YEG - Edmonton International Airport Part III - Page 293

240glt · #**5841** Posted **Feb 8, 2017, 2:24 AM**

I'd also disagree that the drive from Edmonton to Jasper is in any way nice at all. It's dreary, boring and long. I drive it to BC all the time, and for me the stretch from Edmonton Hinton is the absolute worst part of the 8 hour trip

If you are flying into Calgary and planning to visit Jasper you're much better off taking the parkway

noodlenoodle · #**5842** Posted **Feb 8, 2017, 2:40 PM**

^ Amen.

When the wife & I toured Alberta last summer for our honeymoon I made sure the Jasper-Edmonton leg was the last & that we had something exciting to do in Edmonton to offset the terribleness of the drive. The trip up the Parkway was one of my wife's favourite experiences along the way. Hearing her oooh & ahhh as we rounded a bend was magical & made me appreciate the mountains all over again like when I was a kid.

Edson is an armpit crossed with a speed trap, dressed up like a town. Hinton smells. The only more boring & soul sucking of a drive for Edmontonians is the one to Calgary on the QE2.

(full route was Edmonton - Drumheller - Calgary - Banff - Lake Louise - Jasper - Edmonton)

240glt · #**5843** Posted **Feb 8, 2017, 4:38 PM**

I actually prefer the drive to Calgary over the drive to Hinton. But that could be because I drove a large portion of it 3 times a week for years, I could probably drive it in my sleep

EDM753Fan · #**5844** Posted **Feb 10, 2017, 1:12 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by noodlenoodle

Edson is an armpit crossed with a speed trap, dressed up like a town.)

HAHA I like your description. Edson truly is a hole. I don't mind Hinton though, the views from there are nice. QEII isn't too bad either.... better than Edmonton - Lloydminster. Now THAT is lame.....

GreenSPACE · #**5845** Posted **Feb 10, 2017, 9:22 PM**

New Air Canada livery. Me likey.

https://www.aircanada.com/ca/en/aco/home/about/media/new-livery.html#/

MacLac · #**5846** Posted **Feb 10, 2017, 10:58 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by noodlenoodle

^ Amen.

When the wife & I toured Alberta last summer for our honeymoon I made sure the Jasper-Edmonton leg was the last & that we had something exciting to do in Edmonton to offset the terribleness of the drive. The trip up the Parkway was one of my wife's favourite experiences along the way. Hearing her oooh & ahhh as we rounded a bend was magical & made me appreciate the mountains all over again like when I was a kid.

Edson is an armpit crossed with a speed trap, dressed up like a town. Hinton smells. The only more boring & soul sucking of a drive for Edmontonians is the one to Calgary on the QE2.

(full route was Edmonton - Drumheller - Calgary - Banff - Lake Louise - Jasper - Edmonton)

You got get out more. Ever taken 95 between Vegas and Reno? Or the 10 between El Paso and San Anton? Those drives will kill you.......

cyeg66 · #**5847** Posted **Feb 11, 2017, 5:48 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by noodlenoodle

Edson is an armpit crossed with a speed trap, dressed up like a town. Hinton smells. The only more boring & soul sucking of a drive for Edmontonians is the one to Calgary on the QE2.

Yes, don't get me started on Edson's speed trap record. If I didn't know any better, I'd say that's the (—)town's primary source of revenue. What a feckin' joke. And agreed with the latter part of your statement. I can't think of a more mind numbing drive than that down to YYC....

LO 044 · #**5848** Posted **Feb 11, 2017, 8:00 PM**

^I once had the pleasure of driving from Saskatoon to Regina. When i looked at the map, i saw that the roadway was twinned so i imagined it would be similar to driving Edmonton to Calgary with a decent amount of overpasses and lots of traffic. None of that. It looked like 1/3 the traffic of the YEG-YYC drive with hardly any turnoffs or anything to stimulate your mind. I think i fell asleep 3 times on the journey.

adam-machiavelli · #**5849** Posted **Feb 12, 2017, 6:08 PM**

How do you people think this will affect US-bound passenger levels?

http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/politics/pre-clearance-border-canada-us-1.3976123

EdmTrekker · #**5850** Posted **Feb 12, 2017, 11:52 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by adam-machiavelli

How do you people think this will affect US-bound passenger levels?

http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/politics/pre-clearance-border-canada-us-1.3976123

I am unaware of where Canada has its officers in an Airport in the USA to Preclear passengers to Canada. This was one statement in the article. I believe in reciprocity and Canada should also have Pre-Clearance at key major US airports and all other flights go to Canada Customs as an international flight.

Coldrsx · #**5851** Posted **Feb 13, 2017, 12:52 AM**

Came across this today while walking in the Quarters. I miss those free chocolate bars and real silverware.

https://twitter.com/IanOyeg

MalcolmTucker · #**5852** Posted **Feb 13, 2017, 7:13 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by EdmTrekker

I am unaware of where Canada has its officers in an Airport in the USA to Preclear passengers to Canada. This was one statement in the article. I believe in reciprocity and Canada should also have Pre-Clearance at key major US airports and all other flights go to Canada Customs as an international flight.

