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Old Posted Feb 4, 2017, 2:25 AM
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I am so fucking excited to see this thing rise. Might be my favorite tower built in NYC since 1WTC.
     
     
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One Vander, One Vandy . .
not sure which affectionate nickname to call it . .
but it's certainly way way up at the top of the list . .
in terms of being an impressive new NYC skyline changer . .
of the highest quality . .

I only wish the base had a more nuanced, more grounded look . .
that blunt, block-wide, angled slash-line, separating most of the tower
oddly floating above it, . . and the transparent, "see Grand Central" glass
below that single, overly-wide, horizontally-angled, vicious slash-line . .
too severely wounds One Vanderbilt's own base-design integrity . .
and the importance of the tower above . .

No question, that a huge gesture in deference to the great train station . .
at the tower's South-Eastern corner at the base, should've been made . .
but a less unresolved, less disfiguring solution could've been arrived at . .

but overall, One Vandy is still a Big Winner . .
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Wow...great to see the core already taking form.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 5, 2017, 6:07 PM
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^ Yes, I am so excited for this right now.
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I've said it before but I'll say it again: of all of the supertalls under construction in New York right now, this is quite possibly the best of the bunch.
     
     
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Wow...great to see the core already taking form.
I get a feeling 1 Van will overtake 1 CP at the end of this year or next year if they keep that pace.
     
     
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AS that core takes shape, a look at what will blossom around it...











I think we've also been lucky we haven't had any major snowstorms so far. Things are moving along at a steady pace.


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I looked back several pages and this was the only photo I could find showing them drilling for rock tendons. Is it just an extremely fast process that we missed, or does the core not require an extensive tendon system? I can't imagine how they're already pouring the core. Insane pace.
     
     
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^ It is moving pretty fast, especially when you consider the demolition that had to take place.
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Establish a New Supertall as a Timeless New York Icon

In 2020, One Vanderbilt will rise in the New York City skyline. The 1,401-foot tall office tower will command the highest commercial price-per-square-foot in New York City.
Its central Manhattan location adjacent to Grand Central Terminal, stunning views and design, and high-tech infrastructure will create an unprecedented offering for an anchor
tenant. But with over 20M square feet of new Manhattan office space entering the market in 2021, CO OP needed to establish One Vanderbilt as a once-in-a-lifetime offering.

One Vanderbilt is transformative. It will bring sunlight and a pedestrian plaza to the Midtown streetscape. It will decongest subway and Metro North traffic with underground
passageways and subway access connected to Grand Central. But, in a noisy market crowded with new construction, true innovation—no matter how impactful—is hard to
recognize. So CO OP created a classic New York brand that firmly places One Vanderbilt in the lineage of the city’s great, iconic skyscrapers.


















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Designing One Vanderbilt: The architects of KPF discuss the incredible 1401-foot undertaking


FEBRUARY 3, 2017
BY DIANE PHAM & ONDEL HYLTON


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KPF has become the leading builder of supertalls around the globe and now has two 1,000-plus-foot-tall structures underway in New York. On a scale of 1 to 10, with 10 being the most challenging, where does One Vanderbilt fall in terms of difficulty. What are some of the challenges posed by this particular site and by the city?

Andrew Cleary, Technical Director: Definitely a 10, but not due to technical reasons alone. The technical complexity of designing a supertall like One Vanderbilt is undeniable, especially when faced with the need to fit and coordinate twice the amount of buildable square footage into an already very constrained site. However, it was the Entitlement and Approval process that One Vanderbilt initially faced that proved one of the project’s hurdles. The path to final approval straddled two administrations, coordinated diverse criteria required by a multitude of municipal agencies, and was subject to the review of seemingly countless public and semi-public stakeholders. KPF’s challenge was to navigate the complex procedural process by maintaining design flexibility and simultaneously preserving the basic principals of the design concept. Although the process wasn’t always straightforward, the result is a singularly elegant design that will successfully join Manhattan’s skyline.

How did One Vanderbilt’s position right next to Grand Central influence the tower’s design?

