Metro Vancouver Road Infrastructure Discussion

[dharper]

So if the speed limit is lowered to 30kph, does this mean that all bikes will stay below the limit as well? After all it will be done for their safety.
But I am sure any enforcement will be for automobiles only.

[jollyburger]

Originally Posted by dharper

So if the speed limit is lowered to 30kph, does this mean that all bikes will stay below the limit as well? After all it will be done for their safety.
But I am sure any enforcement will be for automobiles only.

Who cares about speeding, lets start with stop signs and riding on sidewalks.

[GlassCity]

Originally Posted by MIPS

The amount of distaste I have for greater vancouver cyclists makes me astoundingly bitter and biased. I do apologize for the insensitivity.

It sucks that if we were ever to meet you'd have distaste for me simply because of how I get around.

Originally Posted by jollyburger

But how do you enforce with signs when you're in a residential area versus roads clearly designed to handle 50km/h? I guess they don't have resources but they should stick photo radar on side streets to handle idiots that want to speed through residential side streets at $200 a pop.

Usually there are traffic calming measures installed as well, but for municipalities who may not have the funds of Vancouver lowering speedlimits is a decent start.

Originally Posted by dharper

So if the speed limit is lowered to 30kph, does this mean that all bikes will stay below the limit as well? After all it will be done for their safety.
But I am sure any enforcement will be for automobiles only.

It isn't easy to get above 30 kilometres per hour on a bike, and those that can do it are not cycling on local neighbourhood bikeways.

Originally Posted by jollyburger

Who cares about speeding, lets start with stop signs and riding on sidewalks.

Proper cycling infrastructure can take care of these problems.

I agree with the stop sign thing, everybody needs to be more careful around them. Drivers could start with leaving room when passing and waiting until there isn't an oncoming car to do it too. Deal?

[Metro-One]

Originally Posted by GlassCity

It sucks that if we were ever to meet you'd have distaste for me simply because of how I get around.



Usually there are traffic calming measures installed as well, but for municipalities who may not have the funds of Vancouver lowering speedlimits is a decent start.



It isn't easy to get above 30 kilometres per hour on a bike, and those that can do it are not cycling on local neighbourhood bikeways.



Proper cycling infrastructure can take care of these problems.

I agree with the stop sign thing, everybody needs to be more careful around them. Drivers could start with leaving room when passing and waiting until there isn't an oncoming car to do it too. Deal?

I was able to reach over 80 km an hour once riding down a very long hill (this is when I was young and stupid)

Over 30km is quite easy along a few stretches of neighborhood bikeways as one heads downhill. Thinking Ontario Street heading towards downtown.

[aberdeen5698]

Originally Posted by jollyburger

But how do you enforce with signs when you're in a residential area versus roads clearly designed to handle 50km/h?

On some bike routes they've install speed bumps to slow down the cars. It seems to work quite well.

[CanSpice]

Originally Posted by jollyburger

Who cares about speeding, lets start with stop signs and riding on sidewalks.

Municipalities are allowed to override the MVA on cycling on sidewalks. For example, it's legal to cycle on most sidewalks in New Westminster. Vancouver doesn't have this bylaw however, as far as I know.

[GlassCity]

Originally Posted by Metro-One

I was able to reach over 80 km an hour once riding down a very long hill (this is when I was young and stupid)

Over 30km is quite easy along a few stretches of neighborhood bikeways as one heads downhill. Thinking Ontario Street heading towards downtown.

Yeah, I wasn't thinking about hills. I mean sure it's possible, but I still haven't seen any cyclists speeding around like that. If people are doing it for transportation and not sport, they'll usually be going at a fairly moderate speed.

By going too fast on local bikeways, you're putting yourself at danger too. And for what it's worth, I have heard of cyclists being ticketed for speeding.

[logicbomb]

Highway 1 is so congested during mornings. It took 35min to get from Brunette to Willingdon this morning, and there wasn't even an accident or stall.

Sad thing is...there is no fixing this and it will only get worse in the coming years.

[CanSpice]

Originally Posted by logicbomb

Highway 1 is so congested during mornings. It took 35min to get from Brunette to Willingdon this morning, and there wasn't even an accident or stall.

Sad thing is...there is no fixing this and it will only get worse in the coming years.