Landing into a domestic terminal hub, and leaving from the same lets one have sub 60 minute transfers in the USA though. Not sure adding complexity and needing dedicated swing gates would be an advantage at all.

Cage · #**5853** Posted **Feb 13, 2017, 8:35 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by adam-machiavelli

How do you people think this will affect US-bound passenger levels?

http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/politics/pre-clearance-border-canada-us-1.3976123

Bill C-23 will have no appreciable impact on US Bound pax levels.

I have completed many work visas; everything from a simple B-1 business visa, to a moderate TN Visa, to a complex L-1B and H-1B work visa.

When I was getting the complex work visas, I was always assured that if the interview went south, I could end the interview at any time by withdrawing my application and walking out of USCBP area.

Many people have figured out that it is easiest to obtain entry into the USA through Canadian preclearance airports because applicants can always withdraw without penalty or reprisal. Additionally, new entrants can continually adjust their applicant templates by using the free withdrawal provisions. Its harder to game the system on US soil because of the threat of detention.

Down the street from my house there is a bed and breakfast that processes 5-10 Indian and Pakistani H-1B applicants per month. Each applicant does their interview at YYC. If they fail, they return to the house and try again later.

Bill C-23 removes the ability to game/manipulate the USCBP system.

Quote:

Originally Posted by EdmTrekker

I am unaware of where Canada has its officers in an Airport in the USA to Preclear passengers to Canada. This was one statement in the article.

CBSA has permanent and temporary officers across the globe. I know there are permanent offices in HKG, PEK, LHR, FRA, etc. These officers do not preclear pax however they do question documentation and ask pax questions on foreign soil.

Its no stretch of the imagination that CBSA would do similar operations in the USA if they were allowed to.

YEGman · #**5854** Posted **Feb 13, 2017, 3:00 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by LO 044

^I once had the pleasure of driving from Saskatoon to Regina. When i looked at the map, i saw that the roadway was twinned so i imagined it would be similar to driving Edmonton to Calgary with a decent amount of overpasses and lots of traffic. None of that. It looked like 1/3 the traffic of the YEG-YYC drive with hardly any turnoffs or anything to stimulate your mind. I think i fell asleep 3 times on the journey.

Try driving between Winnipeg and Thunder Bay a few times. After a while it all becomes a blur of rocks, trees and streams making the drives that have been described above much more enjoyable.

Rocket252 · #**5855** Posted **Feb 13, 2017, 3:35 PM**

^ The roads are good, the country is beautiful and you don't get mugged or carjacked like in some other countries.

Stop bitching.

McBoo · #**5856** Posted **Feb 13, 2017, 6:07 PM**

Summer 2015 - drove the family out to Vancouver then let them fly home.

Me? Okanagan via Hwy 3 to buy some wine and then home 2-lane all the way. Hwy 2A north from Red Deer, my, how refreshing!

Rocket252 · #**5857** Posted **Feb 13, 2017, 7:50 PM**

Would have been nice but not realistic in WestJet's world right now.

Cage · #**5858** Posted **Feb 15, 2017, 12:17 AM**

It is being reported on airwhiners.net that AMS is approaching its limit for number of flights per annum. Consequently the KLM VP of Network Planning has advised that KLM will be reducing seasonal frequencies to allow for the airline to grow.

Accordingly some facts I have been able to independently verify.
- The annual flight limit is 500,000 flights per annum. This limit is for all services, not just KLM.
- Capacity limits will continue until atleast 2020. Limits beyond 2020 is TBD.
- KLM has all ready ruled out starting up a complementary hub at Einhoven or Rotterdam (this was LH solution to capacity limits at FRA).

I'm NOT saying that YEG-AMS will be cut, but rather any future expectations for the route will have to be examined using the AMS noise restriction of 500k flights per annum.

EdmTrekker · #**5859** Posted **Feb 15, 2017, 2:04 AM**

"Elbers accused Schiphol of being too generous with bonuses and discounts to attract new airlines such as Easyjet, Ryanair and Gulf state companies. He now wants new discussions with locals and the government about allowing more flights at Schiphol. Junior transport minister Sharon Dijksma has already said the current ceiling is ‘not sacrosanct,’ the AD said.

Cage, don't be a chicken little...the sky is NOT falling.

Read more at DutchNews.nl: KLM boss slams Schiphol for hampering the airline’s growth http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2017/01/klm-boss-slams-schiphol-for-hampering-the-airlines-growth"

BretttheRiderFan · #**5860** Posted **Feb 15, 2017, 5:41 AM**

I'm from Grande Prairie and am used to spending four hours on Highway 43.

The QE2, Hwy1, 16, etc is like going to Disneyland by comparison.