[Burnaby] The Amazing Brentwood | 15 Towers | 186m | 56 flrs | U/C & Proposed

[SFUVancouver]

Originally Posted by SpongeG

i know that just getting some discussion going thats not so negative nancy in here.

Personally i think one destination with a cluster of high end shops would be a great thing to seesomewhere in greater van, and brentwood would be a great spot.

currently its very spread out, some in park royal some in oakridge some downtown some in richmond centre etc.

We have a beautiful structure going up at brentwood. Why not hope for something nice instead of nail salons, fro yo and dollarama

I think that this reflects the current geographic and socioeconomic realities of the region. High-end retail is located near high net-worth households and in the CBD of the region, where most of the hotel inventory for the region, and virtually all of its high-end product, is located, not to mention corporate offices, convention centre, and cruise ship terminal.

Now, a high-end retail street/mall south of the Fraser is something that I think is inevitable.

[LeftCoaster]

Originally Posted by SpongeG

i know that just getting some discussion going thats not so negative nancy in here.

Personally i think one destination with a cluster of high end shops would be a great thing to seesomewhere in greater van, and brentwood would be a great spot.

currently its very spread out, some in park royal some in oakridge some downtown some in richmond centre etc.

We have a beautiful structure going up at brentwood. Why not hope for something nice instead of nail salons, fro yo and dollarama

No one is being a negative Nancy, we are being realists.

You said Vancouver is doing nothing to attract lux retail when the exact opposite is true. I can't think of many cities in the entire western hemisphere that have seen more lux growth in the last two years than Vancouver. And it's not spread out it's ALL in Vancouver. No one else has the types of shops downtown has, and in the near future no one else will.

Also, there's a middle ground for Brentwood to be. Somewhere between the Neiman Marcus' of the world and nail salons.

Brentwood can get brands like Coach, Zara and maybe even Boss, but not the likes of Prada, Versace etc. At least not any time in the future.

[SpongeG]

no i don't see it getting very high end either i just listed the shops off at the one mall in bellevue. Bellevue square is more attainable for brentwood.

But I can see second branches of what is downtown in the suburbs not too far off.

[GilmoreStation]

Uniqlo is also rumored to open in Metrotown
http://www.vancitybuzz.com/2015/02/uniqlo-rumoured-open-major-store-metrotown/

The Amazing Brentwood is going to be a disaster, still no confirmed tenants

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by GilmoreStation

Uniqlo is also rumored to open in Metrotown
http://www.vancitybuzz.com/2015/02/uniqlo-rumoured-open-major-store-metrotown/

The Amazing Brentwood is going to be a disaster, still no confirmed tenants

When is the anticipated opening date of Brentwood? I assume there will be a few phases?

[HelloKitty]

Originally Posted by SpongeG

i know that just getting some discussion going thats not so negative nancy in here.

(Or debbie downer).. Strongly agree.

Originally Posted by SpongeG

Personally i think one destination with a cluster of high end shops would be a great thing to seesomewhere in greater van, and brentwood would be a great spot.

currently its very spread out, some in park royal some in oakridge some downtown some in richmond centre etc.

We have a beautiful structure going up at brentwood. Why not hope for something nice instead of nail salons, fro yo and dollarama

Yes.. such as the west end home stores you previously mentioned too. It's a pain to drive down there or park even. Edmonton has or had Pottery Barn, Williams Sonoma, and J Crew, and Lacoste under one roof... I was hoping for the same here in the Lower Mainland, under one area or roof that's not in downtown or in the west end. Save me some time and stress..

I thought Park Royal had these stores or would but I believe they don't have these stores.. (correct me if am wrong). I thought there'd be a Saks here, but it's Saks Off Fifth instead at Park Royal.

And it'd be nice if Amazing Brentwood would have these plus Massimo Dutti. Zara is making a killing in Metrotown. If there's a Massimo Dutti or J Crew in the same area I'd rather spend the funds there for better quality and durable clothes but there's none. So the other fast fashion retailers get all the fun (and funds...).

Anyway.. just my two cents' here.

[HelloKitty]

Originally Posted by GilmoreStation

Uniqlo is also rumored to open in Metrotown
http://www.vancitybuzz.com/2015/02/uniqlo-rumoured-open-major-store-metrotown/

The Amazing Brentwood is going to be a disaster, still no confirmed tenants

Finally. Am glad they're opening in Burnaby. Lol! If not in Brentwood, Metrotown's fine as long as I don't have to go downtown. The sooner the better. Amazing Brentwood retail won't open 'til fall 2018 supposedly.

[Spr0ckets]

Originally Posted by GilmoreStation

Uniqlo is also rumored to open in Metrotown
http://www.vancitybuzz.com/2015/02/uniqlo-rumoured-open-major-store-metrotown/

The Amazing Brentwood is going to be a disaster, still no confirmed tenants

That article is from TWO years ago.

And the rumored location they were supposed to open at (in the basement level) has since been occupied by a different brand (Accent @Home) which, itself has also since moved from there to the old Zellers/Target location on the ground level (or at least part of it).

It's vacant again, so it's possible that they're preparing the space for a move in, but who knows.

Metrotown mall currently has an unusually high number of vacant store locations boarded up all over the mall which suggests that retail isn't doing so hot right now.

