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Old Posted Feb 1, 2017, 11:30 PM
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Sure Harrisburg has issues but Philly has some as well. You always defend the way the city runs matters in EVERY situation. There's room for improvement on both sides. I don't know why it's so hard for the two sides to realize they should really be on the SAME side.
Both have their problems for sure. As a long time Philadelphian however it's hard not to notice how much better the city government is becoming. Whereas the state government has been trending the other way. And for all the frustrating cronyism and and limited provincial thinking that continues to plague our city government, it just doesn't compare to outright stupidity of state government. As summers pointed out, Philadelphia is the economic engine of this state and the outright disdain it shown by so many in PA legislature not only reeks of racism but it actively hurts themselves in rural PA because success in philadelphia benefits the entire state.
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Both have their problems for sure. As a long time Philadelphian however it's hard not to notice how much better the city government is becoming. Whereas the state government has been trending the other way. And for all the frustrating cronyism and and limited provincial thinking that continues to plague our city government, it just doesn't compare to outright stupidity of state government. As summers pointed out, Philadelphia is the economic engine of this state and the outright disdain it shown by so many in PA legislature not only reeks of racism but it actively hurts themselves in rural PA because success in philadelphia benefits the entire state.
I work for the city so I am extremely biased... but this is basically how I see things as well. The city's been trending up in terms of governance, the state... not so much.

Rob Dubow is basically a wizard, though. God have mercy on us all if he ever leaves the city.
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Old Posted Feb 2, 2017, 2:28 AM
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Awesome Aerial Video

Watch in 1080P. Pulled this screen shot from it:



https://vimeo.com/201982339
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Awesome Aerial Video

Watch in 1080P. Pulled this screen shot from it:

[IMGX]https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16266018_1534765343217611_3679636429719912333_n.jpg?oh=23ddc54f11487d1609dc4b019a23bcfd&oe=5914E6A3[/IMG]

[urlX]https://vimeo.com/201982339[/url]
Why do so many of these great videos have such crappy/nerve numbing music - observe how I made certain not to REPEAT the video in the Reference.
Here are 2 more a little easier on the ears, unless you're a cRapper:
https://vimeo.com/137203743
https://vimeo.com/200290324
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Old Posted Feb 2, 2017, 1:19 PM
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Both have their problems for sure. As a long time Philadelphian however it's hard not to notice how much better the city government is becoming. Whereas the state government has been trending the other way. And for all the frustrating cronyism and and limited provincial thinking that continues to plague our city government, it just doesn't compare to outright stupidity of state government. As summers pointed out, Philadelphia is the economic engine of this state and the outright disdain it shown by so many in PA legislature not only reeks of racism but it actively hurts themselves in rural PA because success in philadelphia benefits the entire state.
yes and you have people on here suggesting that any decision made or not made has some connection to a payoff or corruption when there was ZERO such scandal during Nutter's term and Philly has aggressive pay to play rules that the state lacks. You can donate however much you want to state politicians and Harrisburg has made no attempts to clean up the rules.
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Old Posted Feb 2, 2017, 1:50 PM
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yes and you have people on here suggesting that any decision made or not made has some connection to a payoff or corruption when there was ZERO such scandal during Nutter's term and Philly has aggressive pay to play rules that the state lacks. You can donate however much you want to state politicians and Harrisburg has made no attempts to clean up the rules.
Haha Philly politicians still find ways. But what you said is largely my point, there has been so much effort to stamp out that kind of corruption, new regulations, new transparency efforts.

Today it seems that for most Philly pols, many bad decisions are not made not for money but for power (which is not to say Philly politicians NEVER enrich themselves, but that issue is on serious decline). Decisions are frequently made with far too much weight placed on a small proportion of the Philadelphia population in mind, rather than the greater benefit of the city in whole. Far too often it is still common for council members to oppose a project that would be great for the city and the tax base for largely petty and irrelevant reasons. But those reasons are the ones that are near and dear to the people they depend on reelecting them. It's one thing to stand for your constituents, it's another to make decisions that put your reelect-ability above the interests of the common good even for many of your own constituents who are less politically active.

