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Old Posted Jan 4, 2017, 6:53 PM
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Icy sidewalks are an impediment to people of all ages and abilities. I'm in strong favour of strict bylaw enforcement to get people to clear their sidewalks, and I'm able-bodied.

Roll your eyes all you like, but when people can't leave their houses because they can't walk on the sidewalks, that's a problem.
I totally agree. But as a pedestrian I've found a way to deal - I bought a set of strap-on ice cleats from Mountain Equipment Co-op. They're incredible, it's like night and day. I've just walked back home from dropping my car off for service and I trod over several very long stretches of icy sidewalk and road with no worries at all. Highly recommended.
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I totally agree. But as a pedestrian I've found a way to deal - I bought a set of strap-on ice cleats from Mountain Equipment Co-op. They're incredible, it's like night and day. I've just walked back home from dropping my car off for service and I trod over several very long stretches of icy sidewalk and road with no worries at all. Highly recommended.
Great. Now how does that help someone who needs a walker? Or a wheelchair? How are seniors and disabled people even supposed to get to MEC in the first place?
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Great. Now how does that help someone who needs a walker? Or a wheelchair? How are seniors and disabled people even supposed to get to MEC in the first place?
How about a walker with studded pads? Everyone with hardwood floors would love that.
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Old Posted Jan 5, 2017, 3:13 AM
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Great. Now how does that help someone who needs a walker? Or a wheelchair? How are seniors and disabled people even supposed to get to MEC in the first place?
As I said, I totally agree that uncleared sidewalks are a problem. Yes, they should be cleared so that people of all ages and abilities can get out and about.

In the meantime, ice cleats are a great way for people who can get out and about to avoid a fall that may end up putting them into the category of people who are so frail they can't get to MEC. Better safe than sorry.
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I totally agree. But as a pedestrian I've found a way to deal - I bought a set of strap-on ice cleats from Mountain Equipment Co-op. They're incredible, it's like night and day. I've just walked back home from dropping my car off for service and I trod over several very long stretches of icy sidewalk and road with no worries at all. Highly recommended.
I've got a set of these (or something similar) in my car's winter emergency kit. I also pack my snow boots, but mark my words, the one time I have to swerve out of the way of an out of control oncoming car and end up down an icy embankment, I'll be wearing street shoes with negative traction.
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I completely forgot I had a pair of those ice cleats.
Dug them out for the next time I need to trudge over ice.
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So do warnings extend multiple years or are they seasonal?
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With it being only 4 months until the Provincial election, we should start to see many transportation projects started, or finished, to "scratch the voters backs".

Connector between Hwy 17 and Golden Ears Way
216th Interchange on Hwy 1
Bridge to replace George Massey Tunnel
Highway 91 Interchange at 72nd Avenue

Any others?
Originally posted in wrong thread.
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There's also the Brunette Interchange project, but I'd be shocked if that got started before the election.
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Originally posted in wrong thread.
I don't think Massey is going to be awarded before the election. I could have my dates wrong?
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Great. Now how does that help someone who needs a walker? Or a wheelchair? How are seniors and disabled people even supposed to get to MEC in the first place?
Canadian Tire has them although crappy ones, and I got my current pair at Costco which have been pretty amazing. I'm sure other retailers will have them.
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I don't think Massey is going to be awarded before the election. I could have my dates wrong?
The only thing that could happen would be pre-loading...

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Massey Tunnel preliminary works go to tender this week

CKNW News Staff
Posted: January 12, 2017 02:13 pm

Two contracts for preliminary construction work on the George Massey Tunnel Replacement project go to tender this week.

The contracts are for site prep to improve ground conditions for future lane widening.

Both early works contracts will operate under an environmental management plan to make sure it falls in line with the plan’s environment obligations.

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http://www.cknw.com/2017/01/12/massey-tunnel-preliminary-works-go-to-tender-this-week/
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Ah, that makes more sense. The main contract definitely will not be signed by the election!
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Ah, that makes more sense. The main contract definitely will not be signed by the election!
Even if it gets signed before the election the new government (if elected) can terminate it and pay whatever fine for terminating the contract is.
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Even if it gets signed before the election the new government (if elected) can terminate it and pay whatever fine for terminating the contract is.
It would be interesting to hear more than crickets from the NDP on this one.
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It would be interesting to hear more than crickets from the NDP on this one.
A lot more people would be mad if they cancelled the bridge vs building it so they aren't going to say anything.
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Old Posted Jan 18, 2017, 7:28 PM
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A lot more people would be mad if they cancelled the bridge vs building it so they aren't going to say anything.
Depends on who and what ridings are impacted... they could propose twinning the tunnel for example.
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Wonder what the hell the following will be all about tomorrow... first thing that springs to my mind is the introduction of a "zipper" lane/machine across the AFB during rush hours (sheer speculation and conjecture on my part):



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Province exploring idea of adding another lane to Alex Fraser Bridge

Vancouver, BC, Canada / News Talk 980 CKNW | Vancouver's News. Vancouver's Talk
Shane Woodford
Posted: June 08, 2016 11:40 am

Major construction work could begin soon on the Alex Fraser Bridge to try and address a chronic traffic congestion issue.

“We are exploring the possible implementation of a counterflow system to the Alex Fraser Bridge, similar to what is in place with George Massey and the Lions Gate. That could include actually adding a seventh lane to the Alex Fraser Bridge by removing the curbs and the sidewalks, we think there is room for a seventh lane there, potentially.”

Transportation Minister Todd Stone says the bridge could use a rush hour counter flow lane and he has ordered his staff to take a serious look.


Stone says by removing the bridge sidewalks and road shoulders a seventh lane could be created.

Reporter: Theoretically work could begin in the fall maybe?

Stone: “I would hope that work would begin much sooner than the fall, to be frank. I think that, in particular, when you look at just the bridge itself, would probably provide the most promise in terms of alleviating the congestion that exists on the bridge today.”

Stone says a decision on whether or not to do the work will be made in a few weeks.

He admits it will be a traffic headache but adds it will be worth it for drivers.
http://www.cknw.com/2016/06/08/190403/

Problem is, as has been discussed herein before, the foregoing does not make any technical/logical sense with the existing, 12-foot lane, freeway-standard cross-section. But a zipper lane does, such as the $30 million movable barrier installed on SF's Golden Gate Bridge back in January, 2015:

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Replacement of Moray Channel and Dinsmore Bridges to YVR, high priority lanes on Russ Baker Way, and extension of Templeton Street proposed or being considered as part of the YVR 2037 Master Plan. I'm guessing that Templeton upgrades would also include a free flow interchange at Grant McConachie Way. I read it somewhere several months ago but can't seem to find it now.

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Old Posted Jan 19, 2017, 6:26 PM
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If they remove sidewalks from the Alex Fraser Bridge, as Minister Stone suggested, then how will cyclists get across? My cyclist friends say it's relatively heavily used to get across the Fraser.

Edit: Actually the sidewalks are on the outside of the cable stays, so how would removing sidewalks help at all?

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