[HelloKitty]

Originally Posted by Spr0ckets

That article is from TWO years ago.

And the rumored location they were supposed to open at (in the basement level) has since been occupied by a different brand (Accent @Home) which, itself has also since moved from there to the old Zellers/Target location on the ground level (or at least part of it).

It's vacant again, so it's possible that they're preparing the space for a move in, but who knows.

Metrotown mall currently has an unusually high number of vacant store locations boarded up all over the mall which suggests that retail isn't doing so hot right now.

Yes. Canadian retail isn't doing as well as was expected... http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on...utos-building-materials/article33681977/.

[officedweller]

Originally Posted by mcminsen

Here is a picture of the "Seamless Connection to Skytrain", on the right. This is looking north from the station concourse. You can also see it at about the 27 second mark of the video.

Dec.3 '17, my pic

Thanks!

If the old Metrotown bridge is an indication
- this one is too narrow, but they also want to keep light filtering down to the lower level, so the narrow walkway is understandable.

WRT Hudson's Bay / Saks - just a guess - but remember that Shape Properties owns both Lougheed Town Centre and Brentwood Town Centre.
The Lougheed plans do not include Hudson's Bay (we don't know if that's HBC's choice or not).
From news reports, HBC was not cooperative in relocating its store within a redeveloped Oakridge (but that would be a much more profitable store than Lougheed).
It's conceivable that if HBC needed an incentive to close the Lougheed store for redevelopment (and there may not be if it's a poorly performing store),
there could be a trade-off negotiation with Shape with lease rates / locations between Lougheed and Brentwood.
So who knows?

[Jebby]

Originally Posted by officedweller

Thanks!

If the old Metrotown bridge is an indication
- this one is too narrow, but they also want to keep light filtering down to the lower level, so the narrow walkway is understandable.

Could have gone with a glass floor for the bridge. That would have been pretty cool.

[Caliplanner1]

Originally Posted by Jebby

Could have gone with a glass floor for the bridge. That would have been pretty cool.

The real (legal?) problem would be women traversing the walkway's glass floor in skirts/dresses.......

[LeftCoaster]

Frosted glass works just fine for most other glass floor applications.

The real issue at Brentwood would be that it is outdoors and maintenance/cleaning would be a hassle. Would definitely be a cool compromise though.

[Caliplanner1]

Originally Posted by LeftCoaster

Frosted glass works just fine for most other glass floor applications.

The real issue at Brentwood would be that it is outdoors and maintenance/cleaning would be a hassle. Would definitely be a cool compromise though.

I was thinking (incorrectly) that a frosted glass floor walkway would not yield the degree of natural lighting or sunlight etc. anticipated/desired (in Jebby's proposal). I also wonder how slippery such a (glass) floor would be (especially when it rains)....?

[SpongeG]

whatever happens i imagine brentwood will be better off than lougheed town centre or the city of lougheed, i don't see how this area, i live a few minutes away on the burquitlam side, can see 300 stores added. Its a pretty working class area. Maybe open some outlet stores in it to serve the NE area and maple ridge/pitt meadows.

I think though metrotown can be the mall for the masses as it is and brentwood can position itself to be more upscale.

[Jebby]

Originally Posted by LeftCoaster

Frosted glass works just fine for most other glass floor applications.

The real issue at Brentwood would be that it is outdoors and maintenance/cleaning would be a hassle. Would definitely be a cool compromise though.

It could be semi-enclosed and have LED lights integrated into the floor to allow more light to pass through to the lower level.

[SpongeG]

has anyone seen any of the developments going on in LA? some of them remind me of brentwood.

the source OC video

westfield century city video video 2

westfield promenade video

[Marshal]

Had a brief drive-by (stopped offsite for 10 minutes) of Westfield Century City in November with an architect friend who did some work on it last year. I was surprised how small it felt driving by, though I think that was from my own expectations. I thought it seemed smaller than Brentwood until i thought about it; they're close. Plus, I remember the place before (Century Square) and walking through it back then, it seemed larger.

Regardless, I am sure it will be a success, but with a critical eye: the design has a coolness factor but is also a bit sterile and does not organize itself through a wide enough range of scales. Brentwood is aiming to replicate a level of complexity and place that Westfield does not. The lack of residential + the lack of towers also makes this a much more traditional complex.

The video shots over the food court area are what most resembles what is being done here, but its not quite the same. In LA, a court that is traditionally inside here, can easily be without a roof. But that doesn't change its functional, spatial, or circulatory contribution to the public realm. To do that, you need to design it as a component that works with others (walkways, passages) and is layered with multiple uses so that the location becomes central in more than just one way (a centre for rest and food).

[SpongeG]

i saw another development render for somewhere down there, I forget which one, they had something called a food alley, which kinda looked like a street you might find tucked away in tokyo with smaller eating places, kind of a neat idea for a mall.

I think its the move away from a traditional layout and merging gathering public spaces with thought out details and interest as opposed to just focussing on the shops, malls seem to be really changing and offering more functioning elements and interesting spaces

[Caliplanner1]

Originally Posted by Jebby

It could be semi-enclosed and have LED lights integrated into the floor to allow more light to pass through to the lower level.

Hopefully the walkway's roof will be glass/transparent to allow maximum natural (sun) lighting (with LED to augment at night or on dark/rainy days).