Jamie von Klemperer, President of KPF and Design Partner: One Vanderbilt reinterprets the dynamic ramps of Grand Central’s internal section as a soaring composition of diagonals that culminate into a prismatic sky garden of observation decks. We designed the tower to be clad in a series of glazed terra cotta spandrels and these are meant to recall the Guastavino tiles within the terminal. The design reinterprets the detail of that great structure using a modern eye.

Do you think One Vanderbilt could become the future standard of high-rise design in New York City? Especially in the way the building carves out public spaces at its top and bottom and supplements the network of infrastructure around it?

Darina Zlateva, Senior Designer: We should say that SL Green is an incredibly forward-looking developer that believes in and is committed to the betterment of East Midtown. Marc Holliday, SL Green’s CEO, recognized the importance of the site to the district early on and did not shy away from the responsibility of developing there. As part of the special permit for a FAR 30 tower, SL Green is putting $220 million towards transit oriented improvements in and around Grand Central; this is the largest private contribution of its kind in the New York City’s history. The amount will fund platform and stair upgrades on the 4/5/6 subway line, a direct connection to the Shuttle, a new connection to East Side Access, a Transit Hall on Vanderbilt, and the execution of a pedestrianized Vanderbilt Plaza, among other improvements.

The formal qualities of the building were developed under the auspice of Amanda Burden. As Planning Commissioner, she underscored the importance of the public realm in ensuring the health of our city and its citizens. To be considered for a special permit the design of One Vanderbilt had to demonstrate “superior design.” This charge remained in the DNA of the building—even after the initial rejection of the zoning amendment—and you can see it in the sloping volumes that allow light and air down to the street, the pulling back at the base to allow a clear view of Grand Central’s cornice, the use of terra cotta over curtain wall, and the design of a new transit hall which corresponds in finish with the rest of the building.

At the heart of One Vanderbilt is a belief in an architecture that is for both development and public good. By this standard, it’s certainly something all great buildings should aspire to!

A decade ago, KPF designed CIT’s new headquarters, a building just one block west of the One Vanderbilt site. That building was thought to be cutting edge at the time. What major advancements in terms of the design, engineering, and construction of commercial high-rises have emerged since then? What innovations are being integrated into One Vanderbilt?

Andrew Cleary, Technical Director: Although both buildings reflect a similar, measured approach to urban design, the difference of scale between the two buildings—One Vanderbilt at 1.7 million square feet and 1,401 feet tall versus 505 5th Avenue at 250,000 square feet and 400 feet tall—required our team to develop an entirely distinctive approach to the whole process. We had to create a unique set of custom design “tools” and working methodologies that allowed us to meet often stringent approvals and construction milestones while simultaneously allowing us to be creative and flexible within the design.

From the outset, the team leveraged the parametric capabilities of several design modeling platforms that allowed us to shape an elegant composition of tapered volumes while at the same time calculating the distribution of shifting floor areas, varying floor heights, and viable leasing options. As a result, the subsequent design development phases overlapped significantly with technical coordination and the procurement schedules for vendors and consultants.

For example, the team worked with the structural and MEP trades to develop parametric models in an effort to reduce construction conflicts and schedule delays; The height of the building ensured that this was no small task. As it rises to its height of 1,401 feet, the tower’s steel frame is laterally braced back to the core by complex steel truss work intricately woven through various MEP equipment spread across a series of double height mechanical levels. The team also conducted aerodynamic wind tunnel tests to analyze the pressure distribution of wind on the building’s cladding and structural systems. This informed the design criteria for a 500-ton tuned mass damper that will be installed at the top of the tower to reduce building movement caused by high winds at such lofty heights.

In short, while One Vanderbilt is a much different building typology than 505 Fifth Avenue, the design aspirations of both buildings are united by a common pursuit of thoughtful and responsible urban design.

We have noticed many new and retrofitted New York City commercial buildings are providing more clerestories, outdoor terraces, and recreational spaces for tenants. What do you think is driving the change? How and where are these spaces integrated into One Vanderbilt?