So Philly still has a ways to go and ending Councilmanic Prerogative would go along way in shaping Philadelphia for the better going forward. But I totally understand why you feel the need to strongly rebut those who continually make posts that disparage the city government and portray it as totally inept and corrupt. To see such great strides of progress, not only in terms of standards and ethics but even in the make up of our government itself and the types of more progressive, intelligent, economically engaged minds that are being elected; and to see the progress go largely ignored by many people is frustrating. It's like you have a child that regularly got D's and F's, who has worked hard and now regularly gets C's and B's and sometimes even the odd A and yet some people just continue to relentlessly criticize him and fail to acknowledge progress.

Rome wasn't built in a day. The City Government is far from perfect. But the negativity here regarding that government is largely misplaced. Looking back on the past 30-40 years, if you're not feeling more optimistic about Philadelphia and its government then you simply haven't been paying attention and your views are largely not based in reality. There's still more work to be done, but the trend has been steadily building toward a brighter future for many years now.

None of this can be said about Harrisburg. Which wasn't great to begin with and is arguably at its nadir with no signs of reversing course. To ignore the impact of Harrisburg and how their decisions hamper Philadelphia's ability to be the best city it can be is to miss a lot of the picture.
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Old Posted Feb 2, 2017, 4:35 PM
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Which , witch is which ......

I'm a bit confused about " alternative facts " . Wikipedia states this ....
Philadelphia Phillies MLB Baseball Citizens Bank Park 29,924

The 29924 says " attendance " whereas CBP states 43647 as " capasity " .

I rely on wiki for some information but since I am from the Henson Galaxy ,
why confuse me with alternative facts ......
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Gonzo: Wikipedia lists CBP capacity as 43,651. A little extra research found that the Phillies average attendance was 29,924 in 2014. I think you're living in an alternate reality. Maybe you just need glasses.
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Gonzo: Wikipedia lists CBP capacity as 43,651. A little extra research found that the Phillies average attendance was 29,924 in 2014. I think you're living in an alternate reality. Maybe you just need glasses.
I don't know the exact numbers, but capacity would include standing room tickets, not just seats correct? Still fairly certain it seats more than 30,000, but about to go into a meeting and don't have time to look it up.
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Old Posted Feb 2, 2017, 6:17 PM
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Gonzo: Wikipedia lists CBP capacity as 43,651. A little extra research found that the Phillies average attendance was 29,924 in 2014. I think you're living in an alternate reality. Maybe you just need glasses.


:break comp:
Ok , well I just found this , but I'm not sure this is correct either ...... Ballpark Stats

First regular-season game: April 12, 2004
Capacity: 43,500 fixed seats, 500 permitted for General Admission

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Old Posted Feb 2, 2017, 7:17 PM
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I'm a bit confused about " alternative facts " . Wikipedia states this ....
Philadelphia Phillies MLB Baseball Citizens Bank Park 29,924

The 29924 says " attendance " whereas CBP states 43647 as " capasity " .

I rely on wiki for some information but since I am from the Henson Galaxy ,
why confuse me with alternative facts ......
Que?
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Old Posted Feb 2, 2017, 9:26 PM
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Fun fact: From Dec. 2015 to Dec. 2016, the city added 13.7k (nonfarm) jobs. Emphasis that this is just the city itself, not the entire metro. By sector, growth looked like this:

Education and Health Services: +6.5k (229.2k)
Leisure and Hospitality: +5.9k (73.1k)
Professional and Business Services: +1.4k (93.2k)
Trade, Transportation, and Utilities: +1k (98.4k)
Financial Activities: +0.4k (43.4k)
Mining, Logging, and Construction: +0.1k (11.5k)
Government: -0.2k (102.7k)
Other Services: -0.4k (27.6k)
Manufacturing: -0.4k (20.7k)
Information: -0.6k (11.4k)

Source: https://www.bls.gov/regions/mid-atlantic/data/xg-tables/ro3fx9532.htm

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Old Posted Feb 2, 2017, 9:33 PM
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To follow up on the last post, job growth for the entire metropolitan area (Philadelphia-Camden-Wilmington) was +41.3k (2920.5k) from Dec. 2015 to Dec. 2016.