Sure there is, you just need fewer cars on the highway at that time. That can be done by encouraging businesses to time-shift workers' shifts (spread the load out throughout the morning), or by encouraging people to use transit (preferably by improving transit).

[libtard]

Is the MOT playing some sort of sick joke with the Oak St. Bridge?? How can they be so incompetent when it comes to maintaining a smooth bridge deck. Patching these holes one by one only to have them come back a day later. What an embarrassing 3rd world entry point into Vancouver

[Metro-One]

I believe that the Oak Street Brifge is Vancouver responsibility?

[MIPS]

Well if Vancouver is sensible like a few hours northeast, they are waiting for the weather to improve before applying permanent repairs, simply because in this weather the fix will pop back out again.

[VancouverOfTheFuture]

Originally Posted by Metro-One

I believe that the Oak Street Brifge is Vancouver responsibility?

no, the province.

Originally Posted by MIPS

Well if Vancouver is sensible like a few hours northeast, they are waiting for the weather to improve before applying permanent repairs, simply because in this weather the fix will pop back out again.

i know on the Oak Street Bridge they are patching the holes one-by-one because there are so many, and they are so deep. but they have also been doing large patches by scraping up maybe 10-20 feet of the deck, the width of a lane, and then repaving that. the Oak Street Bridge has always had a major pot-hole problem, even without the snowy/icy weather. its a huge mess of patches the whole way.

[libtard]

Solution: repave the whole deck

Enough of the patch work

[gillty]

Originally Posted by Metro-One

I was able to reach over 80 km an hour once riding down a very long hill (this is when I was young and stupid)

Over 30km is quite easy along a few stretches of neighborhood bikeways as one heads downhill. Thinking Ontario Street heading towards downtown.

30kph is not difficult at all considering the quality of bikes in Vancouver. As you know in Japan 30kph is difficult in a steel mamachari (without electric assists), but commuter Vancouverites tend to go a little beyond their ability in their spending habits. Any decent road bike can reach 30kph on flat.

I admit I'm not an average rider, but I can do 30kph up Ontario no problems, granted I have a specific gear ratio that makes this easier, but even as an enthusiast I am amazed at some of the 'dentist' bikes I see around everyday.

I don't think there is a culture in this city, be it cycling or driving that conveys respect for other users. Drivers and cyclists blow through marked and unmarked intersections, drivers and cyclists who don't use their lights, drives and cyclists who are constantly combating others for a second advantage or my favourite drivers and cyclists who ride or drive with headphones in both ears. It's all a sign of a general disregard for their safety and the safety of others.

[Klazu]

Originally Posted by libtard

Solution: repave the whole deck. Enough of the patch work.

Hear, hear. Oak Street is indeed its own breed and everytime I cross it, I feel sorry for my tires.

[jollyburger]

Tender is out to resurface the West bound lanes on Highway 1 from Lynn Valley to Taylor Way.

And some open house for the Lower Lynn project are coming up.

Tuesday, February 21, 2017 5:00 p.m. – 8:00 p.m.
Holiday Inn & Suites
700 Old Lillooet Road

Saturday, February 25, 2017 10:00 a.m. – 1:00 p.m.
Lynnmour Elementary School
800 Forsman Avenue

There will be further opportunities to provide input on the Highway 1 – Lower Lynn Improvements in mid-2017.

http://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/transp...ojects/highway-1-lower-lynn-improvements

[Marshal]

Originally Posted by libtard

Solution: repave the whole deck

Enough of the patch work

Hey libtard! I raise a Caol Ila to you - we agree completely! And I would say the narrowness of everything about that bridge screams out for immediate attention.

Also: construction office trailers and a pile of dirt have appeared at the 72nd/Hwy91 intersection. Looks like we might have a new freeway someday soon-ish.

[libtard]

Now that we know the next few winters are going to be similar to this one due to el nino, I wonder if the MoT will be implementing and new strategies to combat pot holes.

Oak street bridge and the tunnel are still riddled with pot holes, some big enough to swallow cars. Lots of holes have been filled in too. Very 3rd world looking. I can't help but think what out-of-towners must think of our road surfaces. At this point its embarrassing

[Marshal]

I know we get pot holes every cold freeze/thaw snap, but this time its ridiculous. They are everywhere, almost every block. I haven't seen any big ones (to swallow a car), but I don't remember it ever being this bad since I came here 20+ years ago.