Darina Zlateva, Senior Designer: The retrofitting of these old buildings emblematic of the changing nature of how people work. Companies like WeWork have revolutionized what it means to work in an office. At the same time, more people are living and working in metropolitan areas. For corporations, recruiting the best talent goes hand in hand with the employee workplace experience. We wanted to redefine and elevate the workplace model in Midtown Manhattan with One Vanderbilt.

For a client, the tower is designed to offer incredibly diverse leasing opportunities. The tapered form allows a range of floor plates, from massive 40,000-square-foot high-density floors at the base to 20,000-square-foot boutique floors at the top. All of the floors are column free with floor-to-ceiling windows. Another distinguishing feature of the tower is the additional range of floor-to-floor heights. There are four typical heights ranging from 14.5 feet to 18 feet, and a handful of floors soar up to 20 feet. These heights, particularly with floor-to-ceiling glass, open the spaces to the city and bring natural light deep into the center of the building.

We incorporated outdoor terraces throughout the tower. On the third floor, a landscaped terrace overlooking Vanderbilt Plaza is coupled with a 30,000-sqaure-foot tenant-only amenity floor that includes a state-of-the-art auditorium, a 30-seat boardroom, travel showers, and hotel-style social lounges.

Any predictions on what the future NY skyscrapers will look like and new features they will offer?

Jeffrey Kenoff, Design Director: New York’s skyline is likely to change more in these next eight years than it did in the 80 years after the Empire State Building was completed. With newly modified FARs, public-private partnerships, the East Side Access opening and continued urban population growth, it’s not hard to imagine an amplification in the role and the significance of supertalls in Manhattan and especially Midtown.

The biggest changes we’ve seen, and hopefully will continue to support as a profession, include an increase in program diversity, elevated public and private park terraces, and an overarching goal to improve city infrastructure and public spaces with each project sustainably. These extend beyond the site to benefit the entire city at multiple levels. The city grid has proven to be an amazingly friendly model for supertalls as it ties single developments with the urban grain while giving individual sites the parameters they need.

Lastly, and possibly most exciting, are the unforeseen changes which are a bit harder to predict. New technologies in energy, transportation, and building systems will play an expressive role in all future towers and ultimately allow for taller, smarter, and more connected skylines. My bet is on a super sky bridge in the city’s extreme future.


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What a monster in that last picture.
     
     
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In the site it shows that it is a 1500ft tower i am so happy can t wait for that
     
     
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In the site it shows that it is a 1500ft tower i am so happy can t wait for that
1,401 feet is already confirmed
     
     
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1,401 feet is already confirmed
and 1500ft can this be confirmed ???
     
     
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and 1500ft can this be confirmed ???
That's not how it works. 1401 feet is the confirmed height. As in that is the specific height, not the minimum height.
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Its what on the permits faridnyc, which is 1,401 ft. Can't list the height of something and not include it in the permits unless they want legal trouble and big fines. Another indication of the height is via the FAA.

Now, unless its being designed and we hear news of an amendment, but even than, until the paperwork is filed, and an appeal for an amendment to the original height, this will be 1,401 ft. In the case where this gets a height boost, it will reflect on the DOB permit. But thus far, its still at 1,401 ft per the filings. There's a lot of bs that has to go through before something gets a height extension while its u/c.
     
     
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That's not how it works. 1401 feet is the confirmed height. As in that is the specific height, not the minimum height.

That guy posted pretty much the same thing 3 times on the previous page or 2. Numerous explanations don't seem to help. Building documents with DOB haven't been updated, and with no graphics giving us specific heights, current figures have been for the 1,401 ft height, the old figures just pop up from time to time.
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That guy posted pretty much the same thing 3 times on the previous page or 2. Numerous explanations don't seem to help. Building documents with DOB haven't been updated, and with no graphics giving us specific heights, current figures have been for the 1,401 ft height, the old figures just pop up from time to time.
It's 1501 feet. Trust me. I talked to a homeless man in GCT this morning. He told me his cat was having lunch with Donald Trump last week, and Trump himself is signing an executive order requiring it. Apparently, cat is a very skilled negotiator.
     
     
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