Professional and Business Services: +11.8k (471.1k)
Education and Health Services: +11.7k (628.5k)
Leisure and Hospitality: +7.3k (255.8k)
Trade, Transportation, and Utilities: +5.8k (545.4k)
Financial Activities: +2.3k (212.7k)
Manufacturing: +1.8k (183.8k)
Mining, Logging, and Construction: +1.2k (113.8k)
Other Services: +0.6k (119.3k)
Government: -0.1k (344.3k)
Information: -1.1k (45.8k)

So overall, 1/3 of all net new jobs in the region are in Philadelphia (13.7 / 41.3 = 0.332)

https://www.bls.gov/regions/mid-atlantic/data/xg-tables/ro3fx9527.htm

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Old Posted Feb 2, 2017, 10:22 PM
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Ok , well I just found this , but I'm not sure this is correct either ...... Ballpark Stats

First regular-season game: April 12, 2004
Capacity: 43,500 fixed seats, 500 permitted for General Admission
The past couple years they have not been selling out. This is the reason for the recently low attendance. There were times they had over 100% attendance when they sold more than 500 standing room tickets. I believe 2009 -2012.

http://www.espn.com/mlb/attendance/_/year/2012
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Old Posted Feb 3, 2017, 2:19 AM
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Fun fact: From Dec. 2015 to Dec. 2016, the city added 13.7k (nonfarm) jobs. Emphasis that this is just the city itself, not the entire metro. By sector, growth looked like this:

Education and Health Services: +6.5k (229.2k)
Leisure and Hospitality: +5.9k (73.1k)
Professional and Business Services: +1.4k (93.2k)
Trade, Transportation, and Utilities: +1k (98.4k)
Financial Activities: +0.4k (43.4k)
Mining, Logging, and Construction: +0.1k (11.5k)
Government: -0.2k (102.7k)
Other Services: -0.4k (27.6k)
Manufacturing: -0.4k (20.7k)
Information: -0.6k (11.4k)

Source: https://www.bls.gov/regions/mid-atlantic/data/xg-tables/ro3fx9532.htm

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To follow up on the last post, job growth for the entire metropolitan area (Philadelphia-Camden-Wilmington) was +41.3k (2920.5k) from Dec. 2015 to Dec. 2016.

Professional and Business Services: +11.8k (471.1k)
Education and Health Services: +11.7k (628.5k)
Leisure and Hospitality: +7.3k (255.8k)
Trade, Transportation, and Utilities: +5.8k (545.4k)
Financial Activities: +2.3k (212.7k)
Manufacturing: +1.8k (183.8k)
Mining, Logging, and Construction: +1.2k (113.8k)
Other Services: +0.6k (119.3k)
Government: -0.1k (344.3k)
Information: -1.1k (45.8k)

So overall, 1/3 of all net new jobs in the region are in Philadelphia (13.7 / 41.3 = 0.332)

https://www.bls.gov/regions/mid-atlantic/data/xg-tables/ro3fx9527.htm
These are awesome numbers for the city and the region. Hopefully Harrisburg doesn't — us over, and we can get some better business tax structures in the city to speed up job growth.
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Old Posted Feb 3, 2017, 2:24 AM
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The Walnut st. canyon taken from the 18th floor of the Penn Medicine building at 8th and Walnut.
**The building has amazing views. The office wait rooms have floor to ceiling windows mostly north and east, but this view west ain't bad

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The Walnut st. canyon taken from the 18th floor of the Penn Medicine building at 8th and Walnut.
**The building has amazing views. The office wait rooms have floor to ceiling windows mostly north and east, but this view west ain't bad

Great view! What is that white antenna looking structure a little distance away?
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Great view! What is that white antenna looking structure a little distance away?
It extends up from the top of the Wills Eye Hospital builiding.
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The Walnut st. canyon taken from the 18th floor of the Penn Medicine building at 8th and Walnut.
**The building has amazing views. The office wait rooms have floor to ceiling windows mostly north and east, but this view west ain't bad
This is an awesome photo! Thank you for sharing
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