Northeast False Creek | Proposed

[gillty]

Maybe its just me, but growing up in East Van and living in Japan, this school looks like a space ship compared to what I'm used to. I'm not sure how much how further you could aesthetically design a public K-12 school.

I just hope its functional and serves the students well.

[Migrant_Coconut]

New survey for the NEFC plan:

https://www.talkvancouver.com/S.aspx?s=3...so=true&a=836&as=C50Ur30rP9&fromdetect=1

In addition, there's an open house in Tinseltown (second floor) from now through Tuesday. Just in case anybody missed the first post.

Are you curious about what’s up next for the future of Northeast False Creek? Drop by the Planning Shop to learn more about the emerging directions, design concepts for the new park and amendments to the False Creek North Official Development Plan (FCNODP), which will allow for a new street network...

... City experts will be at the Pop-Up Planning Shop to answer questions on:

Thursday February 2, 5:00 pm – 800 pm
Saturday February 4, 11:00 am – 4:00 pm

Interested in a specific topic?

Come out to one of our topic specific days:

PLAY + WORK – Tuesday January 31
LIVE – Wednesday February 1
PARKS + OPEN SPACE – Friday, February 3
STREETS – Monday February 6
ARTS + CULTURE – Tuesday February 7

[christmas]

The city has selected James Corner Field Operations, the same landscape architecture firm that designed New York's renowed High Line Park, to develop the park space.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-co...ry-of-viaduct-free-park-design-1.3965326

[SpongeG]

foreigners taking away jobs lol. the high line is alright.

[Migrant_Coconut]

Don't forget that the High Line was a collab between James Corner's group, Diller Scofidio + Renfro, and Piet Oudolf.

JCFO's other work includes Cleveland Public Square, Fresh Kills, Navy Yards Central Green, and Cornell Campus... Big Empty Lawns. Hoping we get a Tongva Park or Knight Plaza instead.

[Jebby]

The High Line is overrated.

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by Jebby

The High Line is overrated.

Ditto for any "amazing city space" underneath bridges/highways/etc.

[Aroundtheworld]

Originally Posted by Jebby

The High Line is overrated.

I respect your opinion. It all depends on your expectations. I've been on it and I think it provides an interesting experience and perspective. In my opinion, it's a nice repurposing that enhances the area it is in.

Overrated is an interesting term. It's basically saying 'it's good, but not as good as other people say it is' which is why I don't think it means much.

[jlousa]

I think there is some truth to the high line being overrated. It occurs quite often with items that are more popular with tourists then they end up being with locals. Ask Parisians about the Eiffel Tower and a common response is it's overrated. People in Sydney say the same about the Opera house. That's not to say those items aren't a boon to the city, but isn't ultimately better to create something that is underrated but loved by the locals.

[officedweller]

Nice pic of the school at Gordon Price's instagram:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BQZvqxjA5kj/?taken-by=pricetags

[Vin]

Funny that we are talking about the High Line when ours won't even be close, meaning, there won't be a park on an old viaduct because ours will be gone! So why bring in the landscape architect with a famous NY design that has no relevance to ours to design our park? Geez...

This really reminds of the boondoggle when our minister got the transit automated ticketing designer of the London Oyster card to design ours only because he visited London, resulting in an over-blown budget. Or that the mayor liked what Scandinavian cities were doing with the bike lanes. Monkey see, monkey do I have to say.

[SpongeG]

I liked the high line I am glad I saw it, but it seemed to be 99% tourists walking on it. There were some cool spots to it, but I didn't bother to see it on my second trip to NYC

[Migrant_Coconut]

Let's hope the Parks Board - or whoever's in charge of the future elevated walkway - properly integrates it into the bike/sidewalk network. That'll guarantee locals as repeat users.

[mcminsen]

Crosstown Elementary School.



Feb.14 '17, my pics

[officedweller]

Thanks!
The east side is a showstopper!
Reminds me of an amped up version of the Dal Grauer Substation.

[SFUVancouver]

That turned out great!

Appreciate the photo update, McMinsen.

[officedweller]

Got an e-mail with links to the open house boards

http://list.vancouver.ca/t/242630/198160/3886/30/

Here are some excerpts.
The rest is the usual touchy feely stuff.

Good to see that the City recognizes the significance of the BC Place Northern Lights display and wants to preserve views towards it.
Hopefully the City will also recognize that it should not allow residential units to face it either, because of complaints (as proposed by Westbank at the Central Heat Distribution site).


http://list.vancouver.ca/t/242630/198160/3886/30/


http://list.vancouver.ca/t/242630/198160/3886/30/


http://list.vancouver.ca/t/242630/198160/3886/30/

[WarrenC12]

Thanks for posting!

Some random things I noticed:

1. Number of hotel rooms in Metro Vancouver down ~2k since 2010/2011? What is going on there? No wonder Airbnb is going crazy.

2. 42% of units are 2 bedroom in NEFC today? I would have guessed a lot lower. Especially the condos around International Village.

3. Rewnewable City Strategy is a big part of the planning, of course. I wonder if this will include another NEU like SEFC has. Could there be an opportunity to work with the steam plant?

4. Looks like Pacific will still have a big centre median, future streetcar ROW I assume.

5. Pacific Blvd will be 2 way on the SE side of BC Place? It will be interesting to see how they work that into the downtown side of Cambie, what happens to the existing 1 way around the NW side, etc.

6. Georgia Plaza has the potential to be a really cool spot.

7. Not much detail on the park, I guess we'll see when the design comes back.

[Prometheus]

Originally Posted by WarrenC12

6. Georgia Plaza has the potential to be a really cool spot.

The potential for an urban plaza is being drastically diminished by this plan, which actually proposes eliminating a huge swath of existing land in favour of creating more sea (which is great if you are a barnacle) instead of using it to create the best possible and most dynamic public space for humans. What is left, if they actually implement this asinine idea, is a substantially reduced space jammed up against this council's planned Pacific Boulevard super road.

It is also disappointing (but not surprising at all) to see this council double-down on its small-town, anti-urban, "naturalized" shoreline philosophy in the heart of the city, instead of continuing Vancouver's illustrious history of building a proper, classical seawall that has hitherto created an elegant and refined point of contact between sea and city, between shore and civilization.

[officedweller]

Originally Posted by WarrenC12

Thanks for posting!

Some random things I noticed:

...
2. 42% of units are 2 bedroom in NEFC today? I would have guessed a lot lower. Especially the condos around International Village.

Cooper's Park area is all high end so bigger units.
Older towers at International Village are also bigger units.
Waterworks, Spectrum and the Max would have smaller units.

3. Rewnewable City Strategy is a big part of the planning, of course. I wonder if this will include another NEU like SEFC has. Could there be an opportunity to work with the steam plant?

The Central Heat plant on Beatty (which heats downtown) is to be relocated to the False Creek Flats - so they'd tie-in to that pipe.

5. Pacific Blvd will be 2 way on the SE side of BC Place? It will be interesting to see how they work that into the downtown side of Cambie, what happens to the existing 1 way around the NW side, etc.

Expo Blvd is staying the same (one-way westbound).
It'll just branch off of the Pacific Blvd. super-road west of Abbott.