Posted by Suffice

http://streetcar.la/project-info/route/

I think this loop routing is silly because it has no context of the transit system surrounding it. However, a streetcar route like this would have a place in the larger downtown transit system: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1qvGy1c1uvs81tfsFYJiRaiUF2Os&usp=sharing

ConstructDTLA · #**4531** Posted **Feb 23, 2017, 1:38 AM**

Sidewalks open at Atelier

Atelier Tower by Hunter, on Flickr

mbb · #**4532** Posted **Feb 23, 2017, 1:46 AM**

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Originally Posted by Car(e)-Free LA

I think this loop routing is silly because it has no context of the transit system surrounding it. However, a streetcar route like this would have a place in the larger downtown transit system: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1qvGy1c1uvs81tfsFYJiRaiUF2Os&usp=sharing

Your map is password protected.

Car(e)-Free LA · #**4533** Posted **Feb 23, 2017, 2:55 AM**

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Originally Posted by mbb

Your map is password protected.

Now it isn't. https://drive.google.com/open?id=1qv...Os&usp=sharing

Illithid Dude · #**4534** Posted **Feb 23, 2017, 6:06 AM**

Atelier turned out really well. Big fan, perfect infill.

dktshb · #**4535** Posted **Feb 23, 2017, 6:22 AM**

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Originally Posted by Illithid Dude

Atelier turned out really well. Big fan, perfect infill.

It looks good during the day but I imagine the parking structure might be pretty transparent when it is lit up at night. I do like how the podium doesn't come off as too bulky.

Resident · #**4536** Posted **Feb 23, 2017, 6:39 AM**

People were making all kinds of claims that DTLA residents wouldn't ride the streetcar. Thats bullshit.

The streetcar is meant to connect the convention center to all of the main parts of DTLA. It does that. It is not meant to provide the best or fastest transportation options to replace the subway or the bus. It is meant to be an economic stimulator for the entire DTLA and make it all more accessible. Just because it doesn't fit your specific need or want doesn't mean it won't be successful.

cargocultpants · #**4537** Posted **Feb 23, 2017, 4:15 PM**

Hopefully the ridership is good, and the streetcar will be extended down Sunset towards Echo Park, or maybe further east towards the Arts District. Absent that, the route is basically 100% a parallel of the regional connector, which will not only be faster, but probably open sooner. (For better or worse, that didn't seem to be the case when the streetcar was being lobbied for.) It's also pretty dang duplicative of the red/purple line, and the